Lewis Capaldi Grasps for a Lifeline While Eating Spicy Wings | Hot Ones

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Am I Am I Am I visibly crying? Yeah, yeah.

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But, it looks like cinematic and kind of beautiful, actually. everybody. No one knows anything. You your own person.

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Hey, what's going on, everybody?

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From First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans, and you're watching Hot Ones.

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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

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And today, we're joined by Lewis Capaldi.

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He's a Grammy-nominated, multi-platinum singer-songwriter who just released his long-awaited sophomore album.

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It's called Broken by Desire to Be Heavenly Sent.

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The latest single is Wish You the Best.

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Check out the video and bring a box of tissues.

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Lewis Capaldi, welcome to the show. Hello. I'm nervous.

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Well, there's no need to be nervous. No need to be nervous.

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How are you around spicy food before we get started?

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You know, I think you're the first Scottish palate that we put to the test on this show. Yes.

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First Scottish person on here. Feels good.

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Um I'm feel like I'm going to let a nation down here. But, yeah, I'm good.

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I've already taken a what I feel will be my last sort of um bearable [ __ ] today. Did you do it here? I've done it here. Oh, amazing. Yeah, I shat here.

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Who else is I mean, I was just thinking maybe Jake Gyllenhaal's taking a dump in here. This is beautiful. Nice one. Here we go. Mhm. It's delightful. Delightful little shots. We're on the way.

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Sometimes people come out and take a bite. Ooh.

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Sorry, I was just I was just enjoy I feel like we were on a date there, and I was just enjoying. We are on a date.

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Just We can think about it that way. Yeah, of course. You just took some more. I know, I know.

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That was kind of just an impulse. Okay.

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I'm not trying to show off over here. No, it's fine.

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I'm I don't think I'll eat all of them all the time.

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But while they're in this sort of comfortable zone. Yeah. We'll take big swings. There we go. There we go. Gorgeous.

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So, as I know you're aware, there's a current TikTok trend of people in tears warning others against watching your new music video for Wish You the Best as it's a one-way ticket to crying your face off. RIP to John and Willow.

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What's been your reaction to the reaction?

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Because from your duets, it would seem like you get some sort of sick pleasure out of watching your fans cry. Yeah, I enjoy it.

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I think what's nice is I've always wanted to be viral on TikTok.

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I've always wanted to be viral on TikTok.

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I never thought I would get there by traumatizing children.

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But if that's paying the bills, then so be it.

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But yeah, it's good, man.

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I'm I'm just like I like to see people suffering is what I'm trying to say.

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And and this is Well, me too. Me too, you know.

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Yeah, I often should I say I'm not to talk about [ __ ] too much.

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I often think about your [ __ ] Shawn. You do?

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Yeah, I often I often think that poor thing. Put it through so much.

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And I wonder like I was thinking maybe like it's like the the Battle of the Somme down there, but I think actually it must be pristine.

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Actually, it's closer to pristine than the former. Yes. You know what I mean? I'm battle-tested. Upkeep.

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Yeah, you're like sort of taking care of your [ __ ] in a way that no one else does.

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And uh yeah, but it's I just often I say a prayer every time I go to watch one of these.

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Well, thank you for praying for me, Lewis. Yeah, right. for praying for me. Yeah, it's all you want.

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Are you ready to move on here to sauce number two? I [ __ ] guess so.

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So, this next one we've got the curry verde here in the two spot. Oh, it's nice. A little zesty. Mhm.

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I'm a DJ Khaled like tapped out.

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By the way, I'm going to be a [ __ ] mess by end of this time. Let it fly.

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Does anyone just So, what happens then do you just not eat the wings and talk? Yeah, kind of.

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That's when it's from like my perspective.

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I got to think I'll fly a little bit. You know what I mean?

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Cuz somebody's like disengaging from the thing, but then you have to like That's That's when the format of the show becomes a challenge for the host of the show. Yeah, yeah.

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And then it's just the whole thing is Yeah, you just like have chucked DJ Khaled the [ __ ] out of here.

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And you should have said, "Listen, you.

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If you don't eat your food [ __ ] all Yeah. Yeah, no, that's mental.

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Freeze pretty wild sort of thing. But that's lovely. I love that. Where did it go?

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So, I understand that you began performing at 11 years old doing pubs throughout the UK where you'd often hide in the bathroom before the show to avoid getting kicked out for being underage.

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What was the significance of the Grange Bar in Foldhouse at that time in your young career? Wow, [ __ ] hell.

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You need to do one of these with Adwa you know that? I know.

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Be like the [ __ ] the the king.

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Like the two kings at it, you know what I mean?

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But um yeah, no, the Grange was good.

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We did some like covers gigs in there.

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My friend Adam Warrington who plays guitar now for Young Bloods which is quite interesting.

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But no one gave a [ __ ] No one gave a [ __ ] about me and Adam playing.

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They hate They actually disliked us playing gigs. Yeah?

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Did you ever have to deal with hecklers in a pub environment like that? Yeah, all the time.

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Like "When's Danny to be home early for school?"

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And [ __ ] just "You look like a piece of shit."

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Uh cuz we were coming around and try and sing new songs like the weed writing and stuff and I think people just wanted to dance which I have no I totally understand, but um "Who's laughing now?" "Fuck you." But it was great.

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It was great fun the Grange.

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It used to be owned by my friend David who um David Barron.

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They They They They were great.

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They used to always let us in.

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They don't own the pub now so I can say this, but we were underage and we were able to come in and like they would let us play. Do you know what I mean?

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So, um yeah, great stuff. Well, shout out to them. Shout out to them.

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The police are coming to your house now, [ __ ] So far this is delightful little sofa. Yeah.

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Is it you're lowering me in? Yeah, right.

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And we're shifting gears on you.

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It's coming at you from all angles over here.

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You're teasing me a little bit. That's what it is. Right. Yeah.

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We don't want you to be comfortable over here. No, I like it. That's lovely that.

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So I love your quote about songwriting where you dispelled the myth that the best records come the easiest saying, "The best songs come from me sitting at a piano bashing my head against a brick wall for hours on end to get one good melody."

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What's the longest length of time you've ever taken to write a song from beginning to end?

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I mean there's ones I'm still not finished that I don't think I'll ever get finished.

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But like Someone You Loved was I started it in August 2018 and finished it in like September 2019.

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So you're talking No, sorry.

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That'll be around 17 to 2018.

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Took October 2017 and then finished it in like September 2018.

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Just a few months before it came out.

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So So almost like a year to write the one song.

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Yeah, I should have said a year. Not bad.

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But um songwriting for me is like people say it's like catharsis and all the rest of it.

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It's a It's a beautiful thing.

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But catharsis isn't always comfortable or enjoyable. Do you know what I mean? Right.

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I think um I spend most of my time hating myself when I'm writing songs.

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Or um And yeah, and I I I think that's fine. I think that's okay. That's my process.

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Um but um yeah, I just um I subject the the general public to the pain of listening to to my music.

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So I feel like I should have to suffer as well. A lot of magic. Mhm. More of a barbecue. Not too much of a kick.

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But it's usually a kick a kick spot.

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I feel like this is the first sauce that takes a a jump that's more than just one step, you know? But look at you. Cleaning the wing. Cleaning the wing. [ __ ] you, ED SHEERAN.

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IS THE BEST pizza you've ever had still found at Tony's Fish Bar in West Lothian, or do you have a new number one slice from your world travels? Um yeah, Tony's good.

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Also mad hearing you say that. Tony's is great. Um shout out Tony's.

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Although actually, [ __ ] him.

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Because I would I would shout at those bastards out.

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I live on the same street as them and when I was when I was growing up I never once did I get a free pie slung my way. So [ __ ] that.

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These guys, if you're listening Berto Don't Where the [ __ ] was my free slices?

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They do a good garlic mayonnaise, I'll say that.

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But it's great pizza, but also I've said [ __ ] you're in the same boat as Ed Sheeran. Tony's Fish Bar.

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I'm [ __ ] decking on these You're decking on them.

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You're decking on them, baby.

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I have a thing to show you.

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I'm assuming um imagine he's got my [ __ ] out, that'd be amazing. But No, go ahead. We met. Mhm.

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I just Do you have Do you have this on a thing? No. No, let's chat about it. We met in a nightclub. We did. What was the nightclub?

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Where did you get It was called Delilah. Shout out Delilah.

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Lot of ass shaking going on in that.

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I saw just titties right when I walked in.

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I didn't know know that was a thing.

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I didn't know you could do that.

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And I walked in and I was like This place is not my scene.

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I feel like we were both maybe a little bit fish out of water. Yeah, yeah. I don't know.

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Maybe Maybe you Maybe that's your way.

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Maybe you don't walk into clubs and seeing titties.

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Well, I was like when I walked in, I was like I saw peripherally just hands, you know? And like excitement.

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So then I look over and I was like, "Oh, do I have some friends here?"

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And I look over and I see you and Nile.

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Me and Nile holding and I was so excited to see Shawn Evans. I was [ __ ] buzzing.

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Like I [ __ ] love this show. Love you. You're my taste. I love you back. Oh. You're my taste.

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I get excited when I see you.

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But I said to you at the time, you probably don't know me. I was with Scottie. Sean didn't know me. He does his research. Of course he did. Good man.

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And you were like I was like, "One day I hope to come on your show."

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And you were like, "I'm sure you will."

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And I said, "But just in case I don't, can you record an intro for me on my phone?" And I've still got it. You do? Yeah. Can I play it for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, do it.

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All right, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, all right. So, can I put it here? Yeah, yeah.

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Not that there's Not that anything's here.

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There's nothing right here. Um all right, okay.

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What's going on everybody?

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From First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans, and you're watching Hot Ones.

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This is the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

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And today we're joined by Lewis Capaldi.

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And you can hear me in the BACK GOING, "AH!" [ __ ] I WAS SO BUZZING.

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BUT YEAH, HUGE DAY FOR ME.

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Uh and sent it over to my pals.

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Coolest thing that's ever happened to me. And here we [ __ ] are. Here we [ __ ] are.

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Halfway through the wings. Full circle. Full circle. Beautiful. Okay. Here we go.

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That's quite a lot about my tongue. Mhm. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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What's happening a little bit? It's getting real.

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It's getting a little bit nippy.

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Maybe I'll slow down on this wing. Doesn't look like it. Oh. That's good. There we go. We can handle that.

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I'm getting so scared cuz I know what's coming.

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So, I've heard you talk about being surprised by the success of your song Bruises.

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What do you learn as an artist when your expectations for a record are exceeded? I'm getting light.

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So, I'm salivating and crying slightly now. Okay.

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[ __ ] you asked me a question. Mhm. I did. I did.

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you [ __ ] Okay, it's hot now. [ __ ] you. Careful around the eyes. Careful around the eyes. Yeah, okay, sorry. [ __ ] Jenna Ortega.

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She can [ __ ] handle a wing. Question Yeah, yeah. was a one. Thank you.

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You just learn that you don't know anything because it's like no one has the answer because it just shows you that you don't know what a hit is.

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Anytime I put a song out thinking this is going to be a smash, it's been a [ __ ] complete abject [ __ ] failure. Right.

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Um So yeah, you know nothing. And labels know nothing.

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And like no one knows anything. Not to No offense.

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But But no one knows anything.

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It's just like Yeah, we just kind of I'm not I'm I'm I'm visibly crying. Yeah, yeah.

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But it looks like cinematic and kind of beautiful actually. everybody. No one knows anything. You're your own person. Oh. Oh, [ __ ] That's hot. No, I know.

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I'm kind of chilling out now though. Yeah.

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But you know the problem with this show is right right when it chills out, the next bus pulls up to the station, you know? Yeah.

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It's um It's good [ __ ] I'm not going to wipe my face.

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I want people to see what it's doing to me. the honest, the truth. Yeah. That's what I am. All right. This one looks innocent. Here we go. Cheers. Cheers. That tastes really nice. At first. Okay.

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Someone we had Someone we had your friend now Horan on the show.

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He said that your most Scottish trait is that you talk too fast for people to understand you and that he believes that you do so on purpose, especially when you're talking to Americans. Confirm or deny.

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I can confirm that sometimes.

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I've got friends from like England who can't understand me and all that.

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But sometimes I think people are just being like Oh, what are you saying? Yeah, right right.

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Americans make a a more more of an effort to understand what I'm saying. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

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Whereas English people can sometimes just be especially posh English people can just be like pricks for the sake of like you know what I mean?

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I can't understand a word you're saying.

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But I KNOW WHAT A I LOVE YOU, ENGLAND.

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Do you ever go to Celtic FC chant?

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You know, something I can have in my back pocket should I ever find myself in Celtic Park. I'll try to remember it.

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Oh, [ __ ] Oh, there's another thing here. Can I use this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all yours.

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You got the lifelines over there. Fart box. [ __ ] me, my eyes. That's heating up. Um I don't know.

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There's a really beautiful song that I call Grace.

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It's an old Irish song, but it's still the fun thing cuz it has that big connection to Ireland, but it's a It's a beautiful tune.

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As we gathered in the chapel here, down old Kilmainham Jail, I think about these last few weeks.

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Oh, my eyes are It's like I've got like a pair of sunglasses on that have been in an oven. All right, here we go. Here we go. I'm really nervous. Me, too.

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Me, Cuz I know that's one [ __ ] Yeah.

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And I can hear the editing on the the background that's going the the music getting higher. Reaching fever pitch. Here we go.

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And then I have one shot at this.

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So So imagine what I mean. It's happening. That was too much. Yeah, that was big. Oh, [ __ ] you.

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Yeah, that's a picture, isn't it?

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That's a That's a [ __ ] Yeah, that's a [ __ ] of a sauce.

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And you know, like on the other ones, they kind of start to build, you know, but it takes a while.

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This one builds so fast, and then it just doesn't stop.

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It's at the back of my mouth. Yeah.

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It's getting worse and worse and worse.

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It's like the It's the devil's ejac Oh, [ __ ] you, Sean. It's a little spinner. Yeah. I know. I know.

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Ask me a [ __ ] question. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, you know, I've been following along with the press tour, and it seems like you're holding on to your vow to stay on Tinder until the day that you die.

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What do you think is an appropriate amount of money to spend on a first date? Oh, nothing.

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Oh, [ __ ] that's good, man. That's good. The lemonade hit it.

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You You wanted to go with the citrus. Shut up. Talk. That's the show. It was a fun day.

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I've got to change the shot, don't I? Oh, [ __ ] you. I know. I know. Milk. I like milk.

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And then, Louis, this is just going to be me This is me being your buddy.

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I know that the the the liquids are helping out. Except for that.

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But, let's slow it down just a little bit cuz sometimes Okay.

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you know, when you're mixing hot sauce and liquids, the liquids can become more of a problem than the hot sauce.

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that after drinking a half a Do you know what?

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I I I let you go to a level, and then once it starts to get a little dicey, It feels like the foundation gets a little shaky, that's when I speak up. I'm easy with that. Right? On the other side of it. [ __ ] Jenna Ortega. I I imagine.

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I mean, what is going on there? What was the question?

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Appropriate amount of money to spend on a first date. [ __ ] it. Who cares, man?

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You don't have to meet them.

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You might never meet that person again. Right. Right. Right. Get in.

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Make some sweet, sweet [ __ ] love.

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And and then Who are you again?

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I feel like I'm talking about like Austin Butler, and all of a sudden I'm nominated for Oscars. I feel high. So what? That always happens. And you know what?

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The more I do this show, the easier it is for me to catch that high. Yeah.

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So now, I float like every episode around this time. It's amazing.

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Oh, that one's all right. Yeah.

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I think again, just cuz that one was so Clears everybody out the paint.

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[ __ ] me, that was good.

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You got some good content there. Always with you. Always with you.

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I told you I'd be sweating.

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So, when AI hit by a fake drink, kicked off a lot of discussion and controversy amongst record labels, streamers, and artists.

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Do you have an opinion yet on the proliferation of AI-created music? I don't know. God, that was fast. Like a second ghost. I know. Uh, I don't care. I mean, I do.

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I probably have a more thought out opinion on it.

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But right now, it's hard to really collect my thoughts.

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AI, just in case it overrules, and we become its slaves. Yeah, right. you, baby.

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Like, your worries about AI are more in the realm of like sentient, machine gun-mounted robot dogs, not necessarily to be [ __ ] by a machine at one point in my life, I feel like. Right.

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So, if they come up with a song using your voice, then who cares? Who cares, yeah. [ __ ] me. Good Good to be here.

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Thank you so much, Lewis.

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Just us dabbing on the last one.

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That's what we're doing, baby. That's what we're doing.

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This is Oh, I just blew it into my eye.

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Oh my gosh, right at the finish line. Okay, okay.

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You don't have to if you don't want to, but it looks like it's going there. Jesus.

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Oh, I thought it was going to be thicker than that. That's what she said. Hello.

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[ __ ] All right, cheers what a ride what a ride baby. This has been fun.

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And I hope to never see you ever again. I understand. Taste nice. At first. Well, [ __ ] you. I know.

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One of those and that was a lot worse.

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Yeah, but don't worry this one's got a nice long wind up, okay? Cool.

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Yeah, the bomb really [ __ ] Those are the verge of a panic attack.

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Changes the game changes the game.

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But thankfully our long overdue dinner date with the wings of death it's behind us baby and to close things out you've been open about your struggles with imposter syndrome and benefiting from the council of stars like Elton John and Ed Sheeran.

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With the heat of a million suns coursing through your veins right now, do you have any foundational advice for people that struggling with feelings of inadequacy even when their lives are seemingly otherwise going well?

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Um that is such a good question.

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And you asked it at the complete wrong time. Ask that first.

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Um but listen if you're out there and you feel inadequate, it's probably just because you are.

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Um if you feel like an imposter and you shouldn't be able to do the things you're doing, it's probably because you suck.

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If you feel like your girlfriend doesn't love you and she's going to leave you, she probably will.

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Uh you're going to die alone everybody is what I'm trying to say here. Oh, [ __ ] you.

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Um life is meaningless what I'm trying to say.

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After this I realized none of this means anything.

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And um hell is awaiting us all.

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Straight talk from Lewis Capaldi and not a dry eye in the house after that motivational speech and look at you taking on the wings of death living to tell the tale.

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Now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.

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This camera, this camera, this camera, let the people know what you have going on in your life.

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I've got an album coming out.

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As a piece of [ __ ] flaming [ __ ] to listen to it, but um please just hit buy it. I've got a mortgage now. And it's crippling.

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Um so DJ Khaled, if you're out there eat my [ __ ] Um this was fun.

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I don't know what ELSE TO SAY.

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[ __ ] ME, THAT IS YOU'VE GOT A SERIOUS GAME ON your hands here.

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I'm sorry for swearing at you.

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I was you know, I going through something. I understand completely.

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You know, that was good fun.

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Here I am feeding you wings with the bomb.

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What are you going to do? Not curse me out? Hey. Hey. Look at us. Look at us.

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Who would have thought, Louis? Who would have thought?

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God me, that was [ __ ] great. Thank you, man.

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