people were fascinated by artists inspire your record animal it's like always build there's always a good director that influences it even if you're not necessarily tied to one particular religion but you're a spiritual person is something beautiful about the economics and the imagery and
the space itself these containers are built to change your emotional experience the churches designed the moment you walk into it to have an effect upon your body and therefore your mind and then your spirit all my songs always have that kind of like demons devil praying worship kind
of like mentality and kids off mealtime agree religious and I'm like no not really it's just a hyperbolized version of how to fuel in like a romantic space I love the fact that was sitting here because what we have is a direct correlation between inspiration you know you've got an artist here who's about to
release your second encore and we're going to dive in on that because it deserves it and then we have an amazing artist here who's clearly inspired you and this whole thing started very informally with you talking about how movies and how to register inspired you and you can really hear take note you
can see bears yeah you hear I mean record I met with bass over breakfast and sat down and I was like shaking the whole time and I was like okay for the record we don't know knows in the middle of it yeah and I just started writing like video treatments and that's when it kind of like because the thing is I had
been so obsessed with Romeo and Juliet with his it was his film and I had watched it over and over and over again I was going through this really bad breakup there was a long break up in toxic like breakup and I was like so accessory and Julia and I didn't make the correlation as to I was loved the
film because of what was happening in my real life life imitates art uranium and so then one day I realized as I was like getting to like the stick of the rising action of the record you know what I mean the moment where I'm realizing that the the love is do is doom do you know
what I mean the sick forsaken kind of thing and I realized that that's why I was so obsessed with the film's because I felt like I was living it you know and just spoke to me so much to where I sat down we sat down over breakfast and I was like I'm making this record and it's like really influenced by you and I'm
balling some things when reinterpreting them and I just hope that's okay from my point of view I am only honored and moved and excited for you I mean it was a great long long long it started at breakfast I probably learned a lot yeah like a three-hour right because what the connection was was the recognition is is
that like I borrow or I was influenced on Rome Angela that whole melon is made up of references to other movies and references in the world of popular culture and classical references yeah so it's just handing on the baton and the fact that it in any way has a value to inspire someone else to connect with the
story 20 years later that's yeah I'm honestly I have to say though Halsey it's a very very direct like connection to you as an artist and I wonder actually when I'm listening to this concept I'm going to ask you directly what the concerts about a second but when I'm listening to it
you've invented this world but I wonder whether or not it's just in your head yeah whether or not these characters are just kind of you and it's all very kind of like for me when I'm making a record making a concept record the concept really lies in the in the Sonics and in the visuals so be really putting on the
nose with hopeless on Kingdom like for me it was liking it when you're when you're a kid and you climb a tree and you know you get to the top of the tree smash cut to like daydream where you're like on top of a mountain and there's like clouds underneath you and look around you have a superhero cape on and
it's like that's what this record is for me is just like hyperbolized like smash cut fantasy holy cinematic universe and the interpretation of this like very human very normal relationship I went through and so me amplifying it into this like into this like parallel universe like afterlife you know source
akin love story it's me trying to show everyone just how it felt to me in the moment you know it was just a normal break up and like that into the world is paranormal yeah you know so that's why I kind of why I am provided in that era yeah you don't want to have to be explaining it for the next year right
and some ones you want to get let it go and put a variance and do what it's supposed to do and of its life I think I'm done explaining things so which I said I really had to do in the beginning yeah in the first record and I was just like you know just wanted to prove to
everybody all the time what I was was in good faith and was truly artistic because muscle 22 year old girl and like you know there's so many parts of my career that are like you know in fashion or in pop culture and like you know who-who I'm hanging out with or whatever it kind of discrediting is an artist
sometimes and people just want to like brush off the fact that I wrote an entire record myself and all that it's so funny how quickly all that can be taken away when you're seeing in public with Justin Bieber do you ever find yourself when you're working on a film and you takes us high I mean let's be
honest I mean strictly you know Romeo Juliet Moulin Rouge you know you're you interpreting some classic story you know budget movies you know do you ever cross your mind in that process I'm sure you can explain there my little bit you know what is the interpretation it is going
to be and because you know these are tales and think of the pressure to this before you can do in I mean making a film like painting a picture with 300 people so with the vast collaboration yeah early on early on the initial emotional need of the piece is something that's got that I'm personally
struggling where they were wrestling with which is interesting the Romeo and Juliet 20 years ago or or have recently don't so then it becomes about finding codes and language that to release the big idea you can gauge emotionally and then you have this third thing which I think you're alluding to because when
you came to me the chat oh you were telling the story of it what was really interesting and I it's up to you to say what parts that you want to reveal but the intersection between experiencing that film and your own personal life and bringing those two things together is what then is makes it resonate it is it
is kind of resonance in which is what's in the album what was your first impression of listening to the record once you finally got to hear there's some very very direct things about it in connection to Romeo and Juliet remember I'm reminding everyone I didn't I decoded the essence of that
story and so did Shakespeare so it always existed so while I got from it very directly was what you so spoke to me about in the Chateau yeah which is this intersection between a very personal record that is very you that you it's no you talk about what you think I get a lot from what you also feel yeah
and that intersection with this iconic story and a personal cinematic experience when you were young younger that have never been able to leave you and that's happened to me I mean Apocalypse Now yeah you would not think but that's a film that affected me so profoundly and I've seen it so many
times the experiences that some changes as you grow the means of it changes here and that's what does you I think Lydia movies with with things that we're supposed to discover they are men they are made a certain language yes they're not meant to be renewed once yeah they're made in layers and they are mean
actually seeing over and over again other things that people still haven't discovered in certain films I don't think anyone discovered that the crews standing in the middle of the final scene is right in the middle screen I don't mean that it is just between and a final thing because the actually
Napoleon they're a visual sectionals are so strong who's standing right in the middle bringing to notice the Devils in the detail and you're having fun with this and it's interesting because if you were doing it subconsciously on badlands now yeah I think you're doing very consciously on this recording I feel
like yeah I feel like you're setting your audience on a treasure hunt in some respects and yes there's a lot of little you know wheeze and twists and turns and this project already the way that you're even just releasing it yeah put them in newspapers on people's front bus tickets we exactly take it on some like really
guerrilla like type marketing tactics because like you know it's the hard world out here for someone who makes a concept album we live in a world of singles you know it means like if there is a hard world out here for me trying to be like hey consume my thing is a complete body of work and in no other
way not the kind of behavior from someone who had the biggest hit of 2016 I think a lot of people are looking at that like you know what here's 12 really perfectly constructed pop songs in a row I'm going to capitalize on this following ahead ain't easy yeah it's hard to stay true when you have a hit
yeah I think also though like that what the hit showed me though was nothing changed when closer was a number-one record nothing changed more people don't come up to me on the street and like you know no I didn't become a different person and wake up in the morning and my skin's clear just like
you know water tastes better like nothing changed for me I just got a whole lot more snapchats of people singing the song in the car or like a Drunken bars so what I learned is like I can I can you know make art that I feel is authentic or I can make Arthur not that closer with isn't authentic but you
know I think that chasing a formula isn't authentic if I chase the formula up closer over and I said oh I think you have an opportunity to be a part time pop star you can dip your time when you yeah I think it's kind of interesting I never know it's like go and do this thing with Justin or I can do this thing
with chainsmokers but when I'm holding when I'm making a record there's Lauren yeah exactly well well what now but you know I think you bring up a really important point because you can also it can also be preparers chasing hit yeah it can be precarious absolutely we all go through
what happens to the nourishment of your soul something that that that actually got in first place like what what yeah and and you know what in any grand career there are those full of hits though there are those albums or movies that maybe less popular in a certain year but they've obviously nourished the
journey that will pack at them I mean whether it's a Bowie and low or whatever it is you look back and you go well you take that out there that the rest of the journey would have fallen because eventually chasing heads will end up with every knot will be in a bad repetitive things that have no soul what
does it feel like when you have a hit best when you have a hit movie on your hands or a head show on your hands and you know and you know it's caught fire what does it feel like feels like a wedding that never ends I was getting like it must be turns out right later baby yeah you ever coming no like you
know when one is wedding ever so I think that there's no question really in the beginning and you just think you know it's all come great and here's to me I represent so many people have reached so much and gave so much to make it so I'm happy for them however however you never come down from that
easily and I get to what I call the methadone program because you have to sort of debrief yourself back into the feeling and that's what you're talking about after that enormous wave with that yeah angle you three years ago we're living in this city Kareem if I'm wrong kind of like going from squat to a
parent to couch okay yeah and then you know you were headlining Madison Square Garden now when you put it in the timeline like that I think it should be acknowledged that's a pretty incredible job yeah I think that's what's so scary about it though you and I mean when you're like an 18 year old kid who's
like I wasn't speaking to my parents and like you know living with drug addicts and like every artist goes kind of through that like you know this this romantic time of Independence where you know you're put using your art over your own sanity and your own lately like you know I grew up reading Patti Smith you
know and it's so like I that I needed to go through that like you know it wasn't really dangerous at times but you know going from that to going to like Madison Square Garden or it can be really scary because it's like whoa I do now are you in good terms with your parents
now yeah I am now my parents are really young so you know they recurred like our self-discovery and like you know I did things in a really like unorthodox way growing up and and I was kind of always like in my own head you know what I mean like I think my parents probably felt like they didn't have much of a
relationship with me because I was like so behind my curtain all the time but I was looking like social and stuff I was just very very much in my own head and I got a better relationship with them now because they've you know been inspired by my success and they've got the
records also I mean you probably telling them things on the records that you couldn't tell them face to face that's the beauty of art yeah absolutely I mean in those messages sounds I rough album to those because I was going to this breakup and there was just so much I couldn't say to the person you know and
there's like you know those moments like on this on this record right I say something and the good ones I was in studio with him cutting a vocal and it was it was great because it was the only time he couldn't interrupt me I had I was recording you know that we were why it wasn't an argument without having
an affair sit down you're gonna listen I'm gonna bother use a technique yeah yeah those moments where I'm looking at him through the butcher of the glass was the mixing board and I'm in the booth singing like you know um sad no I get the message you wish I was dead like Wilma do that it's lie
you know like moments where I'm saying things that I could never like say in person I love me any more than life than lie I'm sure I'm shaking in the booth yeah you know what I mean cause I'm like sure I'm trying to sing when I'm off with really nervous and then like there's like this whole awful thing
where like you get out of Lucy and I sit on a chair and you're trying to be like civil and you're like so how is that there's a good article on it again it's read a sua turns just like I think it needs like an oboe in it yeah that's everything to do like did you even get
what I was saying yeah I do realize this is about you but that's I'm saying is like I definitely had to in the way that you said my parents may be fine like messages I get to know me in a different way like I have human relationships like songs so like I can have a human relationship for like 3 minutes and 40
seconds I'm really bad at long-term relationship like I and like in the way that I people can get to know me feel like a three minutes record like an hour long record or whatever I'm like the same way in real life and then as soon as the human relationship kind of extends past like a day over a couple of
days or Noble weeks that's when I start to like malfunction it's interesting you talk about like you know you the relationship you have with relationships now you keep it in the family you know so I know that you know you stay close to your family through this process and collaborative but but how is that
balance of being a dad and being a person and still being so dedicated to you know it's taking on a huge responsibility when you make it very difficult for smaller but I was coming up here yeah I've always lived a kind of circus life and we've been a sort of circus family but we're in some
difficult moments about it at this point I think just reflecting back on on what you're talking about look I think it's paradoxical I think we are all you're going through everything you've said this morning is both amplified by the fact that you've got this great gift which is you can express
artistically and we want to hear it by on the same time everyone's the same what when it's at its best it said everyone correlate to also you have to go up in the morning and yeah break up with him yeah so you go like you know I'm not really getting on with my parents I don't and it's part like those things are not specific to
none and then you them so normal but you amplify it because you're medicating through expressing a song or you know that so to a certain extent I look to myself now and go well how can they are if the art is so concerning there is no day there is none right it provides you so how can I make sure it's actually
making sense of life and I'm right in the middle of that but right now yeah it does it's not easy it does always work yeah I think it's a perpetual battle too because you you have something that happens in your life that's so meaningful to you that you want to make it into art and you get to keep so much
every time making it into art and you spend so much time doing that but you don't have time to live life to make art let's leave this table and by the way I might be a slightly on the older side well I know even authorized that you all know the world knows great iconic artists ne-never champion yeah it never
changes the way you deal with it and we are that comes out of it yeah and I are going to look I just ran to someone who's very iconic and it changed their life and I see them working again like they've sort of stopped know it and now they're what the work that's going to come any no is going to
be good but they've gone alright I just can't keep chasing her here mmm keeping that thing go can I ask you a question both of you do you guys think that artists and artistic people are inherently like very are inherently these kind of like dramatic alarmists like do you think it's an art
artist quality to feel like everything's the end of the world everything is great everything in the world like if you didn't see it that way then you wouldn't feel like hot on you Peter yeah I mean I I think the it's a dangerous slightly danger artist you know because like Justin it's the most practical sense it
does really mean to the dictionary so when it does it's really really well yeah and then and then you get that thing where it can be loaded sometimes meaning those creatives who make things that are worthy and then it becomes a lot swarthy right yeah as put that aside that what I totally
agree about is that whoever bothers to finally make anything written a story or piece of music or expressional I mean they're doing the get-down a moment which by the way was my kind of reboot experience like my step outside my comfort zone what are you thinking you know to users that extraordinary experience
I never Romania's what I would go on that journey I was so privileged so in every regard but the journey of that is that and I think the bottom line is is that the yes of it is not everyone's going to maybe see you later I love way that you do or express it but everyone's bothered by something that
definitely comes from a feeling of wanting to be feel high and love the immense internal motion of this tree you know it's funny because you both directed I continued directed this album yeah it's really your overall vision you didn't go to this producer and so I need you to go make this for me so I need you
to help get this out who was the one that pushed you the most in this record Benny Blanco definitely definitely pushed me because he's so he's fully automatic but he's also like had no rules yeah you know what I mean like him as a person he just does whatever he wants he's the coolest person I've ever
met like he's just brilliant and so pure and like so loving and like we we hit it off right away and like his you know it was like therapeutic working with him because he's no-nonsense like he'll be like you know I'll be seeing I'll be like singing us I'll be cutting a vocal
now I'll be singing about like this heartbreaking experience this guy and then I'll finish it he'd be like I was a great take you have to get over it like you know what I mean - I hope like that was a great take he cheated on you he's kind of like telling me like I know you're exercising these demons but at
the same time as your friend like leave it in the studio leave it in the studio and walk away from it like you know what I mean like put it here and then like don't carry it with you kind of thing but also just like a professional standpoint like he was having me make choices like the eyes closed I had been
I had had a much bigger voice on this record I wasn't really determined to like sing because my voice easily contained on badlands and I played 300 shows and your voices and muscle so pros you the things you get more familiar with yourself you know if I was really determined to have this like big
powerful confident vibrant voice and then I'm this one song in particular he kept pushing me to do this like Airy soft like vulnerables like vocal and at first you know I was like still in my own head and no this album is confident sup vibrant album is vindicated and angry and like that's not going to work
here that's not going to work here he kept pushing me along to try this like Airy like burst out vocal and it was brilliant it's interesting to me because we don't get a male protagonist that's until July yeah and it's Cuevas and he's also a third party because he's not the
guy I'm singing about a guy telling the guy I'm singing about that he should have treated me better okay good there's moments on the record where I kind of really dive into this like she experienced formula we're like the prologue and good morning and hopeless I have those kind of a choir vocal which
is quite literally supposed to represent a choir you know and I mean the guy on there a narration we like the record I don't wanna give too much away they're mine and these these third-party characters all are kind of representing you know representing a you know like secondary characters outside of outside
of New Year outside of my Juliet character was actually Romeo but as Juliet my gender swapped them did on the video a whole other thing but I can went three sets about is because and that was doubt a lot of largely due to how compelling Leo's performances and you're identified with him more than her I was
this I in that moment writing this record I was just kind of like whiny pining like you know hopeless romantic for the pursuit of love but my still like aggressive it feels with this kind of like this just coming out of the dawn of like what was like a teen angst movie now that I'm in my 20s I say this guy
was 19 and on you know so it's like coming out of this teen angst into this more like a dull like I just like with him every time I watched the movie I would give I wasn't anyone else he knows that's where I had to split the characters but I'm really glad you did I'm really okay because I think that
this act is actually sort of three or four things on this record but again you've never been shy of acknowledging in your movies which I think you've really attacked head-on one of the fact that you know you created the main protagonist is female lead yeah the other is rice you've
always been very very open to addressing rice in the movies yeah and you've gone straight in there mean this is effectively the characters it's a durational yeah absolutely I mean also it's interesting the way that it's reflective in the perception of like light and dark as good and bad because
I'm half black and white passing and Dom Lee is obviously like I was a light-skinned black a young light-skinned black man in the videos and so that was me kind of embrace embracing myself as kind of like a bit of a more masculine like a more like masculine type like female character and vulture right now and he was no
beautiful bottom I knew he was Juliet immediately because he was just so beautiful and so and so like kind and soft and unassuming and so what we've done in almost every element of this record is a gender swap with my album cover he's on it but he's a prop hmm in the same way that when like a male lead
group or like a rapper or a rock star whoever when they do an album cover on there there's a female body she means nothing she's just part of the story and you know even in like the way we choose to accept up some of the shots like he's always beneath me he's like six foot
five in real life but like you know when we're laying in the bed that I kind of have this let my arm around him and his heads down here and like you know it's I'm in this very like controlling dominant position in the relationship and so you know and that's how I felt in the real relationship to you know what I
mean because like I'm in this position of like success seems to the shoot of control this position of dominance there's a lot of that in this record to where I'm like in these positions of control like I don't want them I'm with this person is the kind of submissive isn't like whatever and I'm just wishing
that they'd take control plays a huge part of this records I've said that you struggle with relationships because you have to control the intra the entrance and control the exit I think there's also a lot of the reason why we went down a Romeo and Juliet path is because you know they're fighting for control of
their relationship and there's these greater forces working against them you know what I mean and those forces are you know one in control and the whole the whole the whole stories about people wanting to take control of each other and wanting to have everything go there with
the right way I mean one of the things about interesting what you say because one of the things that's Universal about the wrong engineered story as much about those young characters its motives written by Shakespeare is a cautionary tale to the adult world lumen saying if you the incumbent generation hand on a
world of hatred no continuing conflict of abuse of the world and the environment around you you're going to end up with tragedy on your hands yeah with those that you love the most your children and well that's about is this idea that and anyone who's concluded resonant right now yeah because the
incumbent generation which are carnal another very good job the world ending it's a beautiful opportunity to talk about one of the best songs on the record which you know is called strangers which is you and you and learn from harmonies and and our both of you have come out and said you know as far
as your sexuality was concerned by both bisexual and we have this love song between the two of you which is just outrageous how good for the world really but why for me was a sea of as a female thing because like I you know I adore Sam Smith at door tour sivan I love I think that the male
representation algae BT community about music right now is like you know it's kind of come a long way but there's not a lot of female representation in that way I have never heard of fun and I may be wrong but like of too openly you know LGBTQ women singing a song a love song to each other on top 40 radio like
that's an ain't no that's crazy to me and but also like when I decided to put Lauren on it because I wrote the song myself with Greg on piano Greg Kurstin and I knocked the song out in like a really short amount of time because I was kind of going through this weird thing and like you know revisiting the
sort of relationship in this you know but just also thinking about my role in relationships that had turned mostly physical you know and I mean the collation survey used to be an emotional connection or now they've turned mostly physical and I just wanted to see I wanted to see what it would sound like
if Pat Benatar and Stevie Nicks sort of love song we also like to take a girl from a pop band like a pop female all-female pop group and you know to make this record that's like subversive in the South yeah I mean it's me that's why I chose the features that I did I have quavo Lauren and
cashmere cat and the reasoning for that is because I think that they represent three flavors of the album like this electronic element which is like the cashmere you know feature and then there's this pop element which is the Lauren feature then there's kind of this urban element which is quello the Cuevas
sounding I mean sounding like you push them into an emotional limit holy moly mostly I don't know like clay votes or king of flow right now Playboy's inventing new flows for asses every single week and they're literally handing them to them through song go and use that flow and I'll come up with
another one you know the guy on the mic is like one of the most subversively like dominant rappers in the game yeah all right he's not just remarkable but you put him on this track I know instead of the club bang yeah it was a weird choices like being like you know how can I use this event I always have what Kanye West
literally all the time but for me it was like Howard Kanye is him you know what I mean like I would want I want to put him in an uncomfortable space you know anymore like I'm literally doing the Kendrick style verse in the beginning of your song and then he comes in and does
this like Milotic emo like whatever sick emotional heart-wrenching quavo moment and so for me it was like how can I use him in a way that is instead of is not the easy way out because the easy way out would be to take him put them on a pop hit me gross is huge right now dominating streaming and radio and be
like all right well there you go like here's me no it's great seeing me goes like any I didn't want to do that no it's great it's in keeping with the theme of the record I need to ask you a couple of questions about this record but I need what's the weekends involvement in this able and I obviously
I've known each other for a while we did we had toured with him like a year so a year and a half ago and he jabbers has been a huge influence of mine he's probably one of the only artists that I can truly say like modern artists and I can truly say has like an influence on my on my music because he's changed the
type of pop music yeah I mean he'll change the shape a popular dah can draw and lyrically on the noses that can be like number one for that long with this crazy for me out here trying to make my like you know dark pop records I'm like wow you can do you know I mean so that's really really cool and
there's always kind of been those comparisons in a weird way like when I was first coming up like of me it's kind of like this like female like version of him despite I was like sonically different her stuff can be but really isn't when you get down to it but one of the big influences from he was kiss land
Serena's kinds of sonic influence where he was using such unique sounds and he was using such environmental sound he's creating this landscape but get this vision of him overseas in Asia touring and like being scared and like you know have the women and the drugs and the police and then call this some kind of
like the mentality of him coming up in this like dark world of famous like rotating around him and then this darkness like I just got it I got it I was like I get it so what are you doing the record today I was in the studio bunny and we're kind of like going through some tracks that he had made and
he opened up the track that he thought was an instrumental and didn't realize that it had some ad-libs over and it opens up in the studio and it's able like um going to on it okay see I'm doing you know I mean it's like which is a very weekend yeah no words just nothing getting for
the infection of the melody and yeah just as edge is humming and city gets his footprints in the night sought eatin eyes closed and that's how a lot of song already happens is you ad-lib in the clowns create yes you're right itself you know what I mean so I started eyes closed and I was like wait a second whoa
whoa I was like I have a song and you know Abel is like really when he whisk it was it was it was a melody he was working on his doing star boy and one that him and Benny actually talked about potentially wanting to give to me but at the time I wasn't taking pitches I was I
didn't want songs from anyone I'm doing anything myself so it's kind of really organic that this record came up in the studio session and I heard it and they had this whole idea so I wrote a poem over his melody and so it was it could really traditional and really amazing kind of marriage of two songwriters
because he contributed melody I contributed lyric and then we married this you know we made this song together I would have loved to have him on and I think it was cool yeah because it's not about him it was in the same way you Bears influenced you with his work Abel did without even realizing it he created
something that captures something in unit it doesn't it's not like okay now we have a week in feature yeah that's especially I have them involved though you know what I mean it's like I got so lucky getting to have like all my influences like spheres hardheaded oh and she is like you know she's the
reason I write music I'll never forget and we all know what a monster she is and she's a machine real I was I was like in high school I was a senior in high school and I was on tumblr and I was like scrolling through tumblr and I came across this video see ya some like convention a might even that
could be in my ASCAP convention or something like award ceremony and she's singing diamonds and she was and I was like wow she's covering them I was thinking look at this video of SIA covering - covering - and then I look in the description it's like Co performing the song this rose for Rihanna and I went my
brain exploded because until that moment I just thought everybody wrote their own music though such a poignant moment because there's nothing clicked I was like oh my god like not only can I write songs not only is it sick if I write songs for myself I can write songs for other
people which I've just started doing now that you know I was thanking the finishes are writing for other people which is a really weird thing that's like being a director yeah thank you weird because if you're in a situation where you being able to control your business is so long now you're gonna
have to collaborate I know what else is good it's fun for me though cuz it's exciting it's still science and your craft and it's still an actor you want to know that you're doing enough yeah really working with uhm most time in writing with Greg for some other like female female performers because Greg
and I have such a synergy oh my gosh he's like yeah he write to the most like it's writing with him I feel timeless I have no idea what decade I'm in when I'm writing with him because it just me and him at Appiah would you love to write for he's the dream I was just in a visualization of epic proportions
Rihanna yeah I would love if she sang something I wrote I would retire you have a concept record that's been inspired by this menswear and I know that you want to see this vision through completely yeah but it would be foolish of me not to suggest or at least ask whether or not this collaboration that you've had
unwillingly could be formalized we've seen great experience where amazing artist I guess Devlin work with credible artists like Kearney aware yeah and I wonder whether even with your vision already probably mapped out for this there's an opportunity for you two to actually collaborate even on this
project of some capacity I are feeling that South American the link up at some point creatively I outside I mean you told me I get a gig how about this how about an outside comes in from left of field and makes a quick suggestion it just came to mind so you're gonna go on on tour and you're
gonna see your vision through you have things you have to complete and get done yes I've got yes and then I'm going to retire I think there you could put on any work on it quite similar you could put an alpha and go tour for me so you're working hard you're working hard I think we're going to end up doing
clinics I got an idea so at some point at some point this this tour will lead you to to you'll do I guess the things that are established and will be successful you'll be festivals and your gear on shows and up and rain is and the will do arenas it's all just a bit but but you know a bowl or an amphitheater
for somewhere special or maybe three shows or something to put it to an end yeah where where there's actually an aesthetic collaboration yeah where some set design some kind of design where they made staging and things like that and we can see the completion of this project in the collaboration comes full
circle just remember I paid him to ask you so I wouldn't have to how was it to attack how long will I feed you you don't know you have to at least a year right they take a long time they go on a funny yeah yeah yeah right there go on and on but what happens my observation is and this is where I do these little
pieces is that opportunities come up they're really unique and unusual unexpected you know adventures where there's not all that like I can't make room in my creative life or you in your life and you've got your team right now but what if natural organic is something kind of like it could if just for the
sake of doing that so that wouldn't it be okay it's highly I mean I'm already open to that I'm excited by - I really enjoyed this I was looking forward to it from the second that it came up as a possibility you know because I've always wanted to meet you as a fan and you know I'm a fan of
you and on going through this way especially having heard the record and realizing what is incredibly brave and brilliant body work it is so however you guys have influenced each other and brought us all together all of us it's been a real joy so thanks for the opportunity man we appreciate it