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So, I'm in the same boat.
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Uh, the question is directed towards you, but I'll give you my answer really quick, which is Sean, how do you balance side hustles while performing at Twitch?
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My answer to that, and I've said it before, is um I don't b I don't do anything on the side.
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Um, and frankly, I have no idea how you do it.
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Our good friend Raone is able to do it really well.
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I get some people can do it.
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I personally can't do it and I don't even try and uh I'm not ashamed about that. Yeah. Yeah.
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There's different ways to like kind of organize your time.
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Like you see this from Elon Musk or Jack Dorsey running two multi-billion dollar public companies at once as CEO, right?
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Like kind of a crazy thing that kind of seemed impossible before.
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And I would say I do it in two ways.
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One is I throw more hours at it.
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So like I don't take weekends off.
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Like I work seven days a week.
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I don't work all day all seven days a week, but I my weekend is just like my weekday.
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There's they're the same construction.
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So all of a sudden I got an extra 16 hours on the weekend where I can do things. Same thing at night.
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Like I don't watch a bunch of like TV.
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I stopped watching like you know NBA games stuff like that.
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Like I I basically was like look I could cut that out and that's two hours a night that instead I can create content right or like when I do the podcast everybody else at the back when we started this everybody would go down to the cafeteria at Twitch for lunch.
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I would walk across the street.
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The studio was right your office was literally like 50 steps away from from Twitch.
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I would walk 50 steps away.
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go to the hustle office and we would record from 12:00 to 1.
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Everybody else is eating lunch. I'm recording a podcast. Cool.
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I'll eat lunch on my desk like later. Doesn't matter, right?
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So, there's these little pockets of time you can unlock. That's the first bit. Second bit is hiring. I bring on people.
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So, when I say I'm doing X, it's rarely just me doing X.
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It's like Ben or Zack or Roine or Chris or I have a whole bunch of people that I say, "Hey, I'm doing this interesting project.
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Who wants to do it with me?"
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And they're like, I find great people who want to do interesting things together. And I say, "Cool. What's in it for you? Do you want money? Do you want learning?
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Do you want like rep, you know, want to build your network?
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What do you want out of this?
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I'll make sure you get it.
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And they let me, like I said, be in two places at once cuz I could be doing this and they could be doing that.
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What's your burn on all the like?
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Because whenever I hear you say you got all these people, I'm like, damn.
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Yeah, that's must be a lot monthly. Yeah.
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My burn is is expensive, but the things now bring in money, so it's it's okay. It offsets it.
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But like uh but the angel investing doesn't bring in money, and that sounds angel investing, I don't pay salaries.
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It's only carry, so it's splitting the upside.
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So, they have they they get they I took some of my my 20% carry and I took it down and let them have more carry.
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So, um which, you know, for them is fine because they make money doing other things.
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So, they're like, "Cool, this will pay off in 5 years, that's great.
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And I get to like learn a bunch about investing.
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I get to put together a portfolio.
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So, if I want to go get a job doing this or I want to start my own fund, I'll have a track record to point at and say, "No, I I did these investments before.
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I've been doing this for years."
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So, that's kind of like what's in it for them.
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Um, so I do have a, you know, significant burn.
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I would say it's like $200 to $300,000 a year of like people cost to do these things.
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My goal is for them to break even.
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Um, but if not, like that's what money is for.
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Money is to be invested in things that will grow.
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And so I kind of like just look at it like an investment.
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And uh, it's worked out so far where where the side hustles more than pay for the money I put in.
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Um, now the last thing is basically an acknowledgement.
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And I talked I was pretty transparent with the people at Twitch which was like look I operate not on a 9 to5 like strict schedule like cool I'm just going to punch the clock for 40 hours a week. No, no, no.
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Uh I'm here to do this mission. You want this job done. Great.
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I'm going to get that job done. Here's the trade.
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I I can make sure this job gets done.
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You don't ask me how and when and where and why and you know like all the uh like not in such a like confrontational way, but like it's an understood agreement.
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Like they know what I do.
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I'm I'm very open about like, hey, I have a podcast. I have a newsletter.
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Like the CEO of Twitch subscribes to the newsletter and like will DM me about it like sometimes, right?
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Like I'm not hiding any of these things.
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They know I do these things.
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They know they take some time, but they're okay with that trade because I deliver the goods in my projects.
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And so, uh, my trainer told me this one day cuz I told him, I said, "I'm feeling a little bit guilty like, you know, I wonder I really like these people.
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I don't want them to feel like I'm shortch changing them."
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He goes, "Well, do you deliver the goods?" I was like, "Well, yeah.
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like I I perform like they get the results they want.
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Okay, well you're that dude.
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I was like what do you mean?
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He's like he's like they don't pay you to sit in your chair for certain hours.
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They pay you to deliver the results and so just make sure you deliver the results.
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And if you're delivering the results in less time, that's cuz you're that dude.
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Maybe not everybody could do that, but you could do that.
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And I was like, "Oh man, what a pep talk.
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That was uh you know, made me feel good about something that I was feeling, you know, uncertain about or uneasy about before."
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And you're on paternity leave now, right? Yeah. So that helps too. Yeah. Exactly.
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And and that's, you know, like big companies understand like look, you if you have a kid, my my first kid, I only took 10 days off, which I really regret.
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I should have uh I should have took the whole leave.
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And so this time I decided I'm make I'm going to make sure I take time off.
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And this time, my family actually really needs me there.
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Whereas the first time I was like, I don't know what the hell I'm going to do here.
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Uh my wife kind of got it under control. Let me go back to work.
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And so this time I kind of realized that the idea of like oh this project is so important and like if I take this time off then you know blah blah blah let me do it I'll take time off later and later never came and that was a big lesson for me like don't don't put important things off till later do them now [music] rule what I want to I put my all in it like no days off on the road let's Travel, never looking back. Oh yeah. Feeling like gold.
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I don't want [music] my hiding. Uhhuh.
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Ain't nobody telling me no.
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I'm catching feels wherever I go.
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I can rule [music] the world.