you sound super clear and and engaged and motivated and and your performance on this album is like really visceral like it's like it's right there and you sound very connected to the material and we've heard you in the past on albums sounding sounding equally engaging but just a different way like you know
you're in the throes of drugs or doing things and it but you're unafraid to put it on the record the title higher life would suggest that you're searching for new and alternative ways to stay clear of head is that fair to say are you are you trying to like stay clean it's the new substance for me like
just waking up and just being in the house and sometimes taking these vacations and when we could and you know just being around my family give me another high now you know I'm saying like so just somehow of life they don't even take that night you like you might get how to take the balance out of high
the high of life you might you getting high you wake up already hot just for life just from living knowing that you don't went through so much and you know everybody around from people that lives around you that you know that you hear about you see certain things there's on this that's on the TV that's on the news
and you like you know you ain't exempt for none of these problems man you got to beehive like you got to live life and enjoy life more than just complaining in grumping about being grouchy about the little thing so I'm just now just half-life right now that's my substance who do you see yourself in that's making
music who do you recognize as a kindred spirit or a peer or someone who you recognize has that same energy that same spirit thug of course that's why it's when there's like it's meeting his him it's me and it's him and it's him doing is me what else Susie for this baby Prudhoe of course mate
like it's a lot of defend that's a lot of the guys you know I'm saying but it just like with men when you mention thug you mentioned meat you know I'm saying just like it's just wine and then everybody did we're just family you know I mean that's family it ain't even like whatever would rather be super-rich more
than everybody to the next level I wanted the store I can't pay a certain amount for the show so the next person behind be doing the same kind of music or better music they'd be able to get paid way more useful on the street so your front of trenches you need to get create this mound of money this what we
can't pay now we can't pay by pop stars did that happen fast by the way like from the minute you started coming out to the moment when you realize that you had subverted and changed the game and altered the course of what was considered popular culture versus the culture itself was that quick
when you look back on it now it wasn't quick for me but everybody to come behind me it's not happening quick because yeah I found a glitch to the majors I found the recipe once you found the recipe then you got man it's like is it like trying to find a cure for Quran all night I fell to get down the
currents are making this go pop truck going pop light whatever you're doing is going pop light you could be yourself and it's going pop light you can cross over to you can get the same money as a pop star by being yourself you guys you don't know how to do no cornet you just be yourself and you get pop strumming
and in there there's my man with each it's talking about why we not getting as much money for these shows we need to get them being on for a show and you had of course I told you I found a cure for this I got the recipe I was the one who did that what about some of the younger artists on the album dirt in be a young
boy little baby I love that you're putting them on and bringing them in and it's moving fast for them but it's a future cosine it ain't even about no future cosine you can't I can't even say as a future cosine Cuddy are it was rich one of my favorite song is their albums accepting my flaws it's like taking the
energy that you had on save me but applying it to this architecture on this album right and that one moment and you say some really what I consider some really powerful things on that record you know I mean and it's a stream of consciousness for me you know it feels like you're just you're expressing
yourself in a free-form way just letting it out it's letting it oh god I had swear mom I lost myself in a month and I just manages I said it laughs what was that money doesn't buy I'm just speaking of true from what you speak the truth sir people go listen to it and be like there I was that wild I said in that
song why was it who you was thinking about it it might be and about it was I was talking about them but he might be thinking I was talking about somebody else everything that I say effort and see everybody that ever came in contact with so you listen to a song any part of that
song you like who I'm talking about it might be talking about me or this Saturday it is talking about you or it might could be talking about whoever you think I'm talking about because that's what I do I speak the truth so that's one of those records are gonna be like that and it's just like it's gonna
answer any question that anybody ever want to ask me but just don't take every word just for what it is it's just like it's hard not to because it's such a personal delivery and I understand what you're saying but it's tough if I say this name just flip the name it could be
you me I have gone to therapy I have done the work I'll tell you what I'm saying like it pertain it's a deadline that it pertains who is just like whatever name this name item I don't even know this person what I'm saying they might certain things in the song they might be pretending you just you've
been doing work and I'm not gonna go to detail but you've been doing work on yourself man for sure you'd be saying into the music set my flowers the name of the song goes to set my flowers it's like I'm not saying I'm flawless I said if it's a flower anywhere in this song just accept it for what it is and take
the good from it anything that pertains to you in this song and you take that around with it don't try to figure out if it's by something I just you create another energy for something else or create this imaginary story like whatever pertain to you if you don't pertain to you to just keep it moving
assert my father's me what's in the vault how many it just estimate like how many on hard drives in various states I told you have the sandpaper if I told you to know you have that confidential page they have really what solitaires about you and Travis it's just being a special advantage as I having a special
taste it's crazy like how you and Travis how your voices and you have this ability to collaborate with people and it's like a glue and a mouth people you know people into your space but you and Travis that tone is like a whole other thing to me when I heard it and that's a good collaboration that's a good
collaboration is just about being spent just having expensive tastes yeah I'd like to hear more of that collaboration artistically you know I'm saying trav is like you make nothing when it comes to artistic and everything like his holidays and then being engaged the artwork and just a cold crap right yeah
he's a super creative right yeah you know what you don't one of my favorite tracks has touched the sky you tell us the story about making Ellen man what'd you get one Oh am I starting to sound like an interview today tell me we could talk about less I'd rather talk about life the album is not meant right now
they have an opinion about you they don't even matter right now man so that's talking about this album and it's just gonna be like they're gonna be looking for others it on that's how I got them I'm looking for how your head is and get never kind of shade night looking for that they're not looking for
that trust me it looks kind of what kind of things I have any kind of others instead of what's the real I am with you I will protect it with you I love keep the curtain closed I get it there's only one other like legit question I need you to try to answer for me and then I want to
get back to a few more minutes about life they don't want to real nobody real what do you think we don't want to rely don't know the names of them but they don't want to reuse they want the water - won't you be careful times are sensitive right now people are sensitive to other people's lives super sensitive
you don't want to offend anyone because we love everybody and in a day we love everybody it's where that I've been in a room and seeing someone as talented as juice what was it like when you're in the studio with him it was like working what a different breed you like there's something different like juice one of
them like I say you you and he had answers for it as a special moment and it's such a touchy situation like it's hard to put everything in worries at this time like there was one of them things man I'm still right now and I'm still working out let's try to perfect it in the way I see it perfecting of
like how can I put it nowhere so what was happening with why I happened to how I happen to you know I'm saying it's not pertain it's s making music you know I'm saying I'm still trying to put it into words matters a very special moment or having so fast I mean it's the fastest I've ever seen
anyone connect on that kind of level with people anyone who got a chance to work with JUSA got a chance to meet a man as special as a blessing you know I'm saying it they're just they're just kind of individual to here like you want them especially especially guys I know that's why I said you couldn't even explain you