you put your heart on your sleeve on this record and you've told some things like you see it and you haven't held back and you're searching for a good time and I put this in writing yesterday to someone your camp as an album this is searching for a good time and it's searching for a party but there are some
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unavoidable truths that need to be dealt with yes that was such a beautiful statement that you made actually Bobby my manager read that to me and I thought it was a great way of putting it it's it's you want to have a good time but that there's some pain that you got to
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get there yet not alone here in feeling that way because people are searching for a reason to try and find some kind of space within which they can be themselves and yet this year has conspired in many ways across many many different areas pretty much every area in life to be one of the more extreme
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years to my mind that I can remember it's a very extreme year and a very high stressful time for people of all ages I think our feeling it especially with politics and with the society the way things have been moving the the chaos in America this was a lot of my inspiration on the album you know you look fabulous
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right now you know you're absolutely you know just so ready and it's like you're clearly in that frame of mind that we've seen before in various different images and designs that come from within but ultimately present you it for an error in your life this is gaga this is Joanne
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this is you now right yes but when the album when you listen to the album it's probably the first time for me that I've heard you without your makeup on throughout the whole record you know I think that the the sentiments and the stories in the album don't have any makeup on there's no filter this
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record goes right for the gut and you know vocally lyrically I am trying to tap into vibrations that make you feel like I'm giving you a giant hug in a way or giving you a release a place for you to rage or to feel healed to close your eyes and listen that's the hard part you
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sometimes you don't want to listen to a song that makes you go there you know but that's what this record is this record makes you go there but it's it's also I have to say one of the most rewarding musical experiences of my life making joy even through its toughest even through the subject matter which
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feels that edits most personal at its most observational through things that seem very rough raw right now on a global level as well as personal level it feels like it was a fun record to make it sounds like it was a fun record to me it was it was really fun to make every day was full of I would say taking
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that pain turning it into strength taking that fair turning it into joy we became the album yeah and I yeah it feels that way yeah we became and we still are I mean I can't tell you all day long mark and I back and forth on the phone calling texting me a blood pop that the whole gang you know were were
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so kind of micro focused most importantly on getting the message of the music into the world meaning to get the music to as many people as possible there was some time in between the making of the last record you know about pop and then cheek-to-cheek and then you had some space and yes we've saw you and
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we know you were busy um you know American Horror Story amazing things great achievements but the music it seemed to me needed some space and I wanted what music felt like to you before this album was made before you got you know into a headspace where you could make it
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was music in you yes well musics always in me you know every day I I hear things all the time melodies thoughts lyrics after working with Tony Bennett and you know singing classics right and spending some time to also challenge myself to sing in soprano for The Sound of Music and what I saying
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till it happens to you the song I wrote was Diane Warren at the Oscars you know it was a totally different kind of thing for me and I love that I love all different kinds of music I love diving into different genres and becoming an expert you know jazz was something I was always already very versed in but with
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Tony you know I feel that I'm I'm you know becoming more and more of a an expert in jazz masterclass you know he gave me a master class exactly I mean that it's it's the total master well for him to invest in you like that too and be able to say look I know who you are to your audience to a certain extent and
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I know how diverse and how much variation you can put into your work but focus on this with me Tony just wanted people to know that I could sing Jack exactly I mean more than if you ask him about it he'll just say she can sing Jack you have no idea that girl can sing Jack
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you know and then learning even more how to improvise even more how to be present you know being present the thing about jazz is mindfulness yeah you got to be really mindful when you work with jazz music and you should be mindful anyway period when you're making music and when
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you're performing you know every musician we're all communicating and talking but with jazz music because it's so off-the-cuff and because Tony can just change it to be whatever he wants to be whenever he decides you know you really got to be ready so what I would say is that I was in a very authentic or
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and a childlike place with music when I began this album it's like I closed my eyes and thought where was the first place I fell in love with music and I can see myself as a little girl just four years old I was for the first time I began to play piano and I would just
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sit there for hours and play play play and I would sing in my own little way and this childlike love of music this is really where I began with Joann it's amazing to think that you took yourself out of everything that you'd built throughout your life up to this point which let's be really clear has happened
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as far as the public are concerned in about eight years yeah crazy I mean I think about it and then you get to a point where by okay tens and millions of albums hundreds of millions of singles sold all these great things which look fantastic on Wikipedia but to go back to
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starting to get this record done you've got to go back to that first memory yes of course you have to erase it you got to erase all that success in a way it's like I always say when you start a record you got to take all those platinum albums off the walls you know put them in the back make room for more
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you know you can't you can't create records resting on either the laurels of your previous success or caring about that I mean at the end of the day that's not really what I'm here for I've always been obsessed with music and I enjoyed transformation transformation through music is one of the most
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beautiful gifts you learn about yourself when you write music you learn about your family learn about your friends you learn about your relationship with the world and Joanne is my middle name and it's the middle part of me and it's it's something that I was able to return to because I discovered that inner child
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and myself again that loved music and you know all the other stuff if you boil it down the truth is yeah I made all those records and it became this big thing yep but all of the stuff on Wikipedia and all the charts and all the accolades this is the this is fantastic noise you know when you think about the
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album as a body of work called Joanne already establishing it's a very personal journey for you and now you would like to try and go through that and allow us to connect with it universally as well but to do that you got to go through it yeah I had to go into the deepest pain in my life I had
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to go into the part of myself that you don't want to face you know that for the past five years it's been different for me you know I went through a lot of pain you leave yourself behind in a way because the truth is that I can always bring my past with me that little girl you know that loves music but I can
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never go back saying you know my life will never be the same what happened in the last five years and what's being the cause of that so everyone else the world is yours and yet I think people real fans probably knew deep down that there was something going on you know letting
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go of who I was before and I don't mean becoming you know Lady Gaga and leaving that behind that's not what I mean by that mean is is you know my life is different now I can't walk down the street in the same way and be me when I meet people they are not always interested in
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speaking to me about real human things like we are right now they want to know about superficial things and they want a photo or a selfie or a snapchat or an Instagram or insta snap story down whatever it is that they want you going jazz now you meet kids that have like you know yeah I did I just went jazz you
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know you got kids with like nine GoPros attached to their you know heads by myself yeah it's The Fame Monster you know in a way and I had to reckon for myself that my life would never be the way that it was and I loved being that girl that walked down the street on the Lower East Side that nobody knew I loved
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being that girl that just rolled in from Club to club and played my music and discovered new people and had a community with artists I don't and have never felt a connection to Hollywood and even though I've written about Fame and even though you see me in Hollywood my existence is a bit it's more yeah I
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guess I feel I still feel very grounded in my family I don't feel ever that I want to transition into a new type of me that's going to be you know completely open to you know being someone that adores every red carpet and wants to be at all the events you are on a lot of
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them in it and it you know you look it's a ride it's a ride when you when you get to album number two when you get to born this way right you're on the ride whether you like it or not so you may as well go for it you know straight to stadiums award ceremonies high-pressure things it's a blessing it is a total
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blessing the last thing yeah no no I mean look I mean I think most people who have been through that that tumble dry like you have will say God you know why would you ever turn your nose up at it but at the same time you come out the other side of it out of that narcissistic experience of just pure
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adrenaline your adrenaline of the world adoring you right right and then you realize that you know it will never be the way it was before and make you paranoid did you evict it yes yeah paranoia fear alcohol oh yeah alcohol drugs drugs anxiety anxiety body pain and a lot of it has to do with you
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know feeling unsafe in my own body because I leave the house and there's people touching me grabbing me yelling you know and it's but particularly you know I've been open about this before you know the assault that I experienced when I was 19 sexual assault and 19 in the industry my
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body doesn't know the difference between sometimes a normal touch and being assaulted and it's just something that's inside of me that I have to work on every day it's powerful and the truth is that Joanne and this record I looked back at you know my father's sister who we'll get into that in a minute yeah who
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I was named after in her pain and it gave me strength to go on you know life is a dog fight for a lot of people yep and you got to be a pit bull you said something recently which I really I picked up out of it I don't like to paraphrase other people's articles out of respect to journalism in the context
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but you said something it was powerful to me which was that when you start to really investigate why your father would be so upset all the time and the painful memories that he would go through having lost somebody how that made you wonder whether or not you know back in the day
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you thought you were doing something wrong oh yeah oh yeah my whole life I thought it was my fault that my father was angry and that's what I kind of meant before henceforth the desire to go out and do something magical that they can be proud of right the drive absolutely it's like my whole existence
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in some way has been to make my father proud you know I'm just an Italian girl that really wants our dad to be proud and and he is now you make a record and this is laid out here I'm gonna refer to songs an angel down yeah it appears twice for a reason yeah I wrote this song about Trayvon Martin so it was
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actually a couple years ago when he was shot and murdered and the epidemic of young african-americans being murdered in this country I was overwhelmed by the fact that people just stood around and didn't do anything about it and that the justice system continues to over and over again not
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seek justice for these families also listening having my ear to the ground of my fans young african-american women and boys who are terrified they tell me they drive in their cars and if they hear a siren there is a paranoia that rushes through their body that they freeze up that they can't
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think that this is a tremendous anxiety this is something that I care about this is something that has to stop something that we all need to heal from an angel down you know the lyrics doesn't everyone belong and the arms of the sacred why do we pretend we're wrong has our young courage faded shots were
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fired down the street by the church where we used to meet angel down angel down why do people just stand around you are 100 percent like it or not drawn into the conversation I well I I can only you know pray on that you know that my voice and the lyrics will reach people it's also a complicated thing I'm
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not an african-american woman you know I you know how do you speak about I was gonna ask you about that because by rights having a voice being an artist and being somebody who's affected by things and wanting to be able to be a part of this conversation one way or the other because to not be would feel
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strange it feels it it feels impossible right it feels impossible how can I not say something right how could I possibly make an album about twerking my and in the club it's really like I mean being honest in my mind it's like I can't reckon it it feels empty mmm it feels
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irrelevant when I go into the studio and I write I at this moment in my career I can't possibly just sit and think of what would be just fun yeah well you know because the thing is is there's a lot of fun music I mean you're looking for a good time but you can't escape the truth yeah I can't and but we all can't
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we all can't no matter how much no matter how much we want to just have fun you know the more that we mask the shame right of this anxiety worse the harder it's gonna be to heal and you know these records they are it is it is it was so not important to me just the way that it
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is for me as a songwriter at this moment in my life I absolutely cannot write anything that does not have a voice and a purpose in the universe it's like why would I have this voice why would I have this platform yeah where do the words go and what do they mean it's like they
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used to say back in the day I have you heard Lady gaga no I have it oh she's really good cool but what she's saying exactly I mean I've had that I've done that that was great I loved it I was amazing and I will sing love songs for you and for everyone for the rest of my life I'll tour until I'm 79 maybe eight maybe
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ninety like Tony yeah you know and you know I can't wait I think I'm gonna peek at 75 you know long long white gray hair sleeve tattoos do be thinking about that bass bout that bass you'll have the legendary slot on the Sunday Glastonbury yeah why not I want to be an old cello
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you know what I mean I but I'm a woman now I'm a woman and I care about the world and I care about young people and that's what I want to make there are some three very distinctive layers to this record you know from a listeners point of view and that's not to even remotely suggest that we know what's
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going on in your mind but just you know when you're taking it in one is what's going on inside the room ie like what inside the club by looking for the party looking for that moment right one is what's going outside the window yeah and actually pulling back the blinds and taking a look and being honest and the
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other one is what's going on inside the home yeah and I think there is some pain in this record that you could absolutely connect to a relationship or the end of a relationship and I want how tough debts being given you know the public announcement that you you know your marriage is breaking up and you've
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got to go make a record well engagement all right cool yeah but yeah it was a marriage you know in a way yeah and um very painful I mean who wants to see that I mean it's a hard enough when you know love isn't working out the way you want it to and they've gotta see it on the news yeah and you
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got to walk down the street and have somebody going you okay can you keep that stuff private no you can't no it's it's out thank you very cheap anything private it's done it's just that's and that's part of what I meant before when I said there's no turning back yeah yeah yeah and that's what I why I
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need Joanne yeah because she reminds me that that little girls always gonna be there that little girl at the piano that's who I am I mean even a song like perfect illusion which is you know banger I've said on the record and I just think lyrically and the whole vibe
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of it is just like taking back some control and I feel like that's where you're at it feels like you like no I'm gonna control this my way or at least try to perfect illusion is is is about yeah trying to get your bearings in a very chaotic universe whether your relationships in chaos right and you're
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wondering if any of it was real at all did I was this real did I did we really love each other was it all a perfect illusion mistaken for love did I what am I missing man how how did I know catch that because my guessing game is strong it's way too real to be wrong right and it's also you know you know I
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don't date like the same way my friends date you know I see my friends dating like on the internet and Instagram and everything everybody goes through and man is it rough I mean I see my friends going well he told me he was here and look what's going on an instance this post you know and they're like you know
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looking at Instagram instagrams ruining relationships and snapchats ruining relationships and Twitter and all that it's like people are subliminally telling each other stuff through social media what they feel about each other and it's all a perfect delusion mmm the real
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stuff is what we do in the room together when we look in each other's eyes and then all that floats away because let me tell you something the Internet is just like the earth in a way we're gonna destroy it yeah I don't disagree I've said this before I think I said to someone that last year we were trying to
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do something and I said yeah the Internet's did and they were like what are you talking about and I didn't really know at the time it just came out I just thought kind of feels been dead to me it's dead it's noise it's like a big toilet you know what like it's got it's a garbage can I can't sort between
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what's real and what's not I'm watching all these young kids die right and then you go on the internet and it's a bunch of garbage in the way of the truth there's a song on this album called Jo Ann which is the idea that is the title track and is one of the first things I'm just gonna tell the
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story I'm driving Mike down to blood studio downtown yeah to continue working with you on the record yeah and I'm in my Jeep at Saturday morning or whatever my mom's in the back yeah my mom's in town yeah I actually know this story but tell it mark mark told me but you should
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tell it yeah Lizzie Roscoe we're in the back and he starts playing songs and he played perfect delusion and we were just like I'll play it again we cranked it up and then he plays Jo Ann and man we were all just in the car like freaking out at that song my mom's like who was this lady gaga yes
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yes no he told me he told me she cried she did but it's as pieces of music go as a song on this Rako cause there's a performance in that and there's a there's a feeling in that song that's that even on an album like this it's that's a one take that that song that's why I was going I wanted how you got it
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out yeah that's a one take we did it that was the first tape we did it he kept the vocal he wouldn't let me change it he's smart yeah we did it we wrote it on a I have a picture of it I'll put it out when the song comes out when you premiere the song yeah when we play it man what time
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lol release that someone took a photo of me and Mark we were on the grass with the hummingbird he gave me he gave me a hummingbird guitar he was playing it I named her Amy oh I'm special yeah and we were sitting there and I had my typewriter out we were writing this song and there was
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someone took a photograph of us and it was that day that mark said to me he said what do you have to write about what do you have to write about not just you know let's write because you can write whatever you want I mean and it's true like I mean I don't mean that in like a arrogant way yeah I love writing
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music I could go in for any artists and help them write you know their dream album he's like but what do you have to write and I had to write about Joanne I had to because it's the single most important event in my family's life and it's the thing that has made me who I am
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today the subject matter that ties the album together that gives it its heart and its soul mixed with that vocal and just the timelessness of that particular moment it's gonna really blow people away and I think you know what's interesting is I think about your career or your journey it's a bit of word I
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think about your journey to date and I think about where you've taken us as listeners and every album is just like I'm over here now and then don't get too comfortable it's now on movie yeah just when you thought it was safe now I'm gonna go over here and then gonna go over here I'm gonna
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work with Tony then I'm gonna go win a Golden Globe ridiculous and then and then I'm gonna come over here and I'm gonna give you something like Joanne and it's just like your audience man they were in this for the ride you can tell because there's no other option well they you know they're my fans are my
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heart and my soul in so many ways because they they're on a rollercoaster that you can't see where it's going you ain't thinking I mean you are grateful but you ain't thinking about what's gonna make them happy considering the last thing you can't be because it's just like no well it's I don't think
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that's a healthy way to make music you know I think if when you're thinking about other people's perspectives too much in that way like oh you know what Muse Cyclades do you want from me that's that's trouble that's toxic but by the very nature of that statement you're so out of step with really what pop stardom
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kind of is because you know and I'm not going to name names but there are people who are your contemporaries or otherwise who without a doubt sit down with fifty writers and work out what's the thing yeah and I think I find that to be completely boring and it's a business
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and it's like an it's it's basically an algorithm yeah that I'm not interested in being a part that's not music to me that is becoming a part of the system and the more that you become part of the system the more that you lose yourself and you just become a robot you know yeah I want to create things that people
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never forget I don't want to be one of the pack is that what success is to you now having seen what success can be on a Wikipedia level yeah you know from number ones two stadiums well you know the thing is you just never know what's gonna happen I mean when I put just an set there was nothing on the radio like
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just dance my friend Mike Skinner from the street said something to me once we were having a coffee you know the streets amazing yeah and from the UK and we were talking about you news right look Gaga or Ford the floor back to American radio she was the first artist to put a fourth floor be on American
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radio every song you were pretty in gonna blame me for all this came out of you certainly put some of the good stuff on the radio that was the first time fall on the floor came back on radio thank you I'm not gonna take responsibility for that that's a nice thing to say but all I'm trying to say
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is this just dance was like nothing on the radio bad romance was like nothing on the radio Born This Way was like nothing on the radio perfect deluge applause was like nothing on the radio and perfect illusions like nothing on the radio so you know it's like sometimes I always I always say to
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people it did everybody get the memo that it's never gonna be what's happening because that's just not what I do I'm always doing what I'm I'm what's happening you know I'm what's happening and that's like a message that I think artists should take with them that you are what's happening why why
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well why surgically create something of yourself to fit into like I said an algorithm that the that's meant this is math that's the business of music the business of music is something that it's not good for me it's not healthy for me I have a need to make music I don't have
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a need to be famous it's totally different you have found yourself in situations and environments which have probably challenged you and taking you out of your comfort zone I can think of you know you'll work on screen being that you know being acknowledged for American Horror Story for your work in
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that doing that going into a star is born can't we hang with Bradley Cooper yeah we haven't started yet but it's amazing what a role yeah did you have to audition yes I did how is that scary exciting but you know I'm aroused by a danger part of that's part of me you know and that's on the record too
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why am i aroused by ding John Wayne yeah I was gonna talk about that one too it's one of the funnest songs on the record you know thank you you know that records about why do I chase wild men you know and I chase wild men because I chase my dad my dad's a wild man why is my dad a wild man cuz he
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lost his sister when he was 15 and since he lost his sister he's been chasing and chasing and chasing away to not feel the pain you've come to a point of realization and and of self-assessment on this record you just summed up the whole album right there and yeah in like one sentence yeah so what does the
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future look like to you now that you're able to recognize those things healing mmm healing joy way of giving back as much as I can to other people sharing that story helping them to realize what's happening in their own families and in their own lives you know I want
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people to hear Joanne and go oh that's why I do that mmm oh that's why I act that way still making mistakes though I'm sure on the way they make mistakes I'm not you know the on Diamond heart I say I might not be flawless but you know I've got a diamond are so many good lines in this now it's like when you
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like literally because I'm trying to take them in in the context of all of the music that's going on around this in time but you've isolated like four or five absolute can crushes but that's might look like that song is if I could you know young wild American looking to
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be something outs out of school go go in for a hundred or two truths some broke me in wrecked all my innocence but I'll just keep go going cuz this dance is on you oh one five ten lay a million on me before the end of this song young wild American come on baby do you have a girlfriend rain on me a million
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I'm not flawless but I've got a diamond heart you know that records about what you're willing to do to survive what you're willing to do to achieve the American dream no matter how tough your family made you you know I felt a lot of shame my whole life you know wondering if it was my fault when my dad was angry
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if it was my fault when my mom would shut down because you know she couldn't quite handle the chaos right and then you go oh oh oh I get it you know an italian-american girl grew up working-class hard-working working-class and and and gave up everything from me and my sister so that
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we could blossom and can you imagine giving us everything education and all and I say I want to be a singer you go ahead and you disrespect them by putting all those delicious cold cuts on your body and taking them to a new house the worst moments in your family's history look at this delicious meats you know
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what further doubt that wasn't that those moments actually were less troublesome for my family it was much earlier we liked it Mike in my childhood like I was when I was a teenager I was wrecked trying to you know be independent in a family that was my father feared my death in the most
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powerful we know the story of yeah my dad didn't wanna lose me horse he over protected me my whole life I you know and I was always going what I do wrong what's wrong with me is there's why do I need to be inside you know and what I do i sat at the piano and I played till my fingers
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bled and I wrote songs and became Who I am you know there is another story and I mean all kind of nonsense had played out in public as the SI but there is another artist who had lived has lived a very parallel existence based on this story which I'm sure you can relate to you know Madonna tells a sit back very
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similar story overprotective father Papa don't preach you know what I mean Madonna and I are very different mm-hmm just saying just saying I wouldn't make that comparison at all all right I don't mean to disrespect Madonna oh no no she said she's a you know a nice lady and she's had a fantastic huge career
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she's the biggest pop star of all time but I play a lot of instruments I write all my own music I spent hours and hours a day in the studio I'm a producer I'm a writer what I do is different I'm not just rehearsing over and over again to put on a show there is a spontaneity in
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my work I allow myself to fail I allow myself to break I'm not afraid of my flaws you know there are major differences between me and her and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way absolutely entitled to space no I just will not be compared to anyone anymore I am Who I am and this is me you know this
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my life story is my life story just like yours is mhm and the thing is that we all express things in different ways but my rebellion against my father for being angry with him for being angry with me that has ended mm-hmm this this album is about me embracing Who I am you know
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it's like finally um I can bite back and I'm so grateful to mark and to Josh Homme me and to give you know and to Kevin Parker and John misty and Beck you know can you imagine I am on Beck's biggest fan I'm Beck spit look at me i'm Beck's Biggs I have to fight you for that but go ahead
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okay fine I'm his biggest fan if you want to fight me about it we'll fight about it I'm talking we're talking stereo Pathak soul manure we're talking one foot in the grave we talk I'm talking I was 10 I walked here come on aru yeah from the center of a hundred thousand people to be if I left every
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one of my friends who were all on mushrooms god bless them and I was like bye and they said we're not coming with you that's ridiculous they're like it's not cool to go to the throne in the line and push people away I was like no it's not except if it's back because he's about
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to be all I'll be back and God bless Radiohead and I got to the front and he was playing and he was taking he was taking a request and I go did he do it he played Devin loved it okay and when I met him I told him and he remembered and I said he said we talked for hours we had amazing conversations about life
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personal conversations that I won't share of course and then he was like okay cool and I said so I what do you want to do man he's like I don't know and I said well you want to just like grab a guitar I could say that the piano will throw some mics up but we got the drum kit set up you want to just go in
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there and just you know jam and he goes yeah okay and we just went in there and we just jam I got to gem with my idol that's incredible where is he on the record what are we hearing him on dancin in circles I wrote dancin in circles with bang love he is just the most wonderful amazing
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person and you meet some sometimes you meet an idol and they are everything and more that you thought that they could be I you know I can say having many of them that's that's been part of my journey is to meet a lot of musicians and spin it's been time like this for better or for
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worse when musicians just trying to get some greatness like a masterclass for me right and I made a lot of idols and more than you think around more than you think they say never meet him a lot of them are really cool lot of them are really cool but once in a while you meet one that's really I mean a total yeah
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it's totally true and it's not cool it's not it sucks man I thought you were awesome and you're not how you gonna do hey girl wife oh I can't wait one of the biggest jams on the record love that when you and flow like unreal caiman I remember she came in and I was like okay I want
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to go back and forth and her and I went gotten it got into it about it cuz she was like why are we going back and forth we should just do it you know I should just sing the second verse in this and I was like no I was like there's got to be conversation we got to talk to each other I need two women having it out and
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then coming together you know and flow is one of the most talented singers I've ever heard in my life and I stopped smoking yeah right you did Yeah right well I have some to do man my records come quite a few cheeky ones here and there right tell the truth I I get like a
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little bit of my cigars hey what's up check this out exclusive you ready I quit smoking did you not really no I really you know what though I really did because no you didn't if you're artists all the same I've heard it so many times I've quit smoking I think yeah at the studio like having a cheeky puff okay
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but wait a second me smoking a pack of cigars a day is really different from me having a cheeky smoke like one little bit throughout the day to just like calm my nerves that's different did you quit smoking yes in my mind I had to you listen when Stevie Wonder hugs you and goes no you guys tell
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smoking them cigarettes oh that's you told cuz man I mean oh yeah or Tony Tony you're spoiling a gift I'm spoiling your gift don't do that lady lady don't do that lady and then I got Elton Oh God I mean that talk about the trilogy of heartbreak that's it right there yeah I'll be Elton's deviate a bit you know
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to stop smoking I'm like that's the best bit of advice Alton ever gave you to get sober yeah good advice yeah yeah he's a smart one very smart no he calls me and he'll be like you gotta get together you got it together go get that boy eat you got no snow did you been drinking you've been drinking you've been smoking
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I mean it's like I'm like you didn't get sober until you were really it's really up but you know what you know what it's a different age now it's a different age different age there's a lot the stress what's going on in the world yeah the amount of drugs yep hope they'll but it is to everyone
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to young kids also you know I gotta be a good example a role model too for young people whoa you know careful about that lane I could it's you're sitting about very high for yourself well you know I'm not saying that I'm gonna be the best role model in always but I can do my best
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yeah you can do your best there you go that's I mean I'm just saying like if you come out there and be like I've got to be an amazing role model you're more likely to turn around on the off day and say no I don't do that anymore I'm glad yeah if you're gonna say you just got to say it I'm not gonna be
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angry anymore but you still feel angry enough to get the job done yeah man I got to go out and sing out of these songs for my family for my fans for my grandma who lost her daughter I got to go out there and do this and you know what I can't wait for that moment at the Super Bowl when I get to sing this music
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and my grandma is sitting up there and she gets she knows that her daughter's listening that's the moment that's why I made this album you know I made it for the world I made it for my for my my fans I made it for people for I made it for people that are not my fans as well
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I made it for people that thought they never could have ever liked a lady Gaga song in their life like maybe your mom you know Lizzy in the backseat yeah you know going who is this right but that came from a very real place that came you know I was the I I was thinking about it going okay if I was just you
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know not famous me and I was just some girl living anywhere in America and I put my record out you know you know what would I be doing and you know my dad's got a restaurant called Joanne named after his sister and I said you know I'd probably help my dad out I'd put I'd put a music out called Joe
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and I'd sit outside the restaurant and I'd play that song every day and get people to come in and have dinner it's that simple I love my family and ever and you know not a lot of people don't have family mm-hm and that's also what's important about this record is because if you do
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have family and if you do have friends and if you do have support around you even if life is tough you got it this is the time for us to come together this is not about labels anymore you know I want my fans to embrace the difference of this album and help to heal other people because they're strong now