music is coming out how do you feel about that excited you know mo mostly excited and it's been a little crazy with um the last little push for the album but every day I'm just like reminding myself this is the moment that I've been waiting for just so like enjoy it as much as I can taking it all the way to the very
end cuz we kept getting versions of of Music obviously super underlock and key and and they make everyone was very clear not final not final and it's like 3 days ago another version not final I'm like y Jenny's pushing this to the very end this is fire she's literally in the studio till 400 in the morning like it's not done literally
literally so when how do you feel now it is was it hard to let it go was it hard to to say okay it has to go it has to be finished at some point I think that was the biggest lesson that I might have learned off of this album is that knowing how to stop and um kind of limiting myself some time to accomplish something and I'm not used to that kind
of environment so definitely must have been really nice actually to start a process and do some real diligence some real work into what you want to say and who you want to say it with and success and and Pace are great but it must have been really nice to start this and just know you had some time because I'm also
so used to just going and after just keep going um like you said when I first started working on the album was like wow I have a whole year like Le you know I have all the time and then once I got in the studio for the first time that's when I was like oh my God I'm already running out of time and this is like a year before this I'm so
glad you said that cuz I was thinking this album covers so much of who you are for the first time it says so much about who you are from the fight to the fragility from the beginning to the very end you must have got in there and just being like how do I make sense of all of this I was first of all very shocked and I
didn't realize I didn't realize how much I've been distan from myself throughout the years so I really got to the greatest part of this solo project for me was that I had time with myself and I never had time for myself um which was great so you know I really got to dig deep inside of who I am and what I am
and you know all the self-reflecting times um and that's how the album that's that's how the album was made by really just understanding me better it's real work that oh so much and the most difficult like it was nothing was easy um so many new emotions that I got to learn and throughout that it it needed so much energy and I I didn't realize
that to me it was um mostly like what kind of words do I want to put in what kind of sound do I want I didn't realize walking into the studio was more about what knowing what I want what I really want all of it as well not just like working with someone who gets you on the day M and it's like oh we've got a good
vibe here this is a cool track it's like no no no no every step on this record has to tell another part of your story and you're right I think when people start working really hard work is a distraction from self-work mhm so when it's like who am I actually harder work mhm in a lot of ways no definitely we don't get a song like twin without that
and we're we're going to get to that oh my God yeah it's a real one and I think you know a lot of people will respond to the honesty on that but we got to start somewhere else and um the album's called Ruby and and it's it's one part of a longer name that became a part of your identity if the stor is correct when you
were young and you trying to figure out who you were tell us the story behind behind that you were in New Zealand at the time or this is even earlier than that this is when I wasn't living in New Zealand and back then um I guess I I guess in the back of my mind when I was like 11 knew that I want to create this identity for myself like Jenny wasn't
doing Justice for me and I was like I want a longer name so that's how it was created what I didn't realize over time was I almost manifested this throughout my years like I knew who I wanted to be at very young age on and then it was just a matter of what's going to make you realize so that's also one of the
reasons why I landed and I picked the name Ruby for this album but there's just so much inspiration behind that too it's not really only about me representing myself but um to me it felt like a new chapter opening and I wanted to I Really spent my time referencing many different things about the album and that's when the play of As
You Like It by Shakespeare came in instantly when I saw the title as you like it it just spoke to me so much in a way I was like wow I don't know what I like you know on the same subject as before so I told myself I'm going to make this album as I like it I don't care what anyone else is going to say about it so
that's that's where we began and since I started I got to drop one on that that's to now that's profound that's a huge moment that's a huge moment for you because you're immediately from what you're telling me it feels like divorcing yourself removing any previous expectations or successes and putting it really squarely in a very simple phrase
MH does it move me I want to talk about the manifestation side of it a little bit more M how old were you when you moved to New Zealand um I was nine on your own I was nine on my own so I recently found out that my mom spent two months with me in the beginning of my trip wow and you didn't remember that she reminded you of that what I how I
remembered it was I went to New Zealand I was crying for two days and then I suddenly um stopped crying on the third day and enjoyed my life there since then ever since then that's how I REM remembered it and my mom told me no no no I was with you for the first two months and then the two days were when she left
back to Korea wow isn't it crazy how we compartmentalize these things and remember them it's a survival mechanism I know I was I was very shocked when I heard this it's a wild story because and and we're going to play catch up very quickly but I haven't this is the first time we've met and and the story is just
so interesting to me that you would make the decision ultimately when given the opportunity to live in New Zealand on your own in order to learn a new language understand things better is this all part of the same manifestation was this part of the plan looking back on it now that you maybe didn't even realize that you felt you needed these
building blocks wow which also tells me how much um my mom has been such a big supporter of mine she you know from a young age we traveled a lot and when when I was nine that's we were traveling playing around Australia and New Zealand and just the fact that she wanted me to have an open eye for the world not just
in Korea is is also very rare in in a Korean culture so hard as well for any parent in any culture to say goodbye to their children at that age it's such a an important age for the bonding of parent and children to say I understand you have a desire to be elsewhere to learn something new huge that's huge you know every day I'm so grateful that I
had my mom with me the whole time and maybe the she named me Jenny in Korean is a very also rare thing for for a Korean name it's a Korean rare Korean name so I'm almost like wait was my mom a part of this manic with me the whole entire time and I don't know yeah being unique is awesome as you grow older and
your identity becomes your own and you're like hey I'm Jenny that's rare my story is rare there's all these rare things about everybody but when you're a kid and you're trying to sort of find your place in society in life those things can sometimes feel a bit isolating was it hard knowing what you wanted out of life while your friends
and your peers were just being kids maybe maybe towards the end and maybe that's why I knew that's when I needed to go back to Korea was because I knew that my life my my school life in New Zealand isn't what I want in my life at that point when when I was 14 so I think I knew the limits pretty pretty early and and and yeah so I got to make my
decision you know you obviously have an incredible Inner Strength um and and there's also a side of you which is there's a sensitivity to the way that that your fans and people see you right it's like this really interesting Paradox between strength and vulnerability I feel makes up your music it's really evident here is that does do
you recognize that is is that is that a good sort of observation in terms of your personality that there's this Fierce side to you but also the side of you that's kind of sensitive I think that's one of the things that was a struggle for me last year was understanding that balance of reability and and the braveness that I have um I
kind of now wanted to really give time and understand what triggers me that way and what makes me feel both things and and learning about um vulnerability is is I think the closer you understand understand that emotion the braver you become because now you know so there's nothing to be uh afraid of and when you listen back to
this album do those emotions rise to the surface still because this album means so much to you that we will never truly understand because of the journey you've been on I don't know like it's it's interesting cuz now that I'm almost at the end of my album It's not finished yeah what are you doing I'm crazy not final not final
you're killing us out ofio I know I mean the the fact that that I still see something that I hear something it's I I am pretty amazed at myself but you know that's how dedicated I am that's how sincere I am and I'm I like to believe I'm I live with no regrets and I live my life to the fullest um even when it
comes to any other things in life so I just want to feel that way once when it's March 7th you're an adventurer I mean you can't be 9 years old and travel on your own to New Zealand and figure out figure out your way in a foreign country and try to understand who you are and who you want to be unless you have a desire for adventure right you've
seen so much and experienced so much already what was it like not traveling and just I mean I'm sure you travel in the process of making the record but it's different kind of travel was it how did it feel to stop well surprisingly I still managed to be traveling but um I did spend a lot of time out here in La for the first time
in my life and um I really got to experience the city and the people out here you know I'm I'm learning like it it it started it off amazingly and then the more I spend time I'm just being more attached and there are things that I like and don't like now so I think it I can surely say now I have like La is a
space in my heart a home kind of what was the first song that you feel began to unlock the identity of this album and and really made you realize you know all this work I've done up to this point is going to matter it's Zen huge one of my favorites hands down thank you I love that thank you I was surprised you it was a Lucy I
was like that's a Smasher and you like here's the video moving on moving on I was like well this album me to be serious cuz that's a killer it I love that track and I and I and I love the intensity you've built around that concept you haven't leaned into what it like on paper you've created your own version of almost like fight Zen mhm wow
with Zen there is so much to talk about but when Zen came along that's that's when I knew oh my album is Ruby and it's happening and that was maybe like six months into spending time at the studio every day oh my God that's really that's tough after 6 months wondering like when am I going to get an answer mhm every
month just got more harder as time went by I felt more an anxious I felt you know I felt like something was coming chasing after me when this is something that I started so I started you know I lost myself in in my head and then I met this amazing writer called BB she played a very big role um for my album she
really opened up to me and I learned to open myself up to her and we just had a great time and and that's when zen zen came along and it after many conversations that I had with her about our true motivation our Inspirations and our just life we clicked pretty quickly and and and then yeah and then with the message and the words in in Zen
is was done in such a delicate way it was made in such a delicate way but but to be expressing it in such a loud yeah Fierce way I think that's kind of represents who I am yeah that's that there it is the fight and fragility again it's that Paradox right it's that Paradox of those two things I know that you are a committed curiously spiritual
human I know you're searching for holistic ways to stay balanced all the time and uh I want to talk a little bit about that side of your life because it seems to me that not just physical health which is a part of training and working out and staying fit for the stage and doing all those things but you understand the importance of Inner
Health as well when did that sort of start to become a priority for you I think it's something that I've always been curious about and something that was on my mind telling myself like you need to learn about this but I just never had the time and there wasn't people around me who understand that world of um our inner inner mental
health and I think that's maybe what it was kind of not dragging me but fr frustrating myself throughout some years and during pandemic and over covid is when I was forced to be at home and learn about myself a little bit and as soon as that space opened the first thing I wanted to understand and know about this life was
why do I feel this way what is this negative feeling where is it coming from and then from there you know so big that's the biggest one ever when you get that feeling and you you're not quite sure the first thing that you have to ask yourself at least in my experience is what is that feeling and where is it
coming from in my life like if I can pinpoint the moment where I think I can connect that I have a better understanding of what's driving it MH so that's that was the moment um that I remember distinctly when I started learning about it and then from then on it was A Whole New World opened up and and that's why I'm here feeling strong
and confident and healthy is because of those times yeah where are you getting your information from not just listening to yourself but are there books that you've been reading are there podcasts I mean that that's a lifelong Pursuit trying to better understand through the teachers how we can live with more balance I
think back then I didn't even realize that I needed uh anyone to teach me or or or give me information on it I was still at my wondering face so the more I started talking to people about it and making friends that understand who um when I say you know I'm struggling I'm not sick but I'm struggling inside how do I fix it like
the more I got to meet more people around the world and make friends that's when I that's when also I realize you know I grew up in New Zealand I went to school there so there's still a side of me where you know I'm just a kid in New Zealand and I'm I'm from a uh multi Multicultural background and you know I
grew up with the black pink girls I'm so used to um being inspired by different cultural people and I think I started to be once I started understanding I became less shy of a person when I talked to people and things like that just meeting people over the years meeting the right people was what helped me a lot throughout yeah did you feel like you
had to be the leader when blackpink began not because you were given that job or because you even wanted that job but just because of the life you'd already lived having lived away on your own learned to deal with things on your own up to a certain point did you feel protective of the band like there was a
role that you just fell into up to these days black pink don't have like an official leader which is um not common for a K-Pop group is I think also back then there was a side of me where I thought I know this so well I know what to do it I know I know how to do it let me do it let me I got this but yeah I like I was there's a side of me that
tells me that all the time back in the training days but um I don't think that necessarily made me think like for everyone like I need to lead but just because I was going um on a clear path it was easier for rest of the girls to kind of see maybe where where she's taking and and luckily they liked it um but yeah when it came to like roles I
think the four of us compliment each other so well it's incredible that is very much at the heart of the success look songs come and go shows come and go relationships and chemistry is what people believe in The Human Experience and it's clear the four of you have each other's back hard for me not to hear a
song like start of war and think that that's part of it like I think the inspiration behind that song is really about um reminding the person of someone that you want to protect and could be anyone it could be your friend your family your love it could be anything that you want to protect for but it the lyrics of That Song speaks to me so much
because every time in different situation you think of different people that you want to protect and it make makes you feel more full inside this is such a a great opportunity to talk about this body of work you know this is a real sort of uh this is a this is your personal manifest Manifesto of everything you've learned up to this
point um and it's been a lot you've learned an enormous amount already what was the one thing that that you leared about yourself during the making of This Record that was the most valuable to you in the long term in your life understanding my value and and believing in that is for my for me that was the biggest learning um
because now I'm not afraid to challenge myself because I know I'm I well this is like what I tell myself this is my Mantra like you know um the things to tell myself that I love myself that I'm worth it that I'm so proud of myself and things like that is is something that I've never experienced before and that's my motivation my
biggest motivation is um accomplishing what I dream of and you know what that's the most fun part so I want to say yeah understanding my value was the biggest lesson perfect so what was driving you before you came to that conclusion are you any closer to understanding what was motivating you even from a young age to
want to reach people and make people happy but ultimately you knew the work that was it was going to take and the mhm do what was what was driving you that's I I should ask myself what you know what was it before but over time um I the more I realize about um myself and the motive that I have for with music and who I am as an artist and
how I want to change the world in my own way think like that I guess was in deep side of my heart that I I couldn't hear but um I think that was my motivation and having done that having done that now for some time having seen that the the the success you can have by making people happy mhm what's that feeling like for
people who don't get to go on stages and see the reaction that people have when you're up there and the bigger the marer first of all like once you're up there feeling everyone's energy just focusing on you I think that's just a blessing to have felt that like you said um but I didn't realize the meaning of um I'm influenc influencing them to
be happier and and this positive energy I didn't real realize the impact of it impact of it how heavy that was and that's that's also what I figured it out was wow I want to do something with this and now now that I understand the impact that I can bring let me let me work on it and use it for a good use for my
heart and yeah you know I'm not sitting here telling like I'm going to change the world but to to have the right motives for it I think is important and to make your mother proud mhm yeah can we talk about stylight yes yes well you're you're you're um picking all the songs that I love so much well I mean the whole album is you smashed it but
yeah these are the there were some moments in this record that really stuck with me mhm you know Starlight being one of those oh you were clearly dealing with some heavy stuff to to to get out of your system on that M right MH and and starlight really the black mystery is is the story behind it you know when
uh this song was also with BB we talked about the heavy things we talked about struggles over the years but not just me we we had we had this Bond of sharing each other sharing each other's experiences and being influenced by it so yeah I shared a little bit about the years and and what I did and she instantly knew like you're here she
is first of all she's like my Mo motivator in life anything she says I'm just like wow I agree with you and that you're giving me power to to be a stronger of myself and she gave you a safe space to talk about some of those experiences and there's a part in this song where I'm saying but um something about reme wait
remember the night now I remember the night um that part is it's me telling myself never to remember this self of myself you know I'm like let's remember night that we wrote this song and all the all the great um ideas that came to us and the inspiration that came to us that day like this is what makes us special it's a lonely song though I mean
it it it there's resolution at the end a sense of like self-awareness and and learning um overcoming that I think yes overcoming a sense of loneliness and it really made me feel that you really captured that sense of like and everybody feels this but that sense of isolation and not knowing what to do and there have been moments like even
through all the success where we don't know what's happening in the moments in between the black mystery MH that's I think the song speaks speaks it all for me how has Soul changed since you came home because you've been part of such a an enormous transformation on the on the world stage in terms of how people perceive career
and soul you and your contemporaries some friends I'm sure who have gone ahead and done amazing things um but how have you seen it changed as someone who was born there it changed really quickly by the way it changed as soon as um as soon as black pink debuted and from then on [Music] um it's it's it's like my hometown in a way
where I feel the most safe and comfortable but also very strange you know it's I don't know how much um I want to get into but I'm like so deep in my head and I'm like thinking wait I'm there's a mic in front of me I'm not talking to a friend you mayy feels so comfortable that's kind of what I was hoping for but equally but equally I
respect the fact that you're creating boundaries for yourself and you don't have to cross anything yeah I was just like going through over the boundaries in my head I'm like wait wait wait wait you know when I was there and I loved Soul it had a profound effect on me soul oh wow did it really really did Yeah Yeah from the minute I
touched down and drove into the city to leaving and flying out and looking at it I remember you know I called my wife I was like wow we got to come here one day because it's an incredible place oh wow um but one of the things I noticed was that you know you and your contemporaries are everywhere M and people can say that up
and down Sunset all they want but they change that all the time I feel like there's something with you on a digital billboard at all times in that city is that kind of what was going through your head just now the balance between home and that yeah there's like nothing to hate about it it's like you said if you
have the right balance between and since I have my family and my friends there that makes me feel less of the person on the billboard um it's it's then it's good there is nothing to hate about it if if anything I'll be driving by and feeling really proud um so yeah I'd like to talk about the writing and producing on this record
of which you contribut an enormous amount this isn't one of those albums where you work with people and let them figure it out you know your fingerprints are all over this um what did you learn about yourself as a composer and as a producer on this record because it has a very specific Sonic through line that obviously is you there is still so
so much that I need to learn and spend time on like really it was the first year of me in the studio so much looking at tracks and hearing different sounds and um exploring different vocals so up to up to now I'm like so what is it that you like and I still can't explain it because I'm always in the studio being
like you know I want to make this a little bit more uh how how do you communicate what is it like what is it it's the way so the people that I can work with have to kind of understand this language of my body language of music I'm like and also the the different words that we use in the music world Korean and English is so different
so I'm like um can we make this sound a little bit you know like the sound when you tune into the like it's the worst it's actually the most I don't want to share is the most embarrassing of the experience it really is I'm like I know what it is like I can hear it in my head I'm learning how to speak that you know
yeah and what's the appropriate reaction to that moment if you're a collaborator with you is it to be like I do not understand be more clear or is it to crack out laughing which one do you prefer um I I prefer the Laughing people cuz once they don't get it then then it's just silence I'm like you know you know my U is outside and I'll just
you know what session has been fun and everything I I'll call you don't call me I'll call you um FTS that flip that script um what was going through your mind when you wrote that one because it's uh it's a very D it's one of the most direct songs on the record one of my favorite songs obviously um that was a day where cuz we
were doing back to back every day in the session so every day was just making different songs and that day I remember we it was Carly and BB and I talking about late at night talking about [Music] um how much work that we've put in into our for our dreams and the more you scare your heart um of your Purity um it's going to your dreams are
going to eventually come true you just got to believe in it so we were like talking about this deep life things that we've learned over years and at the end we were just like you know what this yeah like that's what happened you know what just that sh let's yeah that's and that became a song we wrote that
really fast too how much fun was it to sing that the first time you you you did the demo vocal so good and I still have fun every single time um I love the chanting um background vocal that I have left in the song where we're that cuzz that's the truth of that song we were literally talking for hours to come up with that topic and we just started
singing for and made the song like that so I hope you take this the right way in which it's intended and trust me it's coming from a very pure place of being a fan of black pink and a fan of this record and you know I spoke to to to Ros as well and we had a great conversation about that it must be great to get to a
point in your life where to a certain degree the expectation of what is appropriate inappropriate because you're trying to build an audience build things form a relationship with people I guess my point is that may not have jumped out the gate during the early days of black pink oh no definitely for
sure this song is uh evidence of growth and and time and for that for me and trust and Trust yeah and trust and and aital you the chance for you to establish some dependance MH that isn't a weird way right your framework that that that backs you up mhm no instantly and I'm surprised that all of this things the changes in my life happened
in just one year of last year but maybe I tell myself maybe this was the right timing like it's it was the right time to start a new new chapter for myself and build and really try to build the things that I want from deep down in my heart you know Ros has done it too I mean we talked about her album and what
a huge growth that was for her to say the things I mean that's a heartbreaking record and she went through some she did and I was live I heard everything live so you know I know how sincere she was about every work that she has made um yeah I'm so proud of everyone and I'm so happy for everyone um I'm so I feel so grateful to be in a group with
um having having this family of yours that are going to to the same same path I guess with a stop on the way where you can come together and take what you've learned and and I mean that next Black Pink tour is going to be fuing crazy I mean you're going to get to step into each of your individual spaces and support each other through that I can't
even imagine which I mean I'm sure you're going to do Zen cuz you love that I I'm I'm thinking on it I have yeah you got to be thinking on it I mean decided twins got to be up there too a but that's literally how I feel every time I hear cuz I've never talked with anyone about this deeply about my album you are
the first person if anything so I'm having this new reaction to myself twin is powerful because that's and this is where that the analysis ends but I love the thoughts and the feelings Beyond it but I'll make this statement it's about someone for sure like you ain't writing that song cherry picking emotions like that's a that's a letter
wow you saw right through me yeah well it's all in the music it's too personal it's Ashanti on the beach that's that's a memory that's a memory yeah uh that yeah that song is a very very special song to for me maybe the most personal song um but by the time we were done with the song uh I read it back and to
me I was like okay people can resonate to this there's got to be someone that makes everyone feel this way absolutely we all have unresolved relationships and things we yearn I straight up you're being honest with me I'll be honest with you I saw someone on Thursday night at a dinner I was out with some friends he
was just sitting there with his partner and I was so happy to see him we hadn't spoken there was oddness between us for a few years it was emotional we both got emotional I didn't waste any time I just pulled it all away and just hugged him was just like I miss you you know that song is that yeah you said it in the perfect way that's how I felt with the
song has it helped you pluck the courage to be able to take the right steps no 100% I think um being after being truthful on that song made me gave me conclusion gave me a clear thought on how I felt of that relationship and and it says it all that there you go I'm writing my letter to you MH I don't know if you're doing asnl the season or
what the plan is but that's a real one like you're an incredible performa journey everybody knows that and and as a member of the band or on your own you know you you own the screen and you own the stage it's so amazing I'd imagine for you to be able to play that live and just do the opposite I'm excited you
brought some friends along I love how you chose you collaborators really carefully you got old friends in there Dominic fight mhm I feel like you guys had the best kachala weekend ever that weekend I feel like I kept seeing cuz I know Dom I kept seeing Dom and you guys in different parts and it was like you
were just part of the 100,000 people it wasn't even like you were performing like is anyone watching these guys're just literally running around this Festival having the greatest time what do you love I mean I've spent time with D I went to Naples and spent time with this family we hung out for the whole day wow it was pretty incredible um so
I've had some deep conversations with him let's talk about your relationship with him what you connect on with him and what you see in him unfortunately the featuring it wasn't in person cuz that's what I would have preferred yeah um it's your friends right you know him mhm he's he's tell me Dom is like a free free spirit guy
and every time we talk I have the best time I laugh yeah it's funny it's really funny he's truthful and you know the music part is everything about it was very organic um I was just happy that he he wanted to jump on and when we were texting he told me how much he appreciated um the fact that I wanted him on my album and I was like what are
you talking about I feel the same so yeah throughout this song I think I've become a great friend friend of him now that maybe for a future um in the future we could really be in a studio working together and learning about each other but I feel like that kind of is a is a is a motivating factor for you like when
you showed up on the Matt champion song we were just like this is such a touch like Matt's awesome Brock Hampton's a great legacy but on paper no one's expecting Matt Champion Jenny collaboration it's obviously talk let's talk about this like what motivates you to say yes I don't see a reason to say no is closer to how I can put it Matt
Matt and I started working together on music like four or five years four years ago I'm really bad with time by the way do by the way isn't it amazing how like hanging out with me and your New Zealand accent's coming back quite strong now is it a little bit oh my God yeah four years ago I love I should only be talking to
you people for me works for me you know I'm so sad about how I lost my accent and it's coming back I'm telling you yes they're going to really appreciate you at possible control next time you roll through they be like I told you Jenny she would should be back should be back she didn't forget yeah you and met from four years
ago oh yeah so we I was clueless back then I didn't know what working together with a different artist in a studio meant what it was and we just hung out in the studios for days and we came up with so many songs and some of them that I'm like holding on to because I want to put it out one day um he so he he called
it dips in slow motion there's a song that I like that we did together what's that one called can you tell us oh yeah it's called navy blue yeah it's a very sweet song that I like so you know we we made we made the song years back and he wanted to put it out was like finally you know let's go let's put the amazing work that we we did together out into
the world yeah yeah yeah amazing um DOI uh someone I'm sure that you can identify with not just from terms of as a fan but also the the amount of work DOI puts in the work when she shows up it's like the performances she takes pride in that and that is why her having her on my album means everything it's it's I don't
just love her music she really inspires me as a human being you know she's empowering and she's such a she's so pure in heart with her her craft and I admire that about her so yeah and also for you to have someone around you that is doing what you and your friends have have been doing that whole thing about like black pink or BTS
that sense and by the way generationally New Edition you know um The Supremes that sense of like we're here to do our best work our best creative work but but everyone's like oh man you know so much effort put into that and they focus on the effort but it's like no but focus on the result like it's so much better mhm
so before we shot the video together for extra L it was the week after the Grammys and I've just watched her performance and I saw the amazing greatness that she created and you have no idea how nervous I was for the next one week of our before our shoot I'm like oh my God press UPS yeah like I want I want to give her the same
amount of energy when we shoot together so yeah that was that I I like just remember that week of me being oh my God Like Straw struck and like I was getting butterflies before I met her for that but she's so chilled though right no we had the best time it was actually so fun I didn't realize how well we would blend together
like as a performer there was no we didn't even have to um tell each other anything like the director would give us uh information and what we have to do and we would just be like okay what have you learned have being not just part of a group but but moving in lots of different spaces and collaborating with
people and and wanting to perform at a high level and use your abilities and your skills and your gifts but also know that it's got to be it's got to be a collaboration it's got to be chem chemistry has to be right what's crucial to that for you how do you perform well with other people and not just at your own level I think that comes from being
in my group for the past 10 years um and also over the years in New Zealand um I've learned to uh collect information on people obviously growing up by myself at school I needed a way to protect myself and I think it was by um collecting the information around me so I don't do anything um that's going to kill the
vibe wow so just observing the room and fig at how to adapt at all times in order to just survive really really and then then on I was in the traine system for six years that's Survival right there and that's also what I learned and over the years of being black pink with the girls has taught me how to um
understand different people understand that everyone is different and that's fine and you just got to learn about them and or um anything and then just make it yours and embrace it and and deal learn how to deal with it on on your own way and that's got to be the core thought inside of me that helps me a better collaborator with with other
artists when you think about the young people who are going through a similar training experience now that you went through 10 years ago and I'm sure the system is better and I'm sure hope it's better and I hope I hope and I hope people are figuring out how to understand the experience in a more layered way it's not just like put in
the hours show up do you feel that like what you're doing what your friends are doing what Ros is doing what Lisa is doing J is doing by coming out making your own music coming back together that this is an important growth for the K-pop K-pop industry that that that you're showing people that there isn't an end that it's
not like hey black Pink's done its thing next MH no hang on this is a lifelong career does it feel that way do you have that in your mind I think that responsibility is definitely there inside of me or and all of us it's not just um the next comeback of music for us we we really believe that we are making a cultural move with what we're
doing and we want to leave a great Mark for for the history in in the best way possible so um it was important for all of us to really understand that responsibility I think that cuzz it's there's a lot it's it's a lot to be separated and then come back as a group and to even agree on something like that
is I I don't know if people understand but is a very big decision to make um for all growing up women you know but yeah we we pull through and and I'm excited for what's next for black pink too does your stomach turn a little bit in a good way when you think about coming back and doing and and that moving into that machine
I have faith in me to do it better this time so interesting what do you think you you'd like to improve during this time that you didn't you how would you like to do better this time I think I really want to be be present with it um less you know worrying less concerns and it's what's more fun than being on a stage as black pink like let me enjoy
this really just being more present about everything that's going to go on is probably um what's going to be different from before so glad to hear that fans around the world are going to just love that I think that will resonate more than you know from a black pink point of view in the few times we've touched on that that will really
resonate with fans um before you say goodbye a chance to to sort of communicate a little bit about that relationship and how do you maintain a healthy relationship with with your fans because blackpink fans love black think Jenny fans love you and yet you also know who you are away from that you talk
about that on the record there are songs about that to be honest I think it's still I treat it really sensitively when it comes to um my relationship with our fans and as much as the changes are going on with the group I think the fans are also they might also feel confused and um not lost but lost in the way maybe but I think
over throughout showing everyone's music and um our solo careers and then when when we show when we're back as black pink think that hopefully will build that rebuild that relationship that everyone might feel confused about because as long as the four of us love each other I think there is no reason for anyone to see us
separately but maybe in the way we might have that might I I do think that that might have confused the fans um so yeah it's it's a very it's a I I treat this relationship very delicately well you know all the worlds of stage men and women are merely players yes it's a play on player you're right that yep that let me be the
player hey it's been really fun hanging out with you I knew this was going to be fun I Knew Too you have no idea I was um I I wanted to have this talk and I just meet you you know and have this talk about this album especially with you because I've been a fan of your interviews for such a long time so it's been my honor to come and talk to you [Music] h