we got the ultimatum of going on our first tour in a back of a van in Europe or getting to go to university and we chose the tour and there was no there was no question between all three of us like this is what we're doing yeah yeah amazing do you remember much about that tour [Music] no there was a time when people would be
like oh man you know albums like and I would always have the same answer cuz it just kind of blew my mind that was even a ation like I love playlist Jamie and I love songs and I love music in all its forms but I was like you're asking the wrong people has anyone asked the artists whether albums truly matter and when I listen to an
album like this or or any album I fall in love with that I know heart and soul was put into it's not even a question it gets made because you have to make it it gets made because you have desire to make it I don't even think you wanted to finish this record there were moments yeah it doesn't sound like it's me because it's
flowing so free out of you and all of the experience that you've developed over the course of your life today met this Instinct and it's just perfect man congrats thank you so much I love it thanks for joining us man it's been a minute um you've been busy how was New York I mean the follow on from from
London you're out here doing the same thing the the club night's such a a beautiful way to just keep it exciting for yourself every night and get out of that routine and the banality of the same yeah stuff it's really special and it's so exhausting and like the lead up to it is uh I'm kind of regretting
doing it and then as soon as I get into the club yeah and you just feel the energy from the people and I get to feel comfortable in a space that I've built yeah it's like it's just better than any other gig yeah you got to work to get the Comfort right it's the thing we we all expect to be comfortable at the end
of the day it only comes almost as a form of relief in a weird way um people often misunderestimate or underestimate um infrastructure we show up we pay we present our ticket we have a great night yeah we know it's not our job to think about what went into it or what goes on after it you really had a firsthand
account of that now I know you've dabbled in this with the XX before as well um you know what is the sort of most challenging part beyond the fun what's the thing that surprises you every time you decide to take on a challenge like this building out a club night and doing all that I mean personally for me it's like a very
social experience which is not my usual so I'm kind of pushing myself to do these things that I'm not particularly good at but it's it's always beneficial I get to meet loads of people artists and fans um and just get a better connection with like everything that's going on around me cuz it's quite easy at this
point in my career to be able to shut myself off turn up at a festival and just play and leave so what's motivating you to keep pushing yourself to do that because you're not wrong I know artists who have earned the right to do that and they don't push themselves to be soal because they don't have to it wasn't in
their natural Warehouse anyway they did what they needed to do and they're back where they feel that they belong and yet you could do that and yet you push yourself to know I I want to know what is out there outside of my own experience I think ever since I started there's been a just a drive to like I've always feel like something
everything could be better even that's why it took so long for me to finish this album because I I finished like eight times and then there was always this bit in me that felt like it could be one better and um I think the social element of this makes me better at my job as well and just being introduced to
new people new music young people making music um it's very beneficial for me yeah and it feels rewarding after the fact no it's a part of the job I mean you know it you're totally right allowing yourself to experience that energy m introversion is a term I think people really got attached to in the
early days of you making music with with Oliver and Romy it was like ah you know the biggest introverted band in the world you know it's like headlining festivals and it's all so quiet and so tucked away and I think you know shyness or a desire to sort of just I think a lot of that just people forgot how young
you were I mean you were teenagers yeah it's crazy and I and I I think we weren't really thinking about that we were just thinking about the presentation and what you were doing to survive I'm sure they influenced each other I'm sure them introversion was a part of it but it must be been must must be one of the great Joys at this point
in your life to be in your 30s with your friends and see how that is no longer not only a tag but actually the reality like you're living life you know what I mean yeah I don't know I mean I still feel all the those introverted things and I very much like to seclude myself when I can it's just about finding the
right balance I can definitely drive myself crazy by being to on my own and then my musical ideas just bouncing around inside my own head and I only have myself to answer to which is a really great place to be in if you have the luxury to do it but you can also go insane so you've been making this music
on your own you really haven't had anyone in the room with you any time no pretty much I mean there's a few more collaborations on this record um which was very helpful to get things moving when I when I it became a bit like difficult when I was on my own and uh that was just another thing that pushed me as well so when you were young and
I'm I mean it's not like you became introverted after you made music you know it's a sense of like being on your own and feeling comfortable in your own environment um I'd imagine that music really was the only source of out that was the outlet was the way for you to not go completely crazy as a kid I
mean I I know kid you know somewhere very close to my heart found music because they they struggled socially to fit in and um it's it's it's just been the most remarkable medicine and magic for them it was very natural to to me to be doing music I basically stopped going to school to do music instead in my
bedroom technically a Dropout they let me do my exams which was nice of them but I basically wasn't there very much none of us were to be honest um cuz the music was taking over and it just felt way more natural and it was cathartic and it was also a way to be in Social spaces when I was a teenager and and
like not actually have to talk to anybody I was behind the decks that's why we that's why we do it that's why we do it that's why we do it everyone thinks we the qu the you know kings queens and the of the party is not the case at all we do we just want to get away from the party yeah it's so interesting to me I never knew that
party of history and I and create me a fun misunderstanding but it sounds like because the XX was ding to connect and you hadn't done with your actual mandatory educ or your education process the conversations had to be had with school heads and whatnot that listen you know we're not trying to we're not trying to sh our responsibilities here
but at the same time we're working we're actually working musicians now so what would those conversations like because you hear about that during the Disney ages of like oh you're going to be hom schooled now CU you're on Nickelodeon or whatever and we've seen these stories over and over again this is not that
this is like we're signed to excel beg you know to to what was called Young Turks now young Excel this is a real opportunity do you understand that and will you support us so we can do both interesting for an education environment to be put in that well I don't think they really got asked the question my my
parents were just constantly called by the school being told that I wasn't there right they were luckily quite lenient cuz they could see what what I was doing was more important to me um and then we got the ultimatum of going on our first tour in a back of a van in Europe or getting to go to university and we chose the tour and there was no
there was no question between all three of us like this is what we're doing yeah yeah amazing do you remember much about that tour no it's all a blur it's all a blur I mean I'm not surprised it was so fast um does it feel fast now when you when you find yourself on the on the eve of releasing in waves when you think about
you know all of the journeys and experiences and Adventures you've had today does it feel like a blur the whole thing it feels like it's ramping up a bit but I think since the pandemic and I got a chance to stop and reflect on everything and realize how much of it was a blur MH and how amazing it was all
but I really can remember much of my 20s and I've wanted to um find more of that calmness and Stillness and being present in my career after that um because it made me very happy so I'm trying to find that balance between still doing all the really fun stuff and playing everywhere and making loads of music but also
having time to just like reflect on it and enjoy it can I ask you what that experience has been like and um what sort of interesting points along the way have you been able to adopt and and adapt to in order to to maintain some balance right because it's a discipline you have to make a decision
a conscious decision that I'm not going to live like that anymore is fun and is heady as it is I'm not actually recalling retaining anything and my body is probably storing stuff I don't want it to store so how am I going to how am I going to become present which is the the goal of Life yeah how did you sort
of approach that from a methodical way rather than just kind of like an ideological way cuz it's you know what I mean well I'm still trying to work it out yeah but I mean simple things that were like in the pandemic in the lockdowns the only thing you could do was go for a walk and now that is I still try and do that just in on a day
off like go do something very simple like that and not have a phone yeah yeah try and use my phone as little as possible I've been surfing a lot and that sort of that Stillness that you get out there just waiting for waves people say it's like meditation it's like meditation and it you know it doesn't go
hand in hand with making music because actually you come out of the water and you feel very content and you don't really need to do anything else that day um so I had to like find the balance between those two things as well that's the other thing right everyone I know who surfs in particular it occurs in
snowboarding too but it's seasonal unless you can chase it everyone I know who surfs says that that once it really becomes a part of your actual Essence M it's very hard to not do it all the time yeah like someone even said to me once make sure you got a lot out of your system before you try yeah that's a good point in terms of
like going out there and and surfing now you feel comfortable out in the ocean enough to be able to to enjoy it rather than feel like you're still learning it because it's one of those things it's pretty T pretty tough to pick up yeah I've been doing it for like 10 years now so you got it yeah I just I'm obsessed
you got this I'm obsessed with where you made this record I don't know if it was the in the place where the picture was taken um with the view looks like it might be London or some it could be anywhere but is a view oh that yeah that's my studio that's Studio it's amazing it's amazing thanks you should come check it out when you're in London
thank you for the invitation I will 100% love to do that it immediately made me not not only want to come and see it but also want to make music it was inspiring to me I thought my gosh I want to get my music I want to make music today M it's just an incredible spot so just let's just talk a little bit about about the
environment what it's like to create in there and and obviously process is Magic but any essence of of what the days or the nights are like in there and what it feels like when something is starting to take shape and like I always like it when I get 50 percentage of something I know it's something and then I just Loop
it for two hours sometimes I just stare out the window if there's a window I'll just stare out the window cuz I know it's on the right path and whatever's going to come at me is going to inspire it to be better does that make sense yeah I definitely I do that all the time and part of it because like I know it's
in a good place and I'm scared to touch it to in case you know it gets worse which definitely does happen to everybody where did the album start for you I know that's a hard question to answer because sometimes they just are but was there a moment when and even if you started other songs where you felt
like okay I've got the start of something now body of work I know will reveal itself there's a track on the album called daffodil oh what a amazing song thanks it's with Kelsey l so I have to remember you don't that Compliments are not for to absorb them so I'll try to limit them as much as I can but you do know my
reputation so yeah it's with Kelsey and John panda bear originally it was just with Kelsey Lou and it was something that I was making the first thing I started making in the lockdown after I'd had some time not doing anything and uh it was all over text basically Lou was sending me um voice notes and I was making that piece of music and it was
the first thing that I'd felt that I'd made that that kind of had elements in it that I thought could run through the album what were they the elements the spoken word stuff the storytelling and the connection that I had with Lou as a person anyway cuz I've known her for a long time and the collaboration element
that was helping me push things forward without having to think too much about myself on my own cuz there was trust the trust was there yeah it was just that then I like after that that initial demo I I managed to make a bunch of other things in quite quick succession and it felt like maybe finally an album was on
the horizon do you feel like you're making dance music when you're making an album I know it seems like a strange question because people will listen to this album and dance to it and go and see you perform in environments where dance music thrives and you are 100% in aen part now of this modern culture that
has given us so much decade after decade where The Outsiders go to let go and be free but do you see it that way because it's still a genre it's still an environment that has expectations of tempo expectations the list is long does it matter to you that it's dance music or is it just music with this album it mattered to me
more because when I was when it was in lockdown I was starting to get excited about the idea of playing shows again and I was excited about this new music I was making and I wanted to be able to play it so it had to fit in the way that I perform which is DJing also my favorite thing to do in the studio is
just to dance around on my own so it usually ends up with some kind of dancable element to it is it tough sometimes to not feel like you're covering old ground or falling into some of those beautiful things we love about the music that inspired us and raised us especially if we keep it in a certain culture in a certain environment that
like it's important that it's not like okay I know when I put that in there it makes me feel like I did when I heard that record 10 years ago mhm but I want to make sure that I'm not crossing the line into something it feels like it's almost a Pastiche of what I love I mean anytime I've tried intentionally to make
a piece of music that is an idea that I've had or is based on something that's I've heard that has inspired me it ends up really boring or like a pasti wow that's crazy okay well that's a a beautiful realization because that just removes an enormous amount of potential disasters yeah but but it also creates a
much narrower environment to be inspired because inspiration comes from everything and music can be it or or your heroes or things that inspired you as a kid but it sounds to me like you you're narrowing it down to something that's got to feel singular to you in a way and it's usually something it's quite hard to
explain but it's just a feeling trust me I know I've spent 35 years trying to get the answer I accept it's never going to come yeah but please give me your version of it I'd love to add well I don't know it's just a gut feeling I guess and it's usually like being in a flow State and following all the
mistakes as the music is happening and just making sure that you're not trying to drive it too much and moving fast is usually the key execution is it hard for you to finish though yeah but this time I've enjoyed finishing this album more than I've enjoyed finishing anything usually it's a bit of a slog and this
time I one of the reasons why it took so long is because I just was having so much fun with the finer details working out the track list so it really felt like an album it's perfect the track list is absolutely perfect I mean that's what I meant like it's it start to finish it's a it's a time capsule you know it is a document for Club it's like
you put them next to the great it's the great albums that we all go back and listen two decades out there 10 five years later we go oh man that is the experience what's it like listening to it from the point of view of somebody who who's a DJ but probably doesn't find themselves naturally on the Dance Floor
having the the euphoria that feeling the euphoria that others feel when they hear your music you know it's an interesting relationship between the people who create the you for and the people who experience it they're not often the same people m I actually love going raving because of the darkness and because of
the fact that no one cares about you or where you are or what you're doing yeah and it's um I think you can have quite profound thoughts even in a altered state on the dance floor M and you can just have a lot of fun and it's I find it one of the most inspiring things is to go out clubbing clearly because it's
all over your record man which brings us to these illegal Raves I guess they're illegal that were going on in London on on on these barges and on these boats which I knew nothing about cuz I don't live there anymore but man it made me wish I had yeah I mean this is the stuff that people listening to this and
watching this won't know anything about because they went around in the ' 80s early 90s even in the early 2000s when these waves were happening and it was going down and there right the whole the whole goal was to try to avoid getting shut down but you wanted them to try the cat and mouse was sort of a
thing right can you just tell us how you found out about these what was going on because you know it just sounds like great night yeah I think uh I don't know just from people where of mouth um and I think these sorts of raves were happening in Hackney all the time anyway but maybe less frequent but after the
lockdown eased and people were allowed to go outside a bit more then you could just go and cycle down the canal near where I live and there'd be like a rave on a riverbank a rave in a barge like every 10 minutes and you could spend all night doing that and you could just see no door policy as long as it's not
overpacked you're good sometimes you had to have a boat to get there like to the other side of the river this is brilliant and you'd pay a guy to F you across just seeing like the fact that everybody was so excited to be back together yeah it really reinstalled the reason why I loveed the music and that's all over the album The Spirit of that
yeah I think so yeah the sense of like um what we'd missed I heard life got played three and a half thousand times in glastenbury the thing about these big festivals in particular glastenbury is there's is a couple of ones M someone always gets the Montage at the end of the coverage on BBC normally from the
other stage with the sun going down or maybe a headliner like a blur tender or something or the universal someone's getting the Montage which means you kind of as a band or an artist sort of captured Glaston bre's Heart Right someone always makes a song which just continues to Echo everywhere from the
campsites to the tents to The Unofficial tents to that Rafe to that ra to the pop-ups to this and I just heard it was life I just heard life was that song I'm assuming you were there I was did you hear it yourself moving around uh I mean that that was that's a real blur but um so the answer is yes just to qualify my
just to qualify my statement answer is yes I'll take the years yeah what was it like moving around there knowing that you had this body of work and that you'd captured the spirit of community again and then you in probably the biggest community in the Arts and just to to have that moment just SK there for a
second what was it like to see for you glass I mean I was so thrilled that I got to play on the Friday and that I got to bring my friends out and the show went really well yeah Friday is the joy right cuz then you just like the hook yeah and then I just spent the rest of the weekend doing GL and be like you meant to do it and yeah just walking a
lot of walking and seeing lots of things I didn't know what it was and staying up way too late and yeah it was awesome just having an amazing time were your friends from the XX there as well yep amazing so you move around as friends that's what you are you're you're like family you also have this band that
everybody loves and yet we've all completely accepted and acknowledged now after a little bit of a tantrum that you're going to do it the way you're going to do it and that there's nothing to be scared of when it happens it will happen just let us just do our so how rewarding has it been to get away from
something that a lot of artists don't get away from when they present something we love and then decide to go live a different life even with the potential of coming back together we just don't leave them alone it's like we mean well but we're like oh yeah it's great but when are you guys getting back together I just don't I feel like
everyone's cool now and I and about that does don't you agree um or do you still get it wherever you go I get it you still get it yeah I suppose that's better to get it than not get it yeah it's nice that people are excited about it um and it's not like it's not it's not too much it's just a nice amount of
people want us to do more stuff and we are we have been in the studio like one week a month for a few months recently and um it's just nice to be back together doing doing what we do it's very natural I've worked with a lot of people in the last few years and the chemistry that we have is just noticeably so different um it's yeah
it's hard to explain yeah you don't need to cuz we hear it in the music and also you know you don't fall into that rle Collective role in your life at at at such a young age unless even without realizing it in the moment why would you that it's something precious you got you got to hold on to right yeah I mean I
think I've only just realized it which sounds crazy no it's always difficult to make an album and especially when it's a compromise between three people and again after this time of us all doing separate things coming back together I've realized just to embrace it and enjoy it and like I mean I'm I think I'm
enjoying the difficult the difficulty of it as well now which is nice yeah cuz maturity allows you to actually approach that from a point of view of like Positive Solutions and not ego like ah but what about my vision it's like no no cool we're serving the same vision it's interesting how individually to me as a
fan all of you have kind of continued to sort of find a broader meeting place you would this was the XX before and now it's the XX but you're still in the same Circle it's not like you know Oliver went off and hideous bastard was like thrash metal record like it's it's a beautiful one of my favorite albums and
it's such a beautiful honest amazing album but it still has the essence of you and Ro and Romy in it and and and and romy's like she's full-blown dance know DJ Diva spectacular so how has it been kind of coming back together with all these different influences and different lessons and different things that you've learned because you were all
kind of sharing the same one or two things before yeah and and it just must broaden the pallet of what you're making I mean it must be feel like it's so wide open for you now it does and we are all in like very different places mentally and in our lives like outside of music so it is more of a challenge
but I think that that was kind of the point of us all going out and doing this and now it's about bringing it back in and that the challenge is going to make the album what it is and I think going to make it the best one yet but it's going to be more effort I think you should just start in hide park or somewhere like I'm
not even kidding like I I know that that's like almost that that could come across as offensive cuz I'm just throwing such a big number or big thing at you yeah I don't mean it from that perspective I mean it from the point of view of like what you've all done as people in terms of the music you've
given us and the joy you've given us has only just added and added so much value to what the XX already is I just I just I see so much Goodwill waiting I see so many people waiting for that to all come together that's a nice thought it would be amazing I think you know I think just start somewhere let let it just be one
big celebration and you can build it however you want for the rest of it but just give everyone a chance to do it once with you as many people as possible in that one time to say like we missed this missed you or 100 thousand of you anyway that's a stupid idea can we talk about the collaboration on the um on the
actually no it's an awesome idea I'm going retract that you should totally do that um let's talk about weighted all night and and and what it was like to actually have them on your album was that something that was started for the X did you come in was it specifically you knew that you wanted it to be for you how did that Dynamic work when you
kind of got both cooking I always knew that I wanted them on the album just cuz it feels it would feel very unnatural not to have them on it they're the reason that I can do all of this that song actually started out as a demo that me and Romy wrote when we were in La like writing songs for pop stars and we
just wrote a bunch of songs and spent a few weeks here and then there was a little like ad lib at the end that is the chorus now and I I it had been around for years and I remembered that I loved it turned that into the chorus and then asked Romy to write a new verse and then asked Oliver to so it was actually
very fragmented compared to how we write as a band but that was kind of cool as well cuz again like the point of doing this was to do things in a new way yeah how was writing for pop stars uh it's fun it's really nice to be able to do that sort of thing and then go home and make music for yourself again cuz it
feels even more meaningful yeah and you I guess it's a new a whole new discipline of letting go because once the song is sent and even if the song has been accepted or or cut as you know there's a thousand people or hundred people between that beautiful moment of inspiration whether it comes out have there been moments like I've heard
hundreds of times from my friends where someone sends you back something and you're like I just it's yours now but my it's not mine anymore my name's not on this I just doesn't feel like me anymore it seems that production is working at the moment there's so many producers involved and it gets sent through so
many different stages that I just go into it without any preciousness at all yeah which is helpful and it kind of did help me for a bit in just like getting stuff done even for my own music sometimes I'll talk to an actor friend of mine or whatever and we'll talk about a movie or whatever and they'll be like I hate that
phone but they're in it and when they made it they loved the experience of of shooting it but then it went through the edit it went through the director it went through the studio and by the time it came out they were like man it just wasn't what we set out to make and it is but it's cool but they seem very sort of
okay with that right even when they're disappointed they've detached enough from it because they know their role and I think it I think it spares people from being hurt when critics in particular would say like you know Jamie XX was wonderful in the film but it's a terrible terrible film you you'd be like
well I won yeah music we can't think like that that's why being a Critic is such a hard road to walk when you're a music critic cuz you're really tell one person like hey what you think and what you feel sucks it's like so like does does it get like that when you're writing for other people and like have
there been things that have come out you're like I don't like it even though my names on it I don't actually like it I'm not ask you for names but just just just just you know yes 100% that happens and actually with time everything I've ever done I feel slightly about that feel slightly like that because it's
like it's almost like a reading an old diary whenever you hear it so I I don't really like listening back to anything wow when was the last time you listened to an XX record um a long long time ago a long long time ago probably when the last XX album came out W so years mhm I mean you get the you get the man
your half of the trade is beautiful and you get to express yourself and do it all you know but we do get a half of it we do get to to love it forever and I do sometimes yeah it does kind of sadden me a little bit sometimes artist can't have that experience you know what I mean it's almost bit of sweet yeah that when it you have to let
it go you really have to let it go yeah I had that realization making this album actually and that's why I spent so long doing it because I was really enjoying the process and I realized that like before I i' got into a head space where I was trying to make music for you know as a means to an end like because it
needs to be done needs to be finished and people need to hear it but then I realize that after it's out of my hands I never listen to it and I try not to look at any reviews or not on social media so yeah yeah it really is like non-existent to me after that so I've got to enjoy the actual making of it the
only feedback you really get is when you see people move to it MH so in these club nights man I mean I I I I was getting various reports from New York everyone I know went to New York I couldn't go um everyone was telling me what you were playing or not playing and it sounds like you been quite selective
from the album in terms of what you were dropping and what you weren't dropping yeah well it was it's all very spontaneous and I was just going on how the crowd was feeling and I was also like because it's a space where feels like they're with you if if you've done it if you've done it properly um you can I could get away with not playing too
much of my own stuff and people would still be in it yeah had a DJ man I mean you got to read the room right I mean so let's talk about reading the room from from your perspective and your individual experience as a as a DJ is somebody who goes and plays music and wants to give everyone a great night
that has lots of different twists and turns and an overall picture how do you read the room how do you do it and stay focused on what you're playing like what are what are the signals what are the signs what are you looking for when you when when you're looking to either change switch stay how do you do it I think like a lot
of it is just down to feeling sometimes I don't even have to be like looking at the room to to know it's just about sort of how long a particular Groove has been going for me at least because I play quite eclectically I like to get people into like sort of a a mode and then switch them out of it and can see if
that Mode's working or Not by looking at the crowd but most of the time I can just feel it because I've done it a lot who are your favorite DJs well France K played in New York and it was like enlightening can we talk a little bit about what what you what you got from that experience of watching one of your
I mean let's just call him a hero right play knowing that this is your environment too you got to do it too so you know you're on the field with one of your favorite players and you're watching them work the ball whilst you're on the field like what what did you get out of it I think because I've especially with the floor line up in
London and and here and in New York I've got to see a lot of people DJing in the last few months and it's all been amazing and there's like the current trend is quite fast music and um very bass driven and you know some of it's not like that Soulful we're talking 135 and up yeah and I love that I play a lot
of that stuff but you're right it's got brings a franticness to it yeah unless you get to drama and bass and then you get so fast you can half time and it becomes Soulful again but you're right seeing Fran come in for two two and a half hours and just like unify the room and play everything from Rock to like jungle
garage um new break Bey stuff and disco and like all of his old edits it just like reminded me how good it can be what do you think was motivating him that night what was he searching for what was what was what was driving his selections well I don't know we had a really good chat for like an hour before he played and that was also
super inspiring and just talking about the different waves of dance music that have happened over his long career yeah and how he DJs now compared to how he used to what were the differences between young franois and now franois well the way he plays now when he's like in his element is he has eight track um
stems on on on each turntable essentially so he's mixing whilst remixing each track which just mad he showed me his setup it's so fun amazing he's really got into the The Depths and doing something different that nobody else is doing yeah yeah truly creative experience every single night and also like like you say I mean he said
something really brilliant that I always remember before which was you know letting the mistakes happen like like letting them flow just just working with the mistakes and just using them as a reason to iron it out I mean that's he's going to have that all the time that's going to be his night every night's
going to be like Oh What a Beautiful mistake oh what a terrible mistake but on to the next thing spontaneity came up a lot in our chat it's definitely a lot about being able to do that and being able to know the record so well that you can be spontaneous and feel confident about it which is something that
unfortunately at the end of this club run will have to be compromised because you'll have to put a show on we don't have to do anything but you probably want to put a show on and I guess the idea is to make it as spontaneous as possible but also you know do you want to make a show and and if you want to
make a show that requires cues and lights and beats and things like that so does that excite you now that you're getting this kind of nightclub experience under your belt and you're seeing what it's like to just be purely spontaneous it does I I love that I get to do both I love playing for massive crowds festivals and I get to bring
dancers with me and the people that work um like my crew the the lighting people and the sound people they all aware that I want to be able to be spontaneous still so there's nothing there's no cues and they just know my music inside out so whenever I play something of mine they can to do something but it's all
very spontaneous and I think they enjoy it as well do you enjoy the touring yeah yeah I do even as someone who likes to spend a lot of time on their own and has a beautiful Studio overlooking so yeah well again it's about balance um and it's all definitely going to get a bit more crazy over the next year but I am
looking forward to it okay so you dance around in your studio listening to music I'm sure you listen to a lot of people's music but I'm sure you listen to your own why would you not dance to it if you weren't Happ you know if you love it you dance to it what song on the album that you dance to the most when you were
making it and then you felt you really kind of got you moving in was there one that really jumped out that just gave you the sense of like man like I'm so happy right now I think the last track on the album falling together I'd had that piece of music uh for a while and I really liked all the elements of it and I thought it worked
but I always felt like there was something missing and then I was working on a contemporary dance piece for unad doti which involved a 25 minute long monologue and she sent me the demo of the monologue just talking into her iPhone and for people who don't know who un dark is could you elaborate a little
bit she is a choreographer and Dancer she made a music video for me for I don't know and her shows are just amazing and weird and um they involve like kind of acting and dancing and spoken word and um they're super eclectic as well so I've got to know her over the years she helped me with finding dancers for my show and
choreographing things for my shows and she made that music video for me me um she's super inspiring just to talk to and even the inflections in her accent are just like is there something musical about it so I ended up using the voice note that she sent me over the piece of music that I'd already made and just
cutting it from down from 25 minutes to 3 and a half minutes and uh there was just a moment when I was in that studio in SoHo I was looking out the window and it did feel very emotional and that felt like uh I was close to finishing yeah that emotion man when it comes up and it's good when it's like it's it's a
happy thing and it's like it feels like all the sad emotions you've had but it's just some for some reason you just can't stop laughing and smiling it's just such an incredible experience it's a great it's a great thing that's the whole that's at the center of it all um what's when you look back on this album and I
know it's it's hard to do it's only just so just finished and you're out playing you know you're getting ready to put it out and but but in the future you think when you look back on this album what will be the sort of overarching kind of memories or the overarching feelings you'll get from this period in your life
like what will be the things you you you hope you'll remember about making this record my friends probably I don't know I feel like I've Consolidated my life a lot more and I've just got the people around me that I are the most important and that I love and they are also super inspiring to me and we kind of work in
similar circles and we always weirdly end up in the same parts of the world even though we will have to travel for work and um I love it and it just like it brings brings me joy and it makes me love my life I feel very lucky yeah it's a beautiful thing man i' I've had such a good time talking with you and catching
up with you and um you know I've I'm really am am grateful for the way that you and your friends have chosen to not only live your lives but put it through music and just keep giving us reasons to like I love Med a I think it's brilliant album you know and yeah I love hide Bast and I love everything that you do I'm
excited for the reunion of the band I use that word really lovingly you know the reunification of the band as a creative unit um but we'll talk then yeah about that we will in the meantime thanks for coming in Jamie and thanks for This brilliant album I love it thank you so much thanks for having me [Music]