so sometimes you know when you put a record on your press play on the first song and this is getting rarer and rarer and these days as songs the kind of individual experiences and projects that defend unique when you put it on an album you press plan you know like oh my
god this is gonna be a classic albums is gonna be one of those moments for me because the opening song is so special the album has no choice but to stand up to that bar okay right and Golden Hour is that album because slow burn is that
song Thanks straight up thank you like the fifth song even played that song I didn't get past that song for about an hour the whole album starts and finishes as I'm sure anyone's fed back to you or maybe you've even realized from the way
I reacted on social media is a special record thanks so it's great to have you in the situation to catch the slow burn in this environment and this is how you want it it's great I want this is this is pretty much all you is this how you
wanted to look and to feel when they said what kind of vibe do you want for this I said think steamy modern neon jungle and they can deliver that so that's a very specific forwarded description yeah I don't know I don't know where where that came from but but
I'm really like loving this vibe it was really fun and just I don't know it's kind of a moody song and I don't know it just felt right it's a very universal welcoming song no I as well I mean yeah it's it's it's got that feel to it yeah
I'm it's reflective and it's reflective from the opening line I mean yeah it's very well too biographical and sets the record up beautifully it's a very open album Thanks it's definitely I would say my most personal I feel like I am
sharing more of myself on this album than I ever have I mean I've always been kind of an observation as to kind of looking at the world around me or the town that I grew up in and talking about that and I've never really focused on talking about my
own emotions sharing those where I'm at you know and it just felt like the right time I mean I just got married a lot of things have come to fruition for me personally I'm a lot happier now and I just feel like more of an open person so
naturally like it's just been reflected in the songs 26:27 as a human being is the moment we used to have to question Gnosticism and you start to try and replace it at least if I stick with things that really matter and so those couple years from
that point to be married and to be in a situation where I can reflect on your life it feels like that's kind of perfect timing if you put that into context were you a sort of a narcissist before that were there moments all right tell me I don't know
I mean yeah I think every young person is honestly psychedelics I will say have changed my perspective in a lot of ways and that and have given me a different perspective made me feel like you know I'm nothing in in the grand scheme of
time but also but we are also everything in everyone matters when we're all in this together you know and that it was kind of on a little bit of a spiritual journey a light one when this song came to me I was sitting on my porch and that
and mother came to me and then I were both of them the next day Wow but um also what's interesting is like so slow burn was the last song that we wrote for the record and it came out really fast and the same day we wrote slow burn and mother and we we knew that the album was
done and I played around like relentlessly with different sequences like obsessively just trying to figure out like how do these songs need to flow and so I wrote all the different song titles on a piece of paper and then I cut up those pieces of paper and would
arrange them in different ways and um I was always putting slower and last and just something like this didn't feel that cool about it I was playing with the opening lyric which is such a hit first like on first thought it was like
oh this would be a sick closer for a record you know like you get to the album and at the end and you know that's what it is and what was the opener out of interest for the long oh what a world good out of that and I was like that
would be a sick opener but then I was like wait that's so basic of me like I'm gonna what if I put this first and like holy like what if this started out the the journey like you know just kind of ease everybody in and the opening line I
mean I'm making fun of myself it's rare I go through songs lyric by lyric or at least for the majority but it feels like give me one of those lines feel special to you and it when it really introduces you to other people yeah and you know
born in a hurry always like classic situation premature birth often have that reaction when people were just like well I'll take my time now yeah I was a month early and I was like four pounds a little over four pounds I was real small and my mom it was on her the
day of her baby shower and she was like opening presents I'm fun and she was like oh we gotta go and yeah I don't know it just makes me laugh because I just like kind of have a hard time staying on task and time management um
it's not really my thing so but yeah right yeah yeah yeah of course yeah point in a hurry exactly Texas is hot I can be called grandma cried when I pierced my nose yeah yeah yeah she did and she still has it to say every time she sees me and makes fun of it and I
also have a septum ring too that I wear too sometimes I don't know why I just got bored one day and whatever but she yeah literally always still makes jokes she's like me that's something in there I'm like original Thanks you seem to be
very unafraid as a writer as an artist to be able to flankin but in the face of any convention whatsoever according to where you were born what kind of music moves you in what kind of passion you have to make that kind of music and way you perhaps should be and we know that
that up until very recently really when I think kids have taken control of genre and ripped it apart you know it can be hard to break her out of a mold and yet you seem to have been really wanting to do that from day one
well there's a lot of freedom when you do that from day one because there's no expectations on you and I mean especially me coming from the Nashville you know country music the modern country music genre there can be a lot of you know expectations stipulations
boxes a lot of rigid rigid lines especially as a female and I was just like that's not gonna be me like I'll just literally not have a career if this isn't gonna work but I'm not gonna do this if I can't just do what I want to do I mean I would it would kill me if I
would have come out of the box and you know swallowed my pride and sang a song or done something that wasn't really me or didn't really feel right but you know gotta change since that's what I'm saying and then you there's no going back I
mean literally that's that's it like you're done um and I was just like that's not gonna be me when you think of your peers now and I think of what's happened in the last five to ten years in Nashville and beyond it's not like not just yourself but also
the way pop music is embraced country music and how influenced crazy pop music in the biggest way absolutely I mean even if you look at like the style I mean Western fashion has always been something that I have loved so much I
mean I grew up wearing it down in Texas like the hats the fringe rhinestone stuff I mean it's part of me I can't get rid of it I love it so much and then you see you know Miley and Ke$ha and like a lot of people like adoring that's those
styles and it makes me really happy because for the longest time in country music everyone kind of was like it's not that cool it would be country and now I love that it's actually being braced I mean look Mason Ramsay is a perfect example of like pop culture like
thriving on country I mean yeehaw is having such a moment he's such a superstars unbelievable and it's so funny because I've got these you know people who I work with it was super tapped in and they just search for the most exciting new things and all they
want to talk about his three things one of which is Mason yeah and they're just obsessed with this little guy because they just believe in him and I think about it not just like Sturgill Simpson as well who has really forced his path
to and done his way and he's just another side of what I would consider the you know perhaps the more kind of traditional and and timeless version of country music but again covering the Varnado yeah it does does his own thing for sure
I mean talks about listy and yeah you know I mean just doing a thing and like the thing like there's always gonna be purists out there that are angry when you stray from whatever it is that they either know you to be or what they think
that the genre is but first of all what the hell is even country music anyways these days I mean it's it's a bunch of different things I just think that this great songwriting I just look at it a storytelling and great song right the
best country has always been great songwriting story story song storytelling you know look look at like Loretta Lynn who sang about like real life things that were hard for people to talk about at the time birth control and like you know things like that and so no
that's the thing that I appreciate about the genre most ya know for sure so one of the things that really stands out for me on the album and it's in you know really in great evidence here during your performance on this the set is you
know the vocal performances on this record you seem to have found this perfect balance I think between this power and this passion and your vocal performance but you'll really control guitar like it's so effortless on the record and I wonder whether or not that
was very much by design in the way that you did or just came out according to Shane because I can hear it and that the tone in the performance blows me away on this record Thanks I appreciate you saying that because it was kind of by design you know really
wanted to play with the arrangements and the melodies more you know kind of a nod to those old you know the 70s gold like those songs where female singers would modulate and really sore over you know the arrangements and I've never really
had songs like that you know I think for a long time I just got really comfortable you know staying kind of in this vocal range that in a way probably made me stand out against you like super powerhouse singers you know merry-go-round like those little songs
that's like very intimate it's almost a whisper and the the vocals are tailored to you know what the lyric names control this ya know know well and I mean I've never had a voice like ariana or somebody like that that can you know
it's very acrobatic that's just not my strong suit and like I've always been more of a lyricist but this time I was like look I really want to sing I want to have fun with it and I kind of forgot that I I can sing so it was it's been
like a fun challenge for me know one of the best vocal performance records of the year and I think about you know oh what a whirl which is one of the standout songs and how anybody asks whether steps into that arrangement and probably felt especially off the back of
the bridge to try and reach some other platform you know oh man the hardest one is happy and sad there's a modulation that we got a couple mods on the album and oh I don't know I mean who doesn't love a mod like really one of the most
powerful songs on the record is mother and and obviously when it appears in the on the album when you initially hear it it's it's short it really does what it needs to do very very quickly and it really leaves you wanting more but then
also being a little scared to hear more this is such an emotional love moment and you know I know you spoke a little bit before about being in a you know in a willfully altered state when you wrote that song it's not the kind of song you
normally expect people to write it's not pit sounds so I mean like where did that's not come from and how well I was sitting on my porch one summer day wasn't one night and yeah I was honestly just sit there and write songs on your
porch it's amazing what's weird is like for up until like literally a week ago I didn't even have chairs out there so I didn't go out there and sit but but for some reason this night we went on a little trip and sat on the porch and my
husband was kind of in the background just like playing this like really sad acoustic music like really sad minor chords and I was like you're bringing me down over here and I was just thinking about I don't know I just I just started thinking about just the world like
everybody of all kinds just the fact that we're in this together we're just in this crazy ass time and I don't know it just made me feel like closer to humanity you know and I started thinking about my mom and just really missing my
family's they'll all live in Texas and she texted me she texted me at that moment and it was it's a long story short it was just a really sweet text and it was a picture of her hands cuz she was really she was really proud of herself that she had stopped biting her
nails and this sounds so mundane but she was like look you'd be really proud of me I stopped biting my nails and I was like mom that's awesome I'm so proud of you they look so good and she wrote back and she goes ugly old hands I can't keep
the East Texas dirt off of them oh and the way that she said that I just like lost it and then he's back here playing this sad music and I'm like and you're hi yeah I'm just not even on earth no but I know but I really I just felt really open it blood gates open and I
just was thinking about my mom's hands and the fact that I'm sitting there in Tennessee missing my mom who's sitting there in Texas missing her mom who passed away a few years ago and then I wrote the song down in my phone and finished it the next day so I wonder
where it how far it goes for at this point now Casey and and and you know I feel you could play this home for a long time but what are your thoughts yeah for the future I am putting together my headlining tour for the fallen for next
year um I feel really energetic and really excited to keep bringing this album to people more so than I really ever have and I'm finding a lot of joy and playing the songs I'm happily married and exploring that and you know working on my house whenever I am home
which is never but things are good I'm happy and this has been a crazy year touring this area was really fun and just putting this record out and seeing how people have championed me evolving and also it finding new people that
didn't know me before has been really gratifying well thank you thanks for an amazing album that we you know I still listen to and still put on various playlists and it's amazing how the songs can just fit into so many different
contexts I love that why dude oh that's my favorite part like I don't know thats how music should be these days and I love that the main thing that I feel like I hear or see that people are saying about this record is I hate country music but I love Katy love I
love this album well I don't hate country music but I love this out I actually made a playlist when I was on vacation which went from Thomas Newman and to slow burn into a big song and it was like the three day awesome it was an
awesome thanks so seriously like it as records go it works beautifully as a whole but also it's just it's a great moment individually too and yeah thanks again for doing this for us really excited to have been able to collaborate with you on dude thank you you