the last two or three years which have led up to this album there's been some really significant change in your life and the album being called changes focuses on one mm-hmm but why did you stop the tour in 2017 and and what was the reason for them I was really tired emotionally physically and I was sick
and I didn't realize I was sick so I had like epstein-barr which is like it's called mono and then I have Lyme disease so it was that it was just everything compounded I think how was it adjusted your lifestyle and how you move forward and what changes have you noticed she's
doing the right treatments for doing the right IVs and all that sort of stuff listen to Hayley when she says she feels that I'm rundown and she can let me know what I'm like all right you're looking depleted right now and it's clear to anyone who hears this album the two of
you have found you know a really important bond and this marriage is has been a hugely important development in your life it's been a really big reason why I'm coming back and I'm successful at this I mean she giving me substance to talk about she's the person that I'm
learning to love unconditionally start a family with so how did you kind of know I'd let her know prior to the tour when we were hanging a lot I said listen I'm still really hurt you know I I'm not in a place to you know be faithful and all this sort of stuff that I wanted to be
you know but I just wasn't there yet I took the time to like really build myself I really took a deep dive in my faith those tough years is in a way you were punishing yourself because you didn't have the answers right I think that I was just yeah living in this
shame living in all this sort of stuff in my past and I wasn't able to move on do you think the person that you either you of then was on a path of self-destruction oh for sure yeah I would have first shared 100% yeah it would have been no hobo no it was bad I
don't know if I'd be alive for sure it was dark so I'm very very grateful to have influences in my life that have played a huge part in me seeing their relationship with Jesus and their relationship with their wives and their relationship with their kids and saying that's what I want but I want to
definitely tell my story so that if if that resonates anybody that they can uh hopefully learn from it well for me you know music comes from somewhere right maybe it comes from this youthful naivety and this desire to escape something oh and then you get out there in front of the world and then it
comes from a place of wanting more of it yeah I mean just think about how young it was and so impressionable and you have everybody telling me how good how awesome I am at all times you know I'm like yes I taking a kid and putting a kid in a room full of nothing but sweets
right and just saying I'll be back in two days exactly I just want people to understand like the psychology behind why I potentially could have problems in my life so yeah thank you for being here and helping me tell that story when did you realize that it was time for you to
reconnect with Haley I just felt there was a lot of resolution in my life I'd seen her at an event I'd seen her with a baby and something just clicked and I was like wow she's the one you nervous before you pop the question I was I mean that's a big commitment my
parents were never married I never got to see what that really looked like so I'm like a naive it and do this don't even know what it looks like to do this but I just felt like God was saying I'll show you when you need answers perhaps can you talk to your parents can you try
to untangle that to be honest I think there's levels of you know what I think our relationship is ready to handle at this moment I want them to play a role in my life and that's pretty simple it'll just be my mom and dad she's kind of trying to figure out how to she's how
to navigate being married I'm frigging married down and I got the best wife in the world she supports me through so much I'm really honored to be her husband and I just really have made a whole album about it yeah it's you know this is an album I wrote in the first
year of our marriage you know so it's like there's so much more to learn about commitment and you know building trust and foundation I'm just I'm looking forward to continuing to build and make music that's gonna reflect that this was great about changes it's a honeymoon
record yeah exactly Tina so when did you didn't know you wanted to get in the studio I'm feeling spired I think when I went on stage with Ariana Grande he gave me kind of like a boost of confidence oh this is what this is what I do this is what I'm good at and I don't need to run away from it I
was like yeah I was running away it was a great moment when you came face to face with Billy Eilish in her own way dealing with this very very public explosion of success and of attention she was so quick yeah she's she's crazy she's a superstar what was going through
your mind when you record we need when you saw that kind of reaction I wanted to protect the moment you know I don't know how many opportunities I'm gonna get you know we never know how many opportunities we're gonna get with anybody I mean just I'm tearing up
thinking about it just with the COBE situation you know I just wanted to be a good example and it was hard for me being that young and being in the industry you not knowing where to turn and everyone you know telling me they love me and you know just turn their back on you in a second um so if she
ever needs me I'm gonna be here for her but um yeah just protecting those moments because people take for granted uh encounters and I just want to protect her you know I don't want her to go through anything I went through I don't wish that upon anybody yeah if she ever
needs me um I'm just a call away do you realize how important your story is every time I have a conversation with someone who's been through this unique type of experience and just I'm searching for some kind of truth that can help I commend you for going there
and asking the tough questions and the things that people don't want to talk about and they don't want to go there because it's just it's revealing and it's I want people to take a look at my story and hopefully my words can make a difference you chose to make an album
really hyper focus as we said before on the honeymoon phase of your marriage and you're open the doors some really keen collaborators as well Ewan came anterior jumped out of me because I was talking about her tongue I love her tone and I just think she's honest I haven't spent much time with
her but I was out to dinner with her the other night and I just felt like he actually seemed like she was pretty authentic who in heaven's name was cliff oh it's this guy who I found on the Internet and he just has this vibe that's just you can just feel the pain through the music have you got that
project in you at some point in the future and it sticks out with purpose left off but goes even further uh yeah I mean I was just in the back there and I literally just came up with the title to my album but I don't know if I'm gonna share right now that's okay I just think
there's so many issues in society and things that I'm eventually gonna want to just speak about you and your fans have had the most incredible journey and ride and and I wonder sort of how you feel as you're growing and maturing about having fans and what that concept feels like
yeah the concept it's just so different than you know when I was younger it's confusing when you're young because that person loves me what else are you come you're coming from a place where when you're faced with this adoration and this love but you're not quite sure what
love is mm-hmm there you go that's big but we're touching on it is big right now I don't even think people know how big this is yeah what is what is love love is you know what Haley and I are doing every day everyone has selfish desires you know everybody has bad thoughts and pushing
those aside and saying I'm not gonna indulge in that because you give me something that I I want more than that those things we would you ideally like to be at the end of this decade um I just feel like there's so much to look forward to I'm really excited so you
have babies with you enjoy just celebrate you know all the amazing things that we've been given because we are blessed babe we are man there's so much pain in the world and you don't understand why and there's so much things that are so unexplainable but
what is the reality we are blessed you know oh man it's hard that dichotomy of like how can we mourn the loss of someone you know and accept that we are still blessed it's a really hard thing to discover but I think when you get there it's a beautiful place to be thanks man thank you you