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So there I was, 39 years old and essentially hearing, "Here's $10 million and your history."
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John Gutfrieded, managing partner of Wall Street's hottest firm, told me that my life at Solomon Brothers was finished.
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"It's time for you to leave," he said.
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"I was terminated from the only full-time job I'd ever known and from the high pressure life that I loved.
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This after 15 years of 12-hour days and 6 day weeks, out fired."
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Most of the 63 partners were asked to stay on as employees of the new company. Not me, though.
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And a half a dozen other guys were pushed out at that time as well.
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Was I sad on the drive home? You bet.
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But as usual, I was much too macho to show it.
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And I did have $10 million as compensation for my hurt feelings.
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If they had said, "We had another job for you."
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I'd have done it in a second, just as I did at an earlier career turning point in 1979 when Billy and John told me to give up my sales and trading responsibilities and supervise the computer systems area.
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I was willing to do anything that they wanted.
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It was a great organization and I would have been happy to stay.
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I would have never left voluntarily.
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Afterward, I didn't sit around wondering what was happening at the old firm.
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I didn't go back and visit.
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I never look over my shoulder. Once finished, gone. Life continues.
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So, that is from the beginning of the book that I'm going to talk about today, which is the autobiography of Michael Bloomberg.
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It is called Bloomberg by Bloomberg.
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And he's describing the fact that getting fired was one of the best things that ever happened to him.
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There's a great line by Steve Jobs that comes to mind where he says that sometimes life is going to hit you in the head with a brick, but don't lose faith.
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And so Bloomberg said, I didn't look back.
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He was going to take the $10 million that he got from sale of the company and jump right back into the arena this time as an entrepreneur.
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And so Bloomberg grew up working class.
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His parents didn't have a lot of money.
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I'm going to skip over his childhood.
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I want to go right into when he went to Harvard Business School.
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And this is right at the end of Harvard.
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Really, he's not sure what to do after college.
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says, "My two years at Harvard were well spent.
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Harvard's case method teaching honed my analytical skills and sharpened my communication abilities.
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The academic standards there were superior, but not what I would call outstanding.
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There were some very bright students in my class.
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Some classmates I thought not exactly intellectually gifted, and a few that I considered total frauds who could only talk a good game.
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Those who I thought were smart generally did well later in life.
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Those who I considered dummies did less well.
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The bullshitters faded away.
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Street smarts and common sense, it turned out, were better predictors of career achievements.
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By this point, I hadn't really pondered where my life and work would take me.
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What should I do with my life?
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I talked to my good friend Steve.
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Steve told me to call the firms of Solomon Brothers and Goldman Sachs to say that I was desperate to be an institutional salesperson or an equity trader. Who are they?
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Meaning, who is Goldman Sachs and who is Solomon Brothers?
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and what would I be doing?
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Don't worry about it, Steve told me. Just do it.
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Not having any better ideas of my own, I made the calls.
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And then he makes the point that these jobs at the time were considered very like low status.
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He says security trading and sales were considered secondass occupations in those days.
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Both involved getting your hands dirty by actually picking up the telephone and talking to customers.
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So he essentially what he's describing at this point in his life and this point in this book, essentially he's learning the meta skill of sales.
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Uh, I did this episode on Ken Griffin, I think last year or maybe the year before, and when uh, one of Ken Griffin's mentors retired, he said, "Hey, come to my office.
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You can grab anything that you want."
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And what I thought was interesting is Ken wanted this like $10 sign, uh, this plaque that was in his mentor's office that said, "If we're going to eat, someone's got to sell."
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And then in that episode, Ken was giving advice to college students.
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And he says, "You're always selling, and if you don't like to sell, here's my advice. Get over it."
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I think Michael Bloomberg would agree with what Ken Griffin was saying.
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Talks a lot about the importance of selling and that this point in his life was hugely beneficial in the the future decades of him building his own company.
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One of the most valuable private uh privately held companies in the world by the way.
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Uh both involved getting your hands dirty by actually picking up the telephone talking to customers.
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Forget the fact that almost all occupations have big selling component.
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You have to sell your firm, your ideas, and yourself.
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overlook the fact that a good trading mentality is synonymous with the ability and discipline to compartmentalize, focus, and compete for success.
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In those days, no self-respecting research analyst or banker ever thought of working the phones, of actually bringing in business.
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They thought soliciting was undignified.
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And this is the first few years of his company.
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He was probably the best salesperson of Bloomberg when he starts it.
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Uh for me with college loans to pay off, a good job was a good job.
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And as I would learn later in life, it's the doers, the lean and hungry ones, those with ambition in their eyes and fire in their bellies, who go the furthest and achieve the most.
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And so I absolutely love this part because he winds up getting an offer from both Goldman Sachs and Solomon Brothers.
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Goldman offers him $14,000 a year.
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Solomon offers him 9,000.
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So he wanted to take the job at Solomon.
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He's like, "I literally would starve. I cannot live on $9,000. I have no money. I have student debt. I'm in New York City."
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And so essentially, this is his financial situation at the beginning of his career.
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Look, I cannot afford to work at Solomon.
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Uh so he's he's talking uh to Gutrey.
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This is the same guy that's going to fire him uh many years later.
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I want to I love it, but I don't own another suit of clothes.
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I don't have an apartment to live in.
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I have no cash in the bank.
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All I've got are outstanding student loans uh that I took for tuition when the part-time campus job as a school parking lot attendant didn't pay enough.
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And so he's asked how much you need.
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He says, "I need $11,500."
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So remember, they offered him $9,000 a year.
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He says, "Fine, that's $9,000 salary and I'll give you a $2,500 loan."
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And so he talks about the culture at Solomon Brothers.
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He says, "To say that I fit into Solomon and loved the industry is an understatement.
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I reveled in it every minute of the day."
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The year is 1966 and Michael Bloomberg is 24 years old.
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And he talks about the difference in leadership between the two different people that are going to run the firm.
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He absolutely loved Billy Salomon.
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He says, "The boss when I joined was Billy Salomon.
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Billy made the culture special.
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He was decisive and consistent as a leader.
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If he ever harbored doubts after making a decision, I never saw it.
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He was easily approachable and willing to listen to everyone's views.
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When he said we were going left, we went left.
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When he said right, right, it was.
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We didn't have to prepare for both directions. He set the rules.
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There was no different set of rules for him. He led by example.
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What he said, he did, and the rest of us did as well.
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John was a great leader, too.
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But I always thought that he listened to too many people.
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It made running the firm much more difficult for him.
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Smart people prepared for both left and right.
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When Jon succeeded Billy, this event split resources and made it harder to lead when the going got tough.
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Unlike Billy, Jon consulted all interested parties before making a decision.
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No matter how noble the motive, that resulted in indecisiveness, comparing Jon to Billy on leadership.
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I always thought Jon was more egalitarian but less effective.
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And so, he starts out at the very bottom.
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In fact, he has to work in his underwear in an unconditioned bank fault. This is hilarious. Remember, it's 1966.
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I worked my first summer there in the cage.
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We were physically counting securities by hand.
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It was a pretty lowly start.
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We slaved in our underwear in an unairconditioned bank with an occasional six-pack of beer to make it more bearable.
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And then he reinforces the low status nature of the job that he chose, the one that he had.
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He had no other way to feed himself.
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And he's really too embarrassed to tell his friends who had, you know, at the time were much more successful than he was.
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My friends asked what I was doing for work. to save face.
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I told him I was studying methods and procedures to simplify workflows.
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My friends were research analysts and investment bankers with lush private offices and I was what can only be called a clerk. Why didn't I quit? I was too embarrassed.
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And then again, this was great preparation for his future career.
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He talks a lot about sales in the book.
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He's going to give us basically this this this definition of what he considers a good sales technique.
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We did what all great sales people do.
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We presented everything we had and then highlighted whatever facts enabled customers to convince themselves that they were getting a good deal.
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And so he's selling securities over the phone.
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Both of his bosses are wa are watching him.
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Says, "Billy and John would stand over me, watching silently while I was on the phone with a customer, head down, totally focused on making the sale, talking, explaining, cajoling, pleading.
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I felt a great thrill when I closed the deal.
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After I closed the deal, they would walk away without a word.
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There weren't any congratulations. They weren't needed.
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I was expected to make big trades.
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And so, even though he's going to make his first small fortune in finance, he never thought if he was going to be an entrepreneur that he would uh be an entrepreneur in finance.
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He wanted to actually have a real business that had a real service that made real people's lives better.
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And then he has this I skipped over this part in his uh childhood and then also in uh high school and college he has this love of history.
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So he's constantly consulting history when he has to make decisions and when he's going to start his own company he's like well okay like do I want to just be in finance?
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Like well how were all the great fortunes made?
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And so he says Wall Street promised vast riches although a few of the great fortunes had been made there from John D.
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Rockefeller to Sam Walton to Bill Gates.
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We are not yet in the story though where he starts Bloomberg.
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He's still telling us essentially lessons that he learned at Solomon Brothers that he would use when he built his own company. So now this is in 1967.
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This is a year after uh he starts working at Solomon Brothers and again didn't grow up with money.
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Now he's exposed to people that have a lot of money and it's there just kind of like humorous and funny stories about, you know, him peeking into this world that he didn't even know existed.
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Now fast forward to this day, you know, he's rumored to be, you know, one of, if not the wealthiest person in America.
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I've heard a bunch of different stories about this.
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Um, that he essentially been pulling out billions and billions in dividends out of his company for, you know, more than two decades.
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But back back at this point in the story, he's in his early 20s, mid20s, and he's going to a fancy dinner at a very nice New York restaurant, and he says, "I couldn't stop gawking.
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It was my first time in such opulent surroundings."
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So, he's talking about the person that's sitting next to him, and he says, "Her topics of conversation were equally incomprehensible.
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She asked, where did my family have vacation houses in Europe?
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In what country was our yacht registered?
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Where do we keep our plane?
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My late father, who never earned more than $6,000 per year, would have chuckled.
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In front of me was more silverware per place setting than my family owned in total.
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I thought I'd gone through the looking glass into another world.
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And so early in his career, he has a really great idea where he's like, "Okay, Billy's the boss.
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I'm going to make myself indispensable to the boss."
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Now, keep in mind, this is his first second year that he's working there.
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let's say 14 15 years in the future he's going to wind up getting $10 million and then fired from this job.
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But this he would have never got the $10 million and then therefore the seed capital he needed to start Bloomberg this you know this very valuable business that he still owns today if it wasn't for the things that he's doing at this point in his career.
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And he he he's like the great thing about this book is one [snorts] it's very simple language.
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Uh Bloomberg is unapologetically extreme and he's also very very direct.
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And so he'll tell you a story and he's like, "I don't know.
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This just seems like obvious.
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Everybody should just do this."
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And the the the the moral of the story he's about to tell us is like you should just if you have a job and you have a boss, like why aren't you automatically making yourself indispensable?
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It's the fastest way to move up.
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I came in every morning at 7 a. m.
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getting there before everyone else except Billy.
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When he needed to borrow a match or talk sports, I was the only other person in the trading room, so he talked to me.
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At age 26, I became a buddy of the managing partner.
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I would stay later than anyone else.
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when he needs someone to make an after hours call to a big client or someone to listen to his complaints about those who had already gone home. I was that someone.
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Making myself omniresent wasn't exactly burdenome.
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I loved what I was doing.
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And developing a close working relationship with those who ran the show probably didn't hurt my career either.
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I never understood why everybody else doesn't do the same thing.
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Make himself indispensable on the job.
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That was exactly what I did.
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And then this is one of my favorite parts in the book.
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This part is absolutely amazing.
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I'm just going to read huge chunks of the book to you from here.
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It's really on the importance of showing up, working hard, staying flexible, and then loving what you do.
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There's a handful of ideas that Bloomberg repeats throughout this entire book.
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It is said that 80% of life is just showing up.
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I believe that you can never have complete mastery over your existence.
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You can't choose the advantages you start out with, and you certainly can't pick your genetic intelligence level.
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But you can control how hard you work.
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I'm sure someone someplace is smart enough to succeed while keeping it all in perspective and not working too hard.
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but I've never met him or her.
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The more you work, the better you do. It's that simple.
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I've always outwork the other person.
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And if I hadn't, he or she would be writing this book. Still, I had a life.
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I don't remember being so driven or focused that my job got in the way of playing in the evenings and on weekends. I dated a lot.
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I skied and I jogged and I hit the town more than most other people.
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The more you try to do, the more life you'll have.
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Although I was serious about my career, I never had a budget for my future.
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Unlike so many of my classmates, I didn't set out to be a partner or vice president at age 30 or a trillionaire at 35.
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Make a comprehensive scheme for the rest of my life.
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I had trouble filling out the part of the college application where you're asked to write 1500 meaningless words about what you're going to do for the next 10 years.
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Both at business and at home, I've never let planning get in the way of doing.
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Life, I found, works in the following way.
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Daily, you're presented with many small and surprising opportunities.
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Sometimes you seize one that takes you to the top.
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Most, though, if valuable at all, take you only a little way.
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To succeed, you must string together many small incremental advances rather than count on hitting the lottery jackpot once.
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Trusting to great luck is a strategy not likely to work for most people.
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As a practical matter, constantly enhance your skills.
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Put in as many hours as possible and make tactical plans for the next few steps.
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Then based on what actually occurs, look one more move ahead and adjust the plan.
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Take lots of chances and make lots of individual spur-of-the- moment decisions.
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Don't This is such a great line.
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Don't devise a five-year plan or a great leap forward.
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Central planning didn't work for Stalin or Mao and it won't work for an entrepreneur either.
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Every significant advance I or my company's ever made has been evolutionary rather than revolutionary.
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Small earned steps, not big lucky hits. I stay flexible.
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A reporter asked me what we at Bloomberg had failed at.
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My answer after some thought was nothing.
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But what we accomplished wasn't always what we set out to do.
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Often in the process, things worked that we hadn't planned on.
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Unforeseen uses arose for our products.
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Customers appeared whom we hadn't known existed.
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And exactly the reverse occurred for those I had been dead sure of. Planning has its place.
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The actual thought process sometimes leads to great new ideas.
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But you can only accomplish what's possible when you get there.
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Then whatever your idea is, you've got to do more of it than anyone else.
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A task that's easier if you structure things so that you like doing them since doing more almost always leads to greater accomplishments.
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In turn, you'll have more fun.
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and then you'll want to do even more because of the rewards and so on.
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I've always loved my work and put in a lot of time which has helped make me successful.
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I truly pity people who don't like their jobs.
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They struggle at work so unhappily for ultimately so much less success and thus develop even more reason to hate their occupations.
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There's too much delightful stuff to do in this short lifetime not to love getting up on a weekday morning.
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And then he brings the story to after he got fired and starting Bloomberg.
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And again, I've said this a few times.
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I think uh Bloomberg is unapologetically extreme.
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And you see that right here in this paragraph.
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He says, "Did I want to risk an embarrassing and costly failure?" Absolutely.
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Happiness for me has always been the thrill of the unknown.
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Trying something that everyone says can't be done.
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Feeling that gnawing put in my stomach that says danger ahead. I want action. I want challenge.
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Work was, is, and always will be a very big part of my life. I love it.
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Even today, after toiling for 50 years, I wake up looking forward to getting in early, practicing my profession, creating something, and competing against the best.
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It is a real high to be a participant rather than a spectator.
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Think about the percentage of your life spent working.
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If you're not content doing it, you're probably pretty miserable with the situation. Change it.
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And any advice to give to start a company is think about what you do better than anyone else.
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I would start a company that would help financial organizations.
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They were better traders and salespeople.
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They were better managers in computer experts.
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But nobody had more knowledge of the securities and investment industries and of how technology could help them.
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I wanted to create something that would make smart investors out of mediocre ones and would create a competitive advantage over anyone lacking these capabilities.
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And he goes back to this thing that he repeats.
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He's like, stop overanalyzing.
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without planning too much. Just start.
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If you're going to succeed, you need a vision, one that's affordable, practical, and fills a customer need. Then go for it.
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Don't worry too much about the details.
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Do not second guessess your creativity.
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Avoid overanalyzing your new project's potential.
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And he talks about the people stay away from.
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He uh talks a lot of about bankers and venture capitalists in the book.
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So he says, "Banks and venture capitalists can be the worst enemies of entrepreneurs.
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They create doubt in entrepreneurs minds.
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And worst of all, they think that an originator will be helped by their o this is funny.
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[snorts] And worst of all, they think that the originator, meaning him in this situation, will be helped by their oh so insightful views on how he or she should run the new business.
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Often they kill off what's different, special, and full of potential.
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And so he gives an example of uh this happening early in his career or early in the days of Bloomberg, I should say.
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In our early years, one venture capitalist came to see us.
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This guy was one of those self-entitled men who had been born on third base and thought he hit it triple.
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After telling us everything that we were doing was wrong and that we were too unstructured to survive and we were stupid because we were unable to predict future growth with specificity, he left to advise his partners not to buy from Bloomberg.
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The reason we didn't show much interest in his views on how to run our company.
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He was sure right about that account at Bloomberg.
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And then he's talking about work on product and sales first and work on them in parallel and then you can work on everything else after that.
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At Bloomberg, we'd always built the product first.
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We think about accounting and shipping much later in the process.
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Selling is the only process we run simultaneously with development from the start.
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And then he talks about the very humble first days of what becomes one of the most valuable private companies ever created.
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I rented a one room temporary office.
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It was about 100 ft of space with a view of an alley.
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I deposited $300,000 of my Solomon Brothers windfall into a corporate checking account.
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And 15 years later, I had a billion dollar business.
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And so, it's going to take him some time to figure out what product to build and then to build that product.
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And so, in the meantime, he needs to bring in money.
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And so, he has this idea.
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was like, "Okay, try to do some kind of service related business.
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Let's see if we could do some consulting.
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This brings in, you know, a couple hundred,000."
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And so, he writes, "Right after forming our company, we did some consulting.
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It brought in cash, gave us exposure, and helped provide us with some legitimacy that would later lead to work for more clients, and it bought us our first sale to Meil Lynch."
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And then, I love that he sold to Meil Lynch before he had a product.
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When I came back from the meeting, my colleagues were elated until the reality of a six-month delivery for something that didn't exist began to sink in.
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So it's like, okay, we sell this product, it doesn't exist, and we say, don't worry, it doesn't exist.
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You're going to have it 6 months from now. He just made up the day.
23:37
As developers, we're magicians, not miracle workers.
23:41
Month after month as we worked, our mood alternated between elation and the feeling of an impending disaster.
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We weren't just putting out fires.
23:48
We were adjusting to major earthquakes when some new software bug forced us to start over.
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But every day, we got closer to building the machine that we promised.
23:57
At the time, he's also building hardware, which he'll talk about.
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He's got a lot of great ideas about that, by the way.
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Essentially, he looks at his business as just content like uh data and analytics.
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And he built hardware when he needed to build hardware, but once somebody came along that could build better hardware than him, he just focused on what his actual business was.
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And he never confused what his business was with the device that delivered it.
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He has some great lines on that, which we'll get to in a minute.
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Our style then was pretty much the same as today.
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We took the problem and broke it down into little manageable, digestible pieces.
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Then each of us took responsibility for the one we were best suited to do.
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And then he goes back to this idea, get action. We acted from day one.
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Others plan to plan for months.
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I must admit, I was worried.
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Remember, I started the company with 300,000 of his own money.
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Now he's 4 million into this thing.
24:43
He only has 10 million to his name.
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We were spending what would grow to be a $4 million investment of my $10 million.
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Simultaneously, I was becoming responsible for families of almost two dozen company employees.
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I convinced these people to follow me and if the venture had not succeeded, I would have failed them, their spouses and their children as well as our prospective customers. Yet, we plowed ahead.
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From the beginning, I was convinced we were doing something that nobody else could do.
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Nor was anyone even trying.
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Our product would be the first in the investment business where normal people without specialized training could sit down, hit a key, and get an answer to financial questions, some of which they didn't even know they should ask.
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Over time, the Bloomberg terminal evolved to allow users to run an ever wider array of functions developed by our more than 5,000 programmers and engineers.
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But it all began with a simple premise.
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putting more information at people's fingertips more quickly and more accurately than they could otherwise get it.
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That is still the heart of our business.
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And then I absolutely love this part because this describes the again the beginning of his business.
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Finally, the day arrived almost.
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The six-month promise ran out on a Saturday.
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So, we could postpone delivery until Monday.
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So, now we're at 6 months of two days.
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And Monday didn't necessarily mean Monday morning.
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It could be Monday afternoon.
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We were constantly having to fix the software, rewriting it again and again to deliver the consistency needed for reliable real-time analysis.
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We're out of control, I would shout as each software bug surfaced.
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We're going to be out of business if this continues.
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I still say the same things today. It was June 1983.
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And we had delivered something on time, close to something that worked, sort of, and a machine that would be useful somewhat.
26:31
So then we get to the very important role that Meil Lynch plays in Bloomberg story.
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Not only their first customer, they're the first major investor.
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So in 1982, this is going to blow your mind.
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1982, they buy 30% of the company for $30 million. Okay, that's in 1982.
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And around 1996, Michael Bloomberg buys back 10% of the 30%.
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Okay, 10% for 200 million.
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So then about 10 years later in 2008, Michael Bloomberg buys the remaining 20% that Maril Lynch still owned from this investment they made in 1982 for 4. 4 billion.
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So a way to think about that is for 30 million invested in 1982, Meil Lynch makes what? About $4. 6 billion.
27:23
Not only that, they helped him understand the product he was building.
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And so he has two traders working in Miral Lynch that are essentially telling them everything about the pro product that needs to be fixed so it's useful to them and therefore it's useful to them.
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It could be useful to you know future tens of thousands maybe hundreds of thousands of people just like them.
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When we first installed it, Mel assigned two traders to work with us.
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I thought they'd be real pains and second guess us every step of the way. Was I wrong?
27:44
It turned out both of them were as responsible for success as anyone.
27:48
They were nitpickers, but not in a nasty way.
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They wanted us to succeed.
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when they said something didn't work, they could show us it didn't work.
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So, we knew for sure it didn't work and more important to help fix the problem under what specific circumstances it didn't work.
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Every day, our system got better as we fixed each problem they pointed out.
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I'd always rather have a smart, fair, honest, demanding client than a nasty dummy or an I don't care user.
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and then more about the early days which I think were his favorite part of the company.
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The fact that you should be doing everything yourselves at the beginning.
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For our first three or four years in business, I did all of these functions.
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I worked full-time selling our services, negotiating all of our supplier and customer contracts and running the company.
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Never before or since did I have as much fun and as challenging a time in business.
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Back when we started, the original halfozen of us after finishing our regular jobs would go into clients offices on the weekends.
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We would crawl under the new customers desks and we'd lay our own cables.
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We would drag wires stuffing the cables through holes that we drilled in others people's furniturees all without permission without giving any thought to any fire law or building code.
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It's amazing we didn't burn down some office or electrocute ourselves.
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At the end of the day, 10 or 11 o'clock at night, we'd turn it on and watch what we created come alive. It was so satisfying.
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We improvised everything as we went along. I gotta stop there.
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He's used the word improvise steering the boat, you know, a little bit every day.
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Just to use the words of Henry Singleton, he uses that over and over again. We improvised every day.
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We just came and we we iterated and got better every day.
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The difference is he iterated, got better every day, and didn't stop for 50 years.
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I used to write all the checks myself. I signed every contract. I paid every bill.
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I did the hiring and firing.
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I bought the coffee, soda, cookies, and chips.
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I emptied the waste paper baskets.
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I dusted the window sills.
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I wrote and handed out the paychecks personally.
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Those were the best days.
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The first few years in the early 1980s, we were involved in every aspect of our company.
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As we grew and turn these functions over to newly hired specialists, I felt like I was losing a child to adolescence.
30:04
Good for the kid, but painful for the parent.
30:07
So, then we get to one of my favorite parts of the book, and this is where he starts building out the media part of his company.
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part of his company. starts when this guy named Matt Winkler who's a reporter at the Wall Street Journal uh keeps hearing about Bloomberg and this Bloomberg terminal and trying to figure out okay what's going on like he's hearing about it throughout the finance industry and he's like okay I'm going to go and like interview Michael Bloomberg
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and so in this part of the book this is where Bloomberg is describing this first meeting they have he says uh when they arrived in my office I offered them the same speech that I used to convince people to take jobs with us we've got the best people in the world working here all of them think they walk on water all of them are workaholics. Once
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Once they come, they stay for the rest of their lives because they love it.
30:46
They've built the better mousetrap.
30:48
They're doing something important.
30:49
They're giving the little guy information he needs to fight.
30:50
And he's saying, you know, one thing for him to say that he's got the, you know, the best product, the best people, but you don't have to believe me here.
30:58
He does something really smart.
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And he actually, it's a good idea whether you're talking to, I guess, a reporter or even trying to recruit somebody to join your company.
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and he comes into he leaves the the room comes back with this big thick printout and he goes, "Here's every customer we have by name, by firm, and by phone number. Call them yourself."
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And essentially verify everything I just told you is true.
31:19
And so as Michael Bloomberg builds a relationship with Matt Winkler, he starts seeking Matt's advice.
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And really the the main point of this section, I think, is really important.
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It's like, hey, your company likely has information that no one else has.
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start thinking about how you can repurpose it to benefit other people and then achieve your objective.
31:35
So, he's on the phone with Matt and he goes, "Hey, I want to make our terminal indispensable to stock as well as bond traders.
31:41
Should we get into the text news business?"
31:43
His answer wasn't what I expected, although it encouraged me to keep the conversation going.
31:48
Mike, he said, "You and the people who work with you have created a terminal that explains more about why bonds fluctuate each minute, each day, and each week than any collection of reporters ever could.
31:57
You already provide charts and graphs that influence the major debt trading decisions worldwide.
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Add text to that information and you'll have something that doesn't exist anywhere else.
32:07
No one in debt or equity will be able to live without it.
32:12
And then we see he goes back to this habit that he has.
32:14
He consults history when trying to decide if he should enter the news business. Right?
32:19
So he says, "History shows that any gutsy entrepreneur, Joseph Pulitzer, William Randph Hurse, Henry Luch, BC Forbes, Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch, and Oprah Winfrey can enter the news business any time.
32:30
And then he compares his advantage that he has that these other historical figures did not.
32:35
Best of all, we had revenue from terminal rentals, which meant we didn't have to worry about a new service paying for itself as a standalone product.
32:43
One heck of an advantage.
32:45
Fundamentally, at Bloomberg, we're builders, not buyers.
32:49
So, it has never occurred to me to acquire a news organization as a starting point.
32:53
It's always more fun to create from scratch and a lot less risky.
32:57
And so, this is the initial idea of this media business that he begins to build.
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I handed him a three-page list of what Bloomberg News should be doing.
33:02
Our purpose was to do more than just collect and relay news.
33:07
It should also advertise the analytical and computational powers of the Bloomberg terminal by highlighting its capabilities in each news story.
33:14
With our terminal functions included, each of our news stories would be more informative than the competitors and more people would want to access them.
33:23
This meant more revenue, which in turn meant we could afford more reporters and have more news and so on. So, think about it.
33:29
Each news story is a product demo.
33:32
More demos lead to more revenue.
33:34
More revenue leads to more stories and even more revenue.
33:36
And so, this is the part I mentioned earlier about really understanding what the actual business that you're in.
33:41
When we first began, we manufactured computers and keyboards because we had to.
33:46
Personal computers didn't really exist in order to deliver our product.
33:48
But we never made the mistake of believing that we were in the hardware business.
33:51
We are in the business of producing and distributing the world's most accurate, reliable, comprehensive, up tothe-c information and analysis.
33:58
This has been our mission from day one and it has never changed.
34:02
Technology will continuously revolutionize distribution, but our product is content. It remains consistent.
34:10
Much of that content sits behind the media world's most expensive payw wall.
34:15
A subscription to Bloomberg costs about $22,000 a year.
34:17
This book, I think, is almost 20 years old.
34:22
I think the the price is over 30,000 a year if I'm not mistaken.
34:25
That works out to be about $80 to $8 per workday.
34:26
When customers complain that it's expensive, we tell them if you can't make $88 a day using Bloomberg, you have a bigger problem than our bill.
34:36
I mean, he's got some great advice on how to make your product or your company stand out.
34:40
I should say at this point in the story, his company is not called Bloomberg.
34:45
It's called Innovative Market Systems.
34:46
And he's about to change that.
34:46
So he says, "Entreneurs in the booming 1980s were commonplace.
34:50
My company was small and virtually anonymous.
34:52
Our product, the market data terminal that we were selling, was called Market Master, and it could have been confused with a kitchen appliance. No one knew us. No one cared about me."
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But by 1984, this was about to change.
35:05
Those were the days when Ronald Reagan proved how marketable ideas could be when they were pedled with charisma.
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You needed a spokesperson for mass appeal.
35:13
Consumers and the media identified products and policies with the people who pitch them.
35:18
That's actually a very old idea.
35:20
Uh you and I have talked about David Oggovie, Albert Lasker, Claude Hopkins.
35:23
In any case, they tried to get away from the company and basically have like a spokesperson even if it wasn't the founder.
35:30
But they wanted they said people identify with people, not products and not companies.
35:35
And essentially we're what 60 years later than you know Albert Lasker and Claude Hopkins uh were were applying that same exact idea to all kinds of different products.
35:44
He just happens to apply it to his own product.
35:47
So you need a spokesperson for mass appeal.
35:49
Consumers and the media identified products and policies with people who pitch them.
35:51
Nike didn't just make sneakers.
35:53
It pushed them with the mystique that could only come from Michael Jordan.
35:56
To have the best mouse trap wasn't enough.
35:58
Success was delivered by people promotion.
36:01
If we were going to build our business, we too needed a personality. The obvious choice, me.
36:07
Our competitors founders were all dead.
36:10
I, on the other hand, were alive and out making speeches and sales calls every day in city after city around the world, turning my name and work into a great weapon that others in the financial news and market data businesses could not match.
36:22
And since I'd spent so much time demonstrating our product, people had begun to mentally interchange me with the terminal.
36:27
interchange me with the terminal. So they would already they would already before they were called Bloomberg terminals they say hey give me instead of saying what was his name market master which is a terrible name by the way or even they're using the word terminal they're just like hey give me
36:40
some of these Bloombergs I acquiesced to a decision that the marketplace already had made henceforth the product and the company itself would be Bloomberg and then he has a hilarious line here I would become the Colonel Sanders of financial information services as the owner by definition I spoke with authority and to make good copy. I gave
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I gave the press a colorful personality to focus on.
37:02
You kind of see obviously I think if you're listening to that, you probably already know, you've heard his name, you know about his business, but you can see he's, you know, he likes to he has a colorful personality.
37:11
He's unapologetically extreme.
37:13
He talks a lot of throughout this book.
37:15
He has a perspective, a point of view, and he used that perspective, that personality, that point of view to build his company.
37:22
And so then he talks about this very important extension for his media business where he expands into television and radio.
37:26
And the interesting part about this and it goes against his idea that he doesn't want to buy things, he wants to build them.
37:32
So one, he didn't want to do television or radio.
37:35
I think the person had asked him three times.
37:36
And then two, he realizes, oh, it's actually smarter in this case.
37:41
I can buy something to kind of jump start this process.
37:43
And again, it goes back to this flexibility that, you know, he has this goal, this end goal.
37:46
He has a basic idea of where he's going to go, but he doesn't know how he's going to get there.
37:50
and he's willing to be flexible every day.
37:51
This guy named John Fram calls him.
37:53
John was an employee at the FNN.
37:55
The FNN was the Financial News Network.
37:58
It was a television channel whose parent was in bankruptcy.
38:00
He told me I should buy FNN.
38:02
Mike, what you really need to do is get into television.
38:05
It will create synergies with everything else you're doing. What a dumb idea. I said, cutting him off.
38:08
My operating principle has always been build, don't buy.
38:12
Besides, what did I have to do with television?
38:14
And I think the price of this uh this television network at the time was $200 million.
38:21
She's like, "Listen, we're not going to buy I'm not spending $200 million on this.
38:23
No matter what you say, you're crazy."
38:25
Guy calls him back the next day, starts talking to him as if we're old friends.
38:28
He suggested now instead of he goes, "So you should buy this, but then you also need somebody in-house to develop audio and video programming at Bloomberg, and you should hire me and two other guys to do this."
38:39
Once again, I said, "Teelvision, radio makes no sense for Bloomberg." And I hung up the phone.
38:44
A few days passed and then I got another call from him.
38:46
And as I listened to a longer version of the pitch he made a few days earlier, it occurred to me.
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One of us is stupid and it isn't him.
38:53
So I hired the three of them that day.
38:56
And so the first thing they do is they start going out and buying radio stations.
39:00
And then from radio they start pushing and extending into television.
39:05
And he talks about this and again this is I think one of the most important parts of the book.
39:10
He's got like a lot of these like roundabout ways to get in front of potential customers.
39:13
I think this is maybe one of the most genius things he's ever done is obviously the media component of his business.
39:18
He says, "People often ask me why Bloomberg ventured into radio and TV.
39:21
Was there some hidden mo motive?"
39:23
And the motive wasn't hidden.
39:25
The motive was to sell more subscriptions that it was that's the what his entire business runs on.
39:30
And he talks about why he has an advantage in doing this.
39:32
He says, "We have the necessary information and the technical know-how.
39:35
So broadcasting is an easy extension of what we're doing elsewhere.
39:38
Radio and television provide our company with instant visibility.
39:41
The media like nothing better than writing about themselves.
39:45
The more exposure Bloomberg has to the fourth estate, the more they'll promote us to the general public.
39:51
To reach potential customers who don't yet subscribe to our print products, radio and TV help us get our message out.
39:57
The people who lease our terminals are part of radio and television's masses.
40:01
They need news while jogging, showering, driving, or sitting at home, and we've got to give them what they need where they are.
40:10
radio and television simply became another delivery mechanism for the same content and every piece of content he produces is a ad for the Bloomberg subscription and he talks about the same idea a few pages later again everything they do increases the likelihood of selling Bloomberg subscriptions TV
40:28
stories relate to magazine articles that relate to the computer data and he's got a great idea on how to pick the person that should lead the project uh any new project inside your organization as a true capitalist I always believed in the markets ability to make efficient selections. In many of our new ventures,
40:42
In many of our new ventures, we do not appoint a manager at the beginning.
40:46
We simply throw everyone interested into the deep end of the pool, as it were, and stand back.
40:49
It becomes obvious very quickly who the best swimmers are.
40:54
We just watch who people go to for help and advice.
40:55
And later, when we formalize a management appointment, no one's ever surprised.
41:01
The leverage we gain from employing creative people and letting them do their own thing is incredible.
41:05
Few pages later goes back again to that idea.
41:09
Everything we're doing is just increasing the likelihood of selling more Bloomberg subscriptions.
41:12
Our business is information, not the medium that the information is delivered into.
41:18
You see, he's already been flexible about this multiple times.
41:19
Why use all forms of media rather than focus on just one? What business are we in?
41:24
Some companies declare themselves to be in radio or in television or newspapers and so on.
41:29
We have a greater vision.
41:31
Bloomberg is in the business of giving its customers the information they need in whatever form is most appropriate.
41:37
With all methods at our disposal, we do better.
41:40
We create or adopt a new medium.
41:43
We do not ask our customers to accept less.
41:46
And then I think this paragraph is interesting because he talks about the the necessity for having a lot of self-confidence, having a big ego but not making sure your ego is not too big.
41:55
And so he talked about, you know, the fact is he likes he was a micromanager.
41:58
He had a really hard time delegating.
42:00
And so he says,"I was there in the beginning and I too think I could do everything better than anyone else.
42:04
I believe my in my design instincts, in my sales savvy, and my management skills are the best around.
42:09
Still, my ego does allow for the remote possibility that someone might be as good at one or two little things.
42:15
I've admitted there's a slim chance that ideas coming from others could be valuable as well.
42:19
In other words, I'm the same as every other entrepreneur, but at least I know what I don't know."
42:26
And then it goes back to this aggressive personality that he has.
42:31
The fact that he's unapologetically extreme.
42:32
He considers his competitors as if they're trying to starve his children.
42:36
Every day at Bloomberg, we face challenges that jeopardize our comfortable life.
42:40
We constantly have to fight established competitors trying to take food out of our children's mouths.
42:46
And then there are the startups that want to destroy everything that we've built.
42:48
Another thing that he repeats he has in common with Edwin Lann and Peter Teal, this idea that you should not be making me too products.
42:54
Edund Land says, "Don't waste your talents on me too products."
42:57
Peter Teal says, "Don't build an undifferiated commodity business."
43:01
Michael Bloomberg says, "What can we do that our competitors can't?
43:03
There's no reason to do a copycat product.
43:07
Consumers can just as easily buy from others."
43:09
And then he goes back to what he was saying at the beginning of the book that he prefers a lot of these small bets with limited downside and uncapped upside.
43:15
or a modus operande remains building from within which avoids the bet the store high-risisk gambles that often characterize large takeovers such as the disastrous Time Warner AOL deal.
43:24
Maybe I'm just not that smart.
43:27
When I'm looking to expand, I prefer starting with a little capital that we can afford to lose and a few people we can always reassign to other projects.
43:33
This way, we never feel we've committed to stay with our mistakes.
43:35
Nor are we so overextended we can't handle other additional experimental ventures simultaneously.
43:43
And so then there's some hints in the book of just this unreal financial performance.
43:46
Again, I think he was like 98 or he might own 100% of the business now or like something like 98%.
43:49
Uh even and he was like wildly successful almost from the beginning.
43:54
So a few years after founding Bloomberg, I think this is in the '90s.
43:59
He was making so much money in cash.
44:01
He was giving away $200 million a year to charity.
44:04
I think uh in the early 2000s he was donating like $700 million a year.
44:09
I think he's given something like over $10 billion a year to like philanthropic uh different like uh like charities and philanthropic endeavors that he was interested in.
44:19
Um at the same time scattered throughout the book he's got these just like very again unapologetically extreme perspectives.
44:27
This is one of my favorite.
44:27
He says since Bloomberg was always up against companies many times our size we had to enter each commercial fight with an advantage.
44:34
I don't believe that business battles should ever be even.
44:36
At Bloomberg, we do not want fair fights.
44:41
We want to go into contests with an advantage.
44:43
And so, this made me uh think of when I got to this section, Jeff Bezos said something that was very similar.
44:48
So, I asked Sage about this.
44:50
And I asked like, what did Jeff Bezos say about not wanting to fight a competitor as strong as you are?
44:53
And it pulled a quote from one of his past episodes and it says, "When it comes to compet, this is Jeff Bezos now.
44:57
When it comes to competition, being one of the best is not good enough.
45:00
Do you really want to plan for a future in which you might have to fight with somebody who is just as good as you are? I wouldn't.
45:08
Bloomberg is saying the exact same thing.
45:09
We want to go into all these contests with an unfair advantage.
45:12
I do not believe that business battles should be even.
45:16
And then he talks about the importance of persistence, of resourcefulness.
45:19
He says most fortunes are built by entrepreneurs who started with nothing and generally got fired once or twice in their careers.
45:25
And throughout history, the vast majority of great writers, artists, musicians, dancers, and athletes have come from the less financially secure families.
45:33
The CEOs of many Fortune 500 companies went to a state university rather than an Ivy League school.
45:40
The rewards almost always go to those who outwork the others.
45:43
The time you put in is the single most important controllable variable determining your future.
45:53
Communists tried to eliminate any form of meritocracy for 70 years and in addition to wrecking their economies, they starved millions of people to death in the process.
46:01
And then finally, he has some great advice for the future generations of entrepreneurs.
46:07
Periodically, while surrounded by the fruits of our success, the profits, the power, the notoriety, I get frustrated and dream of starting again. But something stops me. Perhaps I'm too old.
46:18
Perhaps I'm afraid it was all luck.
46:18
Or maybe deep down inside, I really do like the trappings that I've accumulated.
46:24
Nevertheless, when I find we have to clear it with legal or had a meeting just to keep others in the loop or are justifying staff versus producers, I want to scream.
46:32
We used to have the Nike motto attitude. We just did it.
46:35
Now there's a why we can't lurking in the background.
46:39
Keeping it from coming out while we grow is our number one management focus today.
46:43
What started simple with time has become complex.
46:46
A single straightforward policy has picked up exception after exception over time.
46:54
products have grown to overlap.
46:54
No one's got an excuse, but everyone's got a reason. This is maddening. Why not just quit then? Chuck it all. Sell the business. Take the money and run.
47:04
Why not cash in, play it conservative, relax?
47:10
Real entrepreneurs never do, and I haven't either.
47:14
Real builders are so focused and dedicated, they'd have a nervous breakdown after two weeks of sitting around.
47:21
their challenge, even their reason for living would be gone.
47:27
Why swap fun, influence, challenge, and more money than you could ever spend for only a multiple of more money than you can ever spend?
47:34
I can't think of anything better than my current situation.
47:38
And why would I take the company public?
47:41
Why would I have to answer to more partners, stockholders, and security and analysts?
47:45
I know why the investment bankers want me to issue stock, but why would we want to do it?
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We're going in the other direction.
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We've already bought back Merryill's 30% investment in our company.
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The first 10% for 200 million in 1996 and the second 20% for $4. 5 billion in 2008.
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Not a bad return on their original investment of about $30 million. So why not sell? No thanks.
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Answering to no one is the ultimate situation.
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So back on the treadmill, ratchet up the risk. Enter a new medium. Start another project.
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improve, develop, expand, go.
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And that is where I'll leave it for the full story.
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I highly recommend reading the book.
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That is 433 books down, 1,000 to go.
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And I'll talk to you again soon.