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This is freaking very exciting, man.
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>> What an amazing journey.
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What a life um that that you've created for yourself, for your family, um you know, investing in art and stuff that you're passionate about.
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But I've got to hand it to you. Chief of War is special.
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You know, as someone who, um grew up in New Zealand, and you know, my wife is half Maldi and um you know, I'm a very very obviously connected to the stories and to the legends and to the community and the culture and where it stems from.
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I really feel like, you know, you've really invested your heart and soul into this in a really really real way and it comes across.
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So, I want to congratulate you on that, bro.
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From my perspective, that's how I see it for sure.
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>> Man, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Uh, you know what?
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One of the beautiful things about this experience is like making this uh >> we've never had anything quite like this and uh being able to uh you know, our cast is all Polynesian.
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And so, what's really beautiful is like this is all about the unification of the Hawaiian Islands.
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And what it's really been is like this unification of Polynesia because we've got Mai, we got Tongen, we've got Sam, we got Mai and and just it's been this really amazing thing that we're all coming together to tell this, you know, the story of our ancestors.
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So, it's been a it's been something that, you know, wasn't really necessarily planned that way.
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It's just but it's been a it's been a just an amazing growth.
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even coming back to Hawaii and getting everyone really excited about it.
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I'm I'm very, you know, hopefully everything goes right and we can do some more and uh and and really, you know, just the next generation is what I'm excited about.
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You know, >> the story is big.
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And what I love about it, Jason, is that is that, you know, it's one of those moments where you know that money has been spent, but it's like people spend money on all the wrong things sometimes.
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And I feel like money's been spent to tell the big story in a big way.
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And it and it makes sense this time.
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>> I mean, listen, there's there's nothing bigger in my life.
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There's nothing bigger that I will ever do in my career. Like this is my culture.
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This is my this is the most important thing.
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It's a love letter to my people.
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And uh you know, you grow up as a little boy, you go like I love Moheakans. I love Perry Park.
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You know, you see these dances with wolves.
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And and I wanted to see something of of of of our people.
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And you know, we see them in paintings, but not, you know, our children know nothing of it.
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Our our our greatgrandfather has never seen these images.
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You know, these are in paintings.
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And so for everyone to see this, it's huge.
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And it's just going to like we we we're out the door. We kicked it open.
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And now I'm excited for everyone to come in and like be able to I'm excited for the next generation to be inspired.
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Like I was inspired by other cultures.
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So I I it's it's a really proud moment to to be here and be supported through like Apple being I I don't think I would ever be here if it wasn't for like C like >> and doing three years of that and like being with them from the beginning and they they just know how much love and I put into everything I do and then I pitched it to Zach and like >> it's such a wild idea but I pitched it during Dune 1 literally in my apartment in my in in the hotel.
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I pitched it with my with my partner and Zach was like, "Yes."
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And a year later, we had finished all the scripts >> and then we were getting into it, man.
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And now I'm here doing Dune 3. >> Amazing. >> I'm with my son. >> I know.
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I wanted to say, bro, congratulations to your son, man.
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It's Nicole Wolf because, you know, for him to be in in the third Dune and to play such a pivotal role in the storytelling for you as a father, cuz I'm a father, right?
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And and so you we I'm not quite not quite sure how old your son is. How old is he? He's >> he's he's 16. >> Yeah.
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So we have a 17-year-old and a 19year-old.
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So he so so his identity is forming in real time.
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And so for you to play two roles right now, which is is one is as a parent trying to give him space to figure out who he is.
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And then the other one for him to be also leaning into the craft that you love.
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What a fascinating paradox.
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>> Bro, I've never wanted him to do it and he's always wanted to do it.
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I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no."
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and and then I just kind of he's just good and I I he he did it on his own and I didn't want to support him at all in this.
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But the truth of it is like now it's I'm just I'm just I'm just terrified.
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I don't want my I don't want my kid in this business.
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>> It's a tough business. >> You can't stop. You can't stop it.
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But the truth of it is he will you want your children to be better than you and this kid is going to be he's just he's he's got all he's built to do this and I and I'm you know I'm so proud of him and I he did it all on his own and I and I can't believe it but I'm it's it's the weirdest thing and I'm so it's it's scary >> when they land in that space where it becomes their own.
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You owe it to them to get out of the way. You just >> Yeah.
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Well, that's the best part is like I completely stay out of the way and Denise is just loves him and and and he just works with him.
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I I'm not teaching him anything.
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I don't even know how to teach acting.
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You know who he's really been with is Cliff Curtis. >> Yeah.
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>> And he's just Cliff is just such a rooted He knows everything. He's my idol. That's who I look up to.
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And I I' I've learned how to act through just like sucking.
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It's just trial and error.
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I've had 27 years of like making bad and now I know what not to do.
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I don't and he's like he now is starting here and he's just like dude I've had to work to get to here and and I don't want him to go through what I had to go through. >> It's so crazy, bro.
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I feel like I know you and and my pas nearly crossed several times.
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We were staying in the same hotel in Oakland one time.
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I missed you down in the foyer.
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You were saying what's up to the All Blacks?
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I missed you by 5 minutes.
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I was totally going to like photo I was totally going to photobomb that.
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And then and then and then I and then I saw you in the snake pit of a Metallica show.
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I mean, who would miss you with the snake pit of a Metallica show? What the hell?
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And I was like going to come up and introduce myself.
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But again, it's a Metallica show.
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I mean, it's really nice to just connect with you and say what's up. And oh, hang on.
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Who's walking in the building?
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Oh, Shabuzzi's in the building.
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I think you know this guy.
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>> I think you know this guy, buddy. >> I think Hey, man. What's going on? >> What's going on? >> Good to see you, man.
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Shabuzi is going to join us later on.
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He's going to do his own radio show.
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But I think you guys know each other, right?
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You know, >> yeah, I heard you on this.
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I just wanted to say what's up.
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>> How did you guys first meet?
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What was the What's the connection?
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>> We haven't met yet, but we got a lot of mutual friends. We're in the old Harley.
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So, >> tons of mutual friends. >> Yeah. Tons, man.
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But, uh, I'm building a 41 knuckle, man.
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I just wanted to tell you that.
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It's going to be pretty sick. >> No way. >> Yeah, man. Yeah. With C. >> Perfect. >> Yeah, man.
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Just want to say what's up, brother.
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Man, man, I love that hat. >> Good year, brother. All right. My man. >> Peace, man. Thanks, man.
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I'll see you later, brother. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. >> All right. >> See you in a minute.
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I'll come join you on the air a little bit later on the show. Beautiful.
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What's a 41 knuckle, bro?
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>> Uh, it's just lingo, bro.
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He's he's just building a really cool cho he's building a really cool chopper. I just I love bikes.
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That's my like my main passion.
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So yeah, he's building a really cool but he's really really a really good year.
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>> Hey, before I let you go, man, I also wanted to say um you know, I know it was an emotional night in Birmingham for you and everybody in attendance.
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I wish I could have been there as well.
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Um you know, I I have my own feelings about Aussiey's passing.
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I'm terribly sad for family and friends, but also there's a part of me that thinks that he walked off that stage and just transitioned into the next life, which is kind of incredible in its own in its own way.
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Um, what was that experience like, you know, for you in Birmingham for the Black Sabbath tribute and to be with Aussie and be around it?
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>> I get emotional about it. >> Yeah.
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I mean, I get emotional about it, man.
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just like a it's uh he's he's such a massive impact on so many people's lives and uh it's just so weird cuz I I just never even thought I'd even have I just wanted to go to the show and then you're hosting it.
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I've never hosted anything in my life. I was scared.
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It's just like the most important thing I've ever done.
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I mean, honestly, there's nothing more important as far as like work-wise where I'm invited to host the greatest metal show on earth and my heroes are there and I'm friends with him and I'm just like, "Oh man, this is just crazy."
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So, >> I I'm happy he >> I was worried he may not make it there and he did and and I just I I I saw it in his face and it was beautiful, man.
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He's just uh it was what a way to go out, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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That's how I feel as well, man.
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We we're going to miss him.
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But but again, what a beautiful >> the best thing is like yeah, he lives on with all of us.
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I mean, I we can only wish to have even an ounce of impact that that guy had.
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I mean, he's such a >> what what a sense of what a sense of humor.
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What an amazing human being.
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Like I just there's not enough good things.
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I like feel like he's like my uncle, you know?
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He's like the great uncle that taught you all the bad >> You know, you you know, you're um you you absorb life in such a in such a unique way.
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And I I love the the way that you execute on what inspires you and that you don't internalize it, but you find a way to share it with people in your work and screen.
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Um and and in your love of music, um you know, it, man. We love you.
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When you're in LA and you got some spare time, just roll through the studio and we'll play some records and we'll kick it.
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Nothing more than that, man. >> Oh, man. It would be so cool.
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>> We'll just get to know each other through songs.
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>> I would love I would love to come in, man, cuz I have such a beautiful collection of music and it's everything that propels me.
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Like even when I write like it would just be wonderful.
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It's like what a great place the new studio just be come in and play like our favorite music and >> share more than that.
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Some people pull up they pull up. Yeah, I know.
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It's the best thing you can do is like some people pull a chair up.
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I pull a goddamn picnic table up and bring all your friends and I just love to be able to share, you know. >> Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Definitely. All right, man.
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Listen, it's really good to finally connect with you, man.
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And uh I you know, greater than I could have even imagined as first impressions going, man.
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and we're going to pay our respects of course to the late great Aussie Osborne and play the song that really you actually probably could have put a ribbon on this and put it on the shelf and said it's perfect. You can walk away now.
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But thankfully they didn't because without that we would have got Metallica and everything that's been inspired by it and then to some degree the wonderful Jason Mamora as well man that walk in black Sabbath fan that takes it into the set and shares it with the people. God damn what a legend. Good to see you. Thank you.
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>> Hey man, I love you man. Thank you very much bro. >> Love you too. Take care, brother. Bye-bye.