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Hey, what's going on everybody?
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For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Jacob Elordi.
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He's an actor you know from his roles as Nate Jacobs in the Emmy Award-winning mega-hit HBO series Euphoria.
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His latest project though is the film Deep Water, an Adrian Lyne directed psychological thriller set to hit Hulu on March 18th.
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Jacob Elordi, welcome to the show.
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Thanks for having me, man.
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So, you know, we've had a lot of sauces from Australia in the lineup before. Many of them mega hots.
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How deeply growing up did you explore what seems to be a robust hot sauce subculture down under? You know what?
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I had absolutely nothing to do with the hot sauce subculture, strangely enough.
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Um I have an uncle who's like a fairly large man.
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Um and he sort of rough as guts, he's from the mines.
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And he loves He's not rough as guts, he's a good bloke, but um he loves hot sauce.
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So, whenever we were in like a small town somewhere, there'd be like a little old lady that made some extreme hot sauce and we'd always have to get it for him and bring it back.
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So, that would be the closest I came to it. Oh, it's on the wing. It's already there. even have to apply it. Mhm. Heat with hot.
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Yeah, you can really tell.
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So, your latest project Deep Water marks the return of Adrian Lyne, the creative force behind films like Indecent Proposal, Flashdance, Jacob's Ladder, just to name a few.
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What is it about Deep Water that makes you nostalgic for films of the past?
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You had an interesting quote where you said that you hope that it's the rebirth of these kinds of films again.
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Yeah, I feel like there was an era, um, especially in the '80s when we sort of coming out of the '60s and '70s of cinema with this sort of Easy Rider, you know, those kind of films.
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And then we went sort of back into this studio genre, which was like, you know, psychological, psychosexual thriller through the '80s and '90s.
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And I feel like it felt like growing up to me like there was one of those coming out every week.
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And even though they weren't like the greatest films, they had something like iconic about them, like almost something noir-y about them, sort of like that era of cinema.
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And I feel like we've gone so far down another end now with everything being fantastic and large and green screen, that I was like excited to get back into like just sort of something psychological that's still entertaining, you know? Okay.
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I'm feeling a little bold. Oh, confident.
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Yeah, that I feel that I love the That's not the way to go. Yeah, okay.
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It's a little like It's definitely like Yeah.
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I've had a few people give me give me I was I was talking to Halsey last night and she was like she was like, you know, take tiny tiny bites, like don't put your fingers on your face.
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And the first thing I've done is just go and then like go to touch my head.
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Be careful around the eyes. That's where I'll be. All right. On you, you know.
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Be careful around the eyes.
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So, we had David Chang on the show.
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He had lots of nice things to say about Australia, but he did bury the burgers, calling them an abomination because Australians put beets on them.
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And I think that it's only fair that we offer you our platform to respond.
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Do you have a defense for the Australian burger? Absolutely.
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I think Australians make the best burgers in the world.
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Um because they put everything on them.
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Like a burger in Australia isn't just It's happening now.
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The burger The burger in Australia The burger in Australia is like eggs and bacon and avocado and then a patty and then like six cheeses and then a mayonnaise.
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And I think that's incredible.
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I think the more the more the merrier on a on a burger.
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That's an absurd statement.
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I don't like beets, though.
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Beets, sometimes pineapple with the Australian burger.
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that's not I'm For me, that's absolutely no chance am I doing that.
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I feel like fruit and fruit and meat My mom used to make this mango chicken salad and it would piss me off so much every time she And it tasted good.
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But it [ __ ] made me so mad.
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I was like Like this is delicious chicken and delicious mango and you [ __ ] up by putting them together. I hated that.
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I like this little branding here.
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Little Marcus Aurelius looking. Guy.
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I've still got the last one still.
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That must be telling you something. So, did you like this?
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There's a little bit of a cumulative effect, you know, as you go.
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You know, the chemistry of all of them. Okay.
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I have the chemistry of all. I like that.
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So, as I understand it, Euphoria season 2 is shot entirely on Kodak Ektachrome film, which is almost impossible to find.
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And I know that you're romantic when it comes to cinema.
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What would you say a show like Euphoria stands to gain from shooting on 35 mm?
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I think like because every other aspect of it has so much thought in it and so much care to then shoot on film is like another degree, another level of effort that you have to put in.
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And you actually can't get the film.
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They made that film for the show.
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So, just in terms of history, there's something quite incredible about about being a part of something.
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Cuz you know, you have guys like Nolan and Tarantino always saving film, always talking about, you know, shooting their pictures on film to save film.
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But then to have film kind of come in and help you like to to to invent something or to reinvent something rather, that's like very special to me anyway personally to be a part of something like that, you know?
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And you just see it being loaded every time you're shooting.
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Like every single frame of this could never have existed before we shot this.
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Like this is it's so Yeah, I don't know.
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There's something about that. Precious or sacred.
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Yeah, like I you know, vainly I get to be on a frame, you know, multiple frames of that film.
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That's like that's pretty that's pretty unique experience, you know?
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And then another thing that's unique about the cinematography on the show is the use of color to represent a character's emotional state. Yeah.
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You know, I think a lot of people use colors in the way that, especially how they were using the first season, to be like, "Oh, I want to make a movie like Drive, you know?"
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Or "Oh, I want a movie that looks like this or a movie that looks like that."
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Whereas what you just said rings true, I think.
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Sam doesn't use the color because someone's used it before and it's like kind of sexy.
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He'll use it to tell a story through the character.
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Or like Marcel was speaking this season about having filters that were over the lens that made it a memory, that made it a dream.
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What is it like to relive childhood in memory shots?
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And like everything's used practically to evoke a feeling.
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And I think that's the thing I like the most about Sam.
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And then can you draw back the curtain on that single shot carnival scene from Euphoria episode 4?
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The scope of it is so ambitious.
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Yeah, I mean, there was stitch points.
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There were little stitch points throughout the thing, but we spent a couple of nights shooting that and I remember they were editing it as we shot it.
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They'd take the card out and then run it to a building and they'd edit it to make sure that the stitch points so Sam worked that out in real time.
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Like he was like where can we stitch it?
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He it wasn't composed until they composed it on the you know sort of on the on the spot and it's such a cool shot to watch.
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I love watching that shot.
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The Phoenix Angry Goat Pepper.
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Some of them have a little bit of a delayed reaction.
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Not that we're teaching you everything about hot sauce today, but some of them Why do they do that?
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You take a bite You feel good about it and then about 30 seconds later it connects. [ __ ] hands, man.
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So I've heard you talk about studying the groundbreaking work of actors of yore from Brando to James Dean to Montgomery Clift.
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Is there an actor that you'd say influenced some of your more unique character development tactics?
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Like I was interested to read that you'd keep a journal from the perspective of your character.
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I think James Dean said something like how can I lose?
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I've got Marlon Brando in one hand and Montgomery Clift in the other.
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And I think that actually kind of applied to a lot of what I was doing with that I wanted to do with Nate was to have the sensitivity of Montgomery Clift, to have these eyes like a wounded deer, you know, but then to have the brute force of Brando coming in and ripping Celes' clothes off, you know what I mean?
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Like So I think funny enough, your question is the answer.
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Like I've that's probably what I I drew from all of those kinds of people.
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How can you have like a a great softness and a sadness in your eyes, but still be like Yo, what the [ __ ] good? You know what I mean?
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Like this this weird contrast is what I try to dance between, I think, with it.
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And then off the top of your head and without thinking about it too much, your favorite Brando movie of all time and why? Uh On the Waterfront.
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Um just for the one-way ticket to Palookaville.
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When he's in the car with his brother, that line is [ __ ] crazy.
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You know, could have been somebody.
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I could have been something, you know? You was my brother. Like that kind of thing. I like that.
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That's a different movie.
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That's um Got Got Father II, but same sentiment. Point stands. Point stands. Something about it. You know what I mean? That kind of thing.
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Just want to splice guy, huh? You're a spice man.
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Spice Is that what you call yourselves? Yes.
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We spice It's a very exclusive club. Yeah, we meet. Uh I'll take it. It would be an honor.
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Spice men, I have many leather-bound books. Oh, we're on this one. Yeah.
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As we get more confident I just This is the time you should be getting less confident. Is that a thing?
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The closer you are to the peak, you get more confident, but it's the most perilous part of the journey?
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Well, I like that outlook.
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I've never heard it delivered quite so eloquently. I like that.
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I like that as an outlook through the whole thing. But, no.
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To answer your question, typically up front, big bites, cleaning wings as we work our way down the line.
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You start to see smaller and smaller light from this side of the table. That's not me. Small to big. Yeah, there we go. There we go.
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That's how we're doing it.
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All right, Jacob, we have a great segment on our show called Explain That Gram.
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We're going to do a deep dive on our guest's Instagram, pull interesting pictures that need more context.
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So, we'll pull a picture up over here on the monitor.
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You just tell us the bigger story.
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So, now that you're an avid photographer on set, not just when you're stealing other people's phones for selfie pranks. I love that.
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What began your interest in photography and why is it important for you to bring a camera on set?
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I think Heath Ledger definitely started it um cuz I'd seen uh I'd seen a documentary of his and it was sort of all told through his photos and and super eight footage that he had.
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Um, and when I left home the journey seemed so big and so unrealistic that I knew I would like forget it.
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So, my mom bought me a my Canon camera to just like make sure I was snapping every single beat um for to keep it all, I guess.
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Yeah, it was the first magazine I ever did.
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It's called uh V Man and I was that thing was reflective of me.
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So, there's another picture on there and it's the film version of what the photographer was shooting while I was hanging out.
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What do you do with uh all your photos?
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Do you archive them in any way? them, yeah.
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I've got them all I've got most of them printed and I just go back on them and you know, get teary every now and then.
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This is uh quite the celebrity row here at MSG.
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You got Simu Liu on one side and then you got Liev Schreiber on the other side.
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Do you remember what you're pointing at here?
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Um it was probably me trying to act like I knew like like trying Did you see that sport?
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Did you see that cover as a basketball player? just happen right there?
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That three was crazy You know what I mean?
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Like I have no idea what's going on.
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Oh, number three blocked him good, huh? Got him so good.
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So, I was trying to be one of the guys, you know?
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Cuz you it also there's so many cameras watching you when you're on the front row.
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So, it's like not it's an enjoyable experience, but the whole time you know, this little voice in my head is like don't look like an idiot.
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Like look like anyone scores, I'm like you know, it's like me and Spike Lee like He's going to see this now I think of my phony. [ __ ] man.
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I've seen great men fall at this point, too. So, Not the champion. Jacob the champion. You made me tear up. I love you, Dad. I love you so much, Dad.
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So, we had Jeffrey Dean Morgan on the show.
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He had some interesting thoughts on an actor's psychological approach to playing a villain, saying that a villain doesn't know that they're a villain.
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How would you describe your relationship with playing a detestable character like Nate Jacobs, if you'd even call him detestable?
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Yeah, I mean, you know, I've I've been over this so many times and I've been dragged across the coals for it.
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Man, I I had had a conversation with my mom.
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I was like, "I will not stop defending him."
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Like because like that's my That's my baby.
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You know, I've like I've made him and and there's no way I don't think anyone could give a performance if I was sitting there being like, "Man, this guy is like a detestable piece of shit."
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Cuz then I wouldn't want to play him, you know?
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I wouldn't want to say the words.
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I think for me as a performer, it's it's my job to open my heart up and my mind up a little bit and empathize and I think we could all sort of benefit from doing this in life a little bit, too.
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Even if someone's objectively shitty, just sitting back and realizing they come from somewhere and they come from a set of circumstances that are probably different to yours.
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And whilst it doesn't make it right, I think it's beneficial to to even just consider it for a second, you know?
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And as an actor, it's imperative, I think, personally. Just so nervous, man.
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It's like survive, survive, survive, survive, survive. Freakishly hot. All right. Dive in.
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I already know this one's going to be a [ __ ] nightmare. Whoa. Yeah, whoa. Oh, god.
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It's no That one's no joke.
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Well, you know, if if but if there's someone to blame, this is actually this is from Australia.
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I think it's from your hometown, actually.
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You can blame me like I invented the 13-degree scorpions.
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Like I was before I was an actor, I would just sit at home perfecting my chili recipe.
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hot sauce in the hot sauce.
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Yeah, my uncle like it's good.
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I don't know why we're southern all of a sudden. They good, buddy.
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Can you talk through the moral dilemma that you have as an actor in the streaming era?
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You once asked yourself in a Vanity Fair profile, "Am I the face of this robotic terrifying new age?" I was a little dramatic.
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Which I can say now that I'm in deep pain.
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Um Um no, I think it's fright. Sorry. Don't apologize. This is the show.
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I think when there's that much content in the world and we can just sit on our couches and order food and order groceries and order clothes and then essentially not move and just watch an endless stream, I don't think it's good for cinema.
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I don't think it's good for story time, but I don't think it's good for people, either.
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It seems like a very sad way to live.
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That's a great fear to me and because I started in a in somewhere that could maybe cater to that, it was like very frightening to me as a young man and then I was also like, you know, you're very convicted when you're like 18, 19, you're like, "Hell no, man. Not me, man. Absolutely not me, man."
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Especially a young ambitious actor watching Brando and watching James Dean. Yeah.
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Yeah, and then I you know, I thought that my gods would be looking down at me just like spitting on me, weeping at like, you know, they're like, "How dare you utter our name?" Okay. Cheers. Cheers. Like the last one. Immediate.
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Straight to the back of the throat. Yeah.
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Straight to the back of the throat. Just like that.
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This, I think, will be a transformative experience for you. This wing right here. This sauce.
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Straight to the back of the throat. Yeah.
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They didn't even They didn't even have to buy you dinner first.
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The laugh just cracked the pepper in my throat.
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So, I've heard you talk about forgetting your lines at the Euphoria audition and then blowing a self-tape because you were copying Zac Efron's performance in Charlie St.
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Cloud for a show that required an American accent. You do dig. You do dig.
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They say one thing about you. You're a digger. I'm a spiceman who digs. I'm a spiceman who digs.
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I'm going to have to go here.
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When you think about auditioning rock bottom moments, what immediately comes to mind for you? Um Rock bottom moment.
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Probably I went to this one one time.
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Feel like I just got way cooler when I speak.
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Yeah, I went to this one place.
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You know, cuz I don't try to speak less.
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Um and it was for some show and I was like usually learn my lines, but then sort of try to play a little bit.
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And in the middle of the scene this casting director was like "Oh, can you like" she like stopped me and was like, "Can you just do it exactly as the words are?"
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And I was like, "Oh, I don't know that I'll be like reading off the paper."
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And she's like, "Do that. Do that. Read off the paper."
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And I started and I was just felt so dejected that I just left.
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I was like in the middle of the thing.
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I was like, "I'm not who you're looking for."
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Because um I uh had a lot of pride, I guess, maybe.
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That That story makes no sense cuz my mouth is so raw. No, you know what?
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They tried to confine you to the page.
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Try to put me in They They wouldn't let you color outside the lines. Yeah.
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Wouldn't let I'm a peacock.
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your creative spirit fly. Yeah, let me fly.
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You got to let Jacob fly. fly.
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You got to let Jacob fly.
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And speaking of spreading your wings Yeah.
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Are you ready to move on to the next sauce? Hell, yeah. This is the PuckerButt. Extra mean green. Okay. Come on, man. Ready?
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So, growing up in Australia, I understand that you were a pretty good rugby player before a back injury sideline your playing days and push you towards a career in acting.
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What's the key to a good dropkick?
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That seems like a difficult athletic skill to perfect. Yep. Lemonade, dear?
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Um Can I tell you a secret? Yeah. Okay.
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Oh, it's kind of like there's this cathartic release through through your uh muscles. Oh. As you enter shavasana. Um I can't drop kick. I wasn't the kicker.
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What's the best stadium food to eat during a match at Lang Park?
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It would probably be some form of a sausage on bread. That's my go-to.
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I have a very simple palate.
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I don't like to be, you know, although I said before, I love burgers with everything on them.
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Um I have a fairly simple palate. Oh, I'm quite relaxed.
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That's what you got to do. The cathartic release. Okay. One to go.
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So, I should eat this whole one. Absolutely. Do it. There we go. That was bad. I should You did. Oh, well. Okay. All right, well. We're doing it.
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I'll see you at the bottom. See you at the bottom. What a terrible idea. But it was yours. Uh-huh. So, I'll stand by it. Problem was yours, yeah. I'll stand by it.
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Believe You should have a champion.
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Closing out another episode of Hot Ones, and what we're going to do here is pray on your hot sauce-fueled vulnerability for a quick association game, okay? Okay.
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I'll point to a sauce, and you just tell me the first Australian slang word or phrase that comes to mind, okay? 13 Angry Scorpions. Bloody hell.
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I'm about to bomb beyond insanity.
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Oh, this is an impossible game. Crikey.
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And last but not least, the last Apollo, the one that we just ate through.
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It's like you bloody ripper.
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Jacob O'Lorty taking on the Hot Ones Gauntlet had not explored the hot sauce subculture of Australia, got a crash course today and aced that test and now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.
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This camera, this camera, this camera, let the people know what you have going on in your life.
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Um, super stoked, really really glad to be here. Um, uh, uh, um, yep. Yep.
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Got this, got this, got this. CHECK IT OUT. LOOK AT YOU. OH. YEP. THAT'S AN ACTOR.
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That's an actor right there.
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He's going to be in it, you know what I mean?
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He's immersing himself in the experience.
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Shouldn't have, I'll tell you.
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That's commitment to craft. Crikey.
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Hey, what's going on Hot Ones fans?
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This is Sean Evans checking in with a very exciting announcement.
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We've read the comments, we've seen the emails, and after 6 years, more than 250 episodes, we can now bring you the full Hot Ones experience in one convenient package.
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