Foreign Family & Friends: The ODESZA Interview

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uh I'm remembering for 50 Shades of Gray I think it was number two of those uh deeper I believe deeper or darker cut that out cut that out that's unfortunate check check one two everyone's phone nice okay we ready hi everyone I'm Clara Mansfield and I'm here with clay and Harrison also known as odza hi Claire we're going to be doing some

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questions and answers today some that we've written some from Discord and we have some surprises in store so it's going to be a good time are you guys ready we are ready let's go okay you've recently been sharing videos from the a moment apart finale in 2019 what stands out to you about that finale and what are you looking forward to for the last goodbye finale this summer I

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think with the finale shows they're always just kind of uh a culmination of all like our family on the road finally saying goodbye to each other so that's kind of the tough thing is they're just super emotional you can see people hugging some people are crying you can see like Cali one of our lead drummers is crying in I think corners of the

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earth and uh yeah it's just it's it is you know bittersweet it's really fun to do it you know I think we all take a lot of pride in trying to create the show the way it is and uh I think it'll just be really emotional but it'll be it'll be nice I remember like last time near The Encore we had our tour maner side stage he hugged me and he's like

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starting to choke up then I started to choke up and then it just yeah it just gets messy up there by the end so can you reveal anything about what's coming after the finale uh I don't think we know happen that far yet yeah uh I mean I think we're all going to take time off we've seen each other every day for like five years um a little break yeah I I'd love

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to just you know go out without a a reason you know and just and just explore I think that would be a big thing at least for me yeah family time I got a a kid and a kid on the way so there'll be a lot of baby time at slaying with two eyes no why ask with the increase in DJ sets would you consider a DJ set tour oh I think so that'd be really fun um no

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so it's just clay uh yeah I mean if it's in the cards you know we the live show is such a important part of our identity so we can't like ignore that fact but they're just a little more loose you know you can ex like kind experiment a little bit more with those like try some new edits out stuff that maybe hits a little harder a little differently um so I

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think there's definitely something that'd be fun about that and exciting we need to figure out sorry pause one second Jasper the sandbag on that se stand could you just take it off and hand it to me this one oh Claire are you doing great thank you you guys are doing great as well we're killing it we're almost done we're going to take a step back a

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little bit and revisit the early years of it do it hey what do you guys think of this guy right now playing not my hair Jesus Christ clay do you want to explain what's happening in this video that is the first time I witnessed Harrison performing live so I we didn't know each other right no no yeah so Sean had not introduced us and it was a blockhead show and he was

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opening for him and so I just caught that quick set which was fun as hell it was this good it was money as how you say yeah so you'd had no idea who he was when he went to that show Doug the beats a lot of fade outs in between tracks not a lot of transitions but uh you remember VI I was loading up every song individually on my MPC and then I would

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switch to my computer and just play off iTunes like 45 seconds of an un unfinished beat and then go to the next song cuz I had to wait for him to all load it was pretty funny well your first project together was summer's gone can you talk about how that project came together and why you decided to release it for free on Soundcloud I remember

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like like around like 2007 In Rainbows by radio head came out and that kind of changed the industry because they released for free and even 5 years later I don't think the industry had like fully caught up to the fact that people like like the the biggest currency was just getting people to listen to you and so we spent a lot of time just thinking

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about like what is the best way to get someone to actually hear this record and it was just to put it out I uh if we put it behind a pable I think it wouldn't have been shared the same and it was just like embracing internet culture instead of trying to fight it and then also is like we were just having fun there was no real expectation you know

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we were making music in a basement and then we left Bellingham and we were like working out of you know Harrison's bedroom at his parents place so it's like we didn't think we'd make any more music it was like uh we're going to get real jobs in months let's just the last cuz we both had to take extra courses cuz we weren't going to graduate unless we

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stayed longer yeah so we stayed longer than a lot of other people but we spent that time uh when we were not in class working on um this album when me and Clay first met we made like three songs and I I think that's when we realized we were had some chemistry um and well I say met but it was more like we talked about jamming together and that was the

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first time we jammed and how did I get here was one of the first songs we made it's such a simple track it's just like a couple of loops and like a couple of just random it's very minimal and uh but we thought there was something special about it and I remember we were pretty tipsy at like 1:00 a.m. uh at my parents house and we were like just making music

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and we were like should we just upload it and we kind of psyched each other up like let's just put it out and uh so yeah we put it out at 2: a.m. and then the next morning we woke up we're like oh my God we released what did we do song uh and then we checked it out and I don't think it like blew up or anything but I do think it got like some small

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traction and that gave us a lot of um hype machine days yeah it gave us a lot of uh encouragement dude we're like 60 on hype machine we made it what were your early tour days like when you're first starting out oh man they were rough would be one description of them I mean we were in a van with like the openers front of house tour yeah for the first ones we were the

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opener so we're just following you know pretty the Pretty Lights tour excuse me the one I we kind of really remember we were just in my mom's Hyundai uh following his tour bus from City to city um which was super fun so you'd get done at like you know 12: 1 a.m. and then he would just be on his tour bus and they'd Drive we'd wake up like 6 and try to

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catch some uh so it was some early mornings late nights not a lot of sleep eating just garbage drinking too much yeah we were sleeping on a lot of floors we were in Walmart parking lots a lot um we were basically in a U-Haul with bunk beds and at one point that was like the height of touring for us for a while it's like when you're young you can do

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that uh these days it would be a little harder I think but um yeah it was just any show anytime you get to go play your music for people that want to hear it's like you're living on a high so yeah sounds like you were Balling on a budget I would say a little bit I don't know if we were balling but we were definitely drinking margaritas in like a Quiznos

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well knowing what you know now would you have any advice for your younger selves oh you know honestly I think you got to kind of live through it um it's probably better that we experienced a lot of this stuff hopefully made us better people and uh Stronger for it but I don't know maybe just drink a little less that would probably be a good one but yeah

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all mistakes are important you know it's like you can say don't do that but really you learning from that experience makes you who you are so go make mistakes you know go live your life it's a good answer I like that do you remember all the artists that you opened for when you're starting I think a lot of them like uh beat connection Bobo

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Pretty Lights emancipator you played before Hayden a couple times slow magic we open for Chromo chro yeah a lot of people that are still around making music yeah open for Rufus we did it like we did like a cool swap where we went and opened for them in Sydney Australia and then they came and opened for us at Red Rocks it was really cool at joywalk has a

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question for both of you I'm loving these usernames yeah they're really strong why did you decide to go in a different direction than DJing cuz we didn't know what we were doing again this is going to be the answer of like half your questions uh naiv yeah I mean the people we were like looking at were like bony ve and like Animal Collective and so even if they

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were doing electronic things they were still playing a lot of it live and because we didn't know the DJ culture how to DJ we kind of just tried to do what we had seen but also I think we were just again making a lot of mistakes and so it kind of just slowly Grew From There is we didn't know we were doing we figured out how to play our music live

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and then through that we were kind of forming our own path a little bit um but I don't yeah again it's like ignorance is bliss a little bit yeah and the DJ stuff was kind like CJs were taking off but it was definitely you know more triggering stuff in electronic like dubstep time yeah so that was you know the beauty of what we do is like

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everything was stemmed out you kind of jam on it that's what we were having fun doing um so it's like more we could do that up on stage the more we enjoyed it so with cdjs you're a little more locked in but yeah maybe maybe take a second look at that looking back it made it a lot harder but you learned a lot you know make mistakes do you remember at

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what point you decided to add live instrumentation I think the drums were the first thing that got introduced into the show I remember when we came up with the idea we were on top of Sean's house in La that's right and uh everyone was just having like a beer in the middle of the day and I think it was before we were playing a show and uh we were just

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like what could we add that made it would make it more exciting and again like bands like Animal Collective and these bands that had all these very drum heavy songs or live elements even Caribou who obviously we liked a lot we just thought it would be cool we tried to do it ourselves we weren't really drummers at all though so that was kind

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of the hard part it's like we wanted to include it but we kind of just put TOMS on stage and slowly like figured out how we wanted to play them for live and you know it's doesn't sound great all the time um but I think we again it's like that uh that naive of like being able to try something and not worry so much about is this going to be right and then

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finding your own path through through figuring it out um but not being scared enough to try it you know yeah yeah well the live show is a huge part of the odza ethos do you remember who or what inspired you to invest so heavily in the live show experience I think you know watching Pretty Lights when we opened for him he really spent a lot of time

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dialing in his live show and that was a big he put all this money back into it um but yeah it's just so we always wanted to get make it bigger and better cuz like you know the better the fan experiences the more fun you're having the more fun they're having it's kind of this feedback loop then they tell their friends it kind of grows from there so

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we learned early on that the more you put back into it the better and I think because we're always we've been such big fans of like film and just providing some sort of experience like visually along with uh the audio is is always been important for us we're g to get into film that's a good uh good segue there but we have a question from Sam

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IAM if odesza didn't take off like it did do you think he'd still be making music today absolutely yeah I without doubt just a creative Outlet probably making more honestly um it's hard to say cuz like we really graduated college and then kind of got thrown into it so we we went on tour opening we got like a a great offer I think it was B connection

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first and then we got uh asked to be on the emancipator tour and we just kind of never came back home so we were just on tour for almost 3 years and so we were just thrown into it and then it just became Our Lives which is awesome I mean I think it was a great training ground for us um but it's hard to say I I don't know I think art will always be

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something really important to us whether it's music or drawing or animation um and so I I think this was just a fun way to experiment until we found a path and we ended up being lucky enough for that well you did mention your love of film and you've written for film before how is that creative process different than writing an original uh I'm remembering

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for 50 Shades of Gray I think it was number two of those was that called something else uh deeper I believe deeper or darker cut that out cut that out that's deeper is it deeper or darker it's darker it's deeper and darker okay okay uh what was funny about that is we got asked asked to we got asked to put a song in it it they ended up wanting to add like a ton

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of notes tons of changes and we were on tour and we just couldn't do it and uh so we were like oh I don't know if we're going to do this anymore and they were like please fly to La come here we'll meet with you and we can talk about it and we'll show you the scene and then you'll be convinced that this is like the right song for [Music]

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this so imagine flying all the way to La just to watch this some strangers [Laughter] oh my God it was just funny because our music is like at 2db you know it's like barely even in it but they just made us they flew a St to watch a sex scene basically like what do you think yeah and they've all turned around they turned the lights on after watching the

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scene they're like so we're like uh I don't know yeah I don't know if this is right uh I want to talk a little bit about your creative process and how you go about making music okay we have a Discord question to start us off AR how do you R keu aru AR aru or Ark from the EU that might be more correct I don't know let us know uh how do you find inspiration

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after years in countless songs and has it changed I think inspiration is still easy which is nice that's that's great that I still like music um but the harder thing I think is kind of releasing the music and saying this is done like this is good enough to share that's the harder Point than making music is always fun um even if you're

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banging your head against the wall it's like fighting for that one moment where you enjoy it or just falling into like this moment that you really enjoy those are that's like a drug so you're always like searching for that all the time yeah but yeah the hard part's like being like this deserves ears I think that's the harder thing I was going to ask you

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that next like how do you know when a song is done at what point do you put your hands up and walk away and be like this is it it's yeah it's me and Clay do a wrestling match is it done AR wrestle for it uh yeah I mean again they're never really done so you get like listen of old stuff and like God we should have tweaked that that sounds horrible but um

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you just got to kind of Let It Go where you get sick of it one of the two um but yeah kind of going back to the the inspiration one it's like you're almost like not really looking for it and then it'll something like you'll make a mistake usually like you unmute something or like some layer over another layer and you'll get like an off

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moment a little buzz and then then you're just chasing that the entire time do you allow yourself to continue that process if it that's happening in the back of your head and you're like oh this is not really like something we've made before do you keep going with it or I think we do yeah exactly if you're feeling it like you're connecting with

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it then go like that's really the big thing like again removing that any barrier you put in front of yourself with terms of mindset that's not going to really help anything you start questioning doubting overthinking all that just really bad for creative stuff if it doesn't work you'll find out later when you listen back to it you're like the comments will tell you

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please is there an example of a song that went from an idea to a demo really quickly and one that maybe was opposite started as an idea and maybe took a couple years to come to fruition yeah man there's definitely some both things happen all the time I mean we had some unreleased stuff that didn't make the album that we've gone back and forth in

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like for 3 years and I think even the yellow stuff that stuff started a while ago and uh we kind of came back to it so that's a really good kind of Arc for that one it was like we knew we were overcooking that and that's why it didn't come out we were like we're trying to add all this stuff we should just leave it alone for a little while

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you know once once you're in a song and you've gotten too close to it you kind of become deaf to it and you lose track of where it is and then taking a year off and coming back to like oh that was that's what we should be doing that's the element to kind of unpack and run with is always really fun so yeah we'll probably do that [Laughter] again what makes your working

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relationship so successful and how do you balance your working relationship we hate each other with your friendship maybe I I don't want to go too far and say friendship maybe just like a personal we're not friends don't uh clearly we're very similar no I think personally I think it all comes down to like respect if you respect the person there will be communication you'll get

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through whatever hiccups happen um if you don't resentment grows you get mad at each other then you stop talking so we just keep talking through any situation you know it's like it's like having a roommate you know your little things will happen that could annoy you but they're never like real things they're like you left the mugs out again

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and it's driving me nuts and then that like ends up in a small like that's What sea does even if he didn't like me he'd still be stuck with me so it kind of is what it is um yeah so it's like you know through thick and thin you know it's basically a marriage it is it is it really is uh my wife calls clay my other wife exactly

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you probably spend more time with each other more than she do yeah that's probably true holy [ __ ] are there moments where you feel like you're where you're meant to be and doing what you were meant to do holy [ __ ] Claire jeez we're going deeper are you saying we're not meant to do this she's like shutting us down but yeah again you kind of go back to the

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question of like would you be making music if we weren't doing this and absolutely like it's just I there's a drive I think we have that no matter what if people were telling us not to do it like stop please you'd still keep doing it so I don't know if it's like you're meant to be there is a strong word but it's just there's a a pull to

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it that you just feel that you know you you won't have I don't have with really anything else I think yet meant to do it I think that could be a personal thing you can always make music by yourself uh meant to be listened to that's maybe the other one but like that's not up to us and you know it's kind of the beautiful thing about making music is you make something

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you put it out there and then it's not yours anymore and you get people that skip to the drop and go like I hate this and then you have people that are like I feel so like connected to this song and both things are valid and that's just art well we're going to play a little game here now bring in a buzzer whoa are we competing for this buzzer yeah you

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want to is that the prize that you want to win um you can have it and so we're going to play a little game with that we've pulled some songs we have to know the name of the song yeah you'll get it Li this one's definitely you I don't know this one it's definitely you it's got to be you do you you remember sounds like me with a CIO keyboard when I'm like eight oh oh

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this all Bloom hey I got it wow that's like the very beginning ideas of of Bloom yeah that didn't make the song either we cut that for a reason oh yeah goodbye that's that's our newest song okay I'm going to get a little bit more challenging here it's all fil I don't I don't know Reckless cords either oh anal Collective is no no

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that's that's us us it's only it's only yeah it's only wow that's you oh yeah I remember this one it's the camera camera ad we it's not is it not the it's not the beat is it is it echoes no oh heavy with the Riser this makes us look like terrible producers oh memories that you call yeah that one was hard oh that's my friends never die wow did the buzer

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die oh my God I remember this but I don't is this like an old cacom kid song my old Nintendo is I don't think this ever came out for a good reason okay last one oh uh this is uh the same guys memories that you call same sample um but it was uh I don't think this ever came out this never came out for sure it's nice it's the same guy who we also

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did stuff we did Cotto with him mhm um yeah this song never came out it's like an 80s Jam good A Part A Part okay what what's funny about that one is like I think a big reason we didn't use it is cuz when he sent over the stem it was the vocal but it was with a bunch of sounds of just water flowing and water droplets you can kind of hear it in that

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and we were like uh we can't get it out at the time we're like we're just going to not finish this song I mean speaking of water do you ever hear the story of Rory at K exp no it's it's on our kxp oh it's so good Rory's second so he's got his mic he's ready to go he's got his ears in he's warming up decided to take a little bathroom break before it was

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after it was after he after that's why he was like he was like I'm finally done he was like oh thank God but he left his mic on so he takes his mic to the bathroom and we're being interviewed in the middle of the interview we just hear CU we get all this mic noise in our ears pumped into our ears and we just hear this trickling water like what is that

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uh interviewer is like oh uh someone's got a hot mic on she just go oh oh oh oh oh oh God uh yeah still one of my favorite moments of all time well good to know I won't walk around with this after we're done don't take it to the bathro is there is there time for a pee break right now would probably be the time what are they cooking over there what are

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they what are you making do you know what's coming your way right no I just saw a cooler a mysterious cooler you'll find out M looks like a Marg little Marg here are we good to keep going here okay we can Cho well you've been on quite a few tours and traveled with a bunch of different artists on those tours is there a friendship and a bond that forms

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during those tours as well yeah yeah it's I mean that stuff has all lasted I mean everyone we've toured with I I can remember is like still a friend you know um when you're when you see someone every day and you see them beat up and Haggard and like you know trying to get on a flight or or long car ride or whatever it may be and you still get

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along with them I think you slowly become like close you know maybe I'm just going on a rant about our friendships but um I I love you dude um and even like the band like I mean Naomi's been with us so long and she's she's our sister and to like look back at some of the old footage of us like meeting for the first time and stuff and like to see how far

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it's come is yeah it warms warms your heart a bit um yeah and I think just even the horn players like Scott and R they've you know been doing it for so long they're just family it's like you they're literally brothers and sisters uh then you got the crew on top of that so I mean even like this last one all on quarter coming out with us like see

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meeting drama and hanging out with them they're great it's like you just have all these even the uh I'm a [ __ ] not remember their names now oh I thought you were crying that also oh I'm gonna now remember their but yeah it's like I mean cuz you're all stuck together you know for months on end yeah it's pretty obvious when someone's like not a good person

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you like at least at least you know I I think you can tell um but like for the most part I think we've been really lucky that most of the people that we've toured with we've got along with really well we're going to move into some live show questions now in the Cinematic experience Harrison there's a scene where you're moving sticking notes

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around on the Whiteboard trying to build the set list how do you you go about building a set yeah so we take all of our music and we run it through a program that gives us the key and the tempo of everything and then we go up to our whiteboard we write every song title and key and then we put it all across this giant thing and we we try to figure

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out the flow of the set like and what songs are really important that we need to play what moment do we want to have uh what moving elements are happening like is the drum line out there you don't want like you know Six drum line tracks back to back you kind of want to figure out the right flow and pacing when the vocalists come out so there's a

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lot of ins and out and then like when to use pyro when you know shoot a lot of fireworks like that there's lots of layers to like every choice I think that's like a big part of it the intro and the last song that you played The Encore seem like big moments in that story that you're crafting what are the goals with each of those and do you think one is more important

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than another yeah I mean those are two things we spend the most time on so those are like yeah what are people going to walk away with and what are people are going to hear first and how you set those two tones are really really really important CU that's I mean a lot of people what people remember is like the first thing they heard and then

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the last thing they heard and the rest of it's kind of like oh it was a good time but it's hard to pinpoint stuff usually so we really focus on those and then again building those moments building up to those moments in the middle of the set that okay oh I remember that I felt that and then kind of Designing around that is a huge piece

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of it is it weird that you'll never experience your own show you can watch videos of it you can watch on the screen say I haven't away and watched it uh I mean I don't know I personally feel like I have watched it just not with a crowd that would be amazing right like to to be with in the like with everyone watch watching it like that's the best

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part of a live show is like this communal event and like everyone experiencing something at the same time that part sucks but we I think we've watched our show plenty of times just like in rehearsals what's funny is too is like you're on stage and there'll be nights you know maybe it feels a little off up there it's like man this show I don't know if it's going really well

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like the crowd's really not connecting and then you'll come off be a little bummed and then someone come be like that was the best thing I've ever seen like really like you guys didn't seem that super so it's like this weird there can be a disconnect between the energy levels on stage but it's like it's in your head it's all cerebral right I I

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mean at bonaroo that happened like people have told us that's like the best show they've like of our whole tour yeah and then we walked off that thinking like okay uh how do we combat the internet that's probably like destroying us right now because what happened was so many things went wrong on stage that we were trying to fix that we were so

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caught up in all these things going wrong that we weren't able to just like be in the show we were just like making sure everything was working and like when things would break we were having to like fix them while we're playing so it was like pretty scary at least for us you know because we knew it was live streaming and all this stuff and uh we

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walked off stage and we were so bummed and then everyone everyone came up to us like you guys killed it we're like What like I I thought we were going to have to like get a team together and like figure out how a PR nightmare no I remember watching that live stream and that was definitely like I wasn't even in the crowd I was

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watching it online but I was like this crowd looks like they're having the time of their lives like out of all of the live streams but you know when things go wrong you're hyper aware of them right yeah yeah I didn't see any of that we won't tell you what happened do you have a pre-show routine uh we did on this last tour yeah Gabby our personal trainer shout out to

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Gabby she that makes that sound like such douchebags we have never had a personal trainer before until this last tour cuz we were beat up we needed it we wouldn't have made it we like injuries yeah we didn't think the tour was going to happen because we were we were like both hurt and we were really nervous about if we could actually do the tour

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cuz there's a lot of dates and so the only thing we could think of is like bringing someone out on the road who can like keep us yeah like for me it it changed my outlook on so much stuff and I think it made me such a tougher person because I think when you're beat up on the road you can really kind of like getting into this cycle of beating up on

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yourself like oh man I should be like stoked for this show but I feel so like beat up from the last like 3 weeks or whatever or and then when someone's there to be like your body can handle this like you need to be tougher and like do it honestly it was a great motivation for me cuz we were like doing workouts in the morning then like uh cold plunges then we were getting on a

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bike like almost every day it changed a lot of how I approach even everything now is that I just feel like a little more resilient and like able and that negative voice in my head is wrong and I honest is like a huge life lesson that was like really helpful for me yeah but yeah I mean overall it's just like it's pretty chill backstage I know people

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think it's crazy but like an hour before we like it really quiet you know little Zen space Maybe put our headphones on listen to that a little bit you know practice our parts and then if it's like a big show we'll do like 20 minutes before you just play the heaviest [ __ ] trap music you can or something like that just to get amped up so you

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flip the switch and then you hit it um but that's kind of it you know the amount of friends that have come to our shows and come backstage and we're just like playing meditation music and we're all like Sting lying down on the floor stretching it's like drinking tea yeah exactly incense burning they I think they have a very different impression of

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what it's supposed to be like but yeah we're pretty relaxed well like I was going to ask have you learned to or how have you learned to prioritize your health while you're on the road but I feel like you kind of touched on you have yeah you kind of have to you don't have a choice the shows won't happen reach a point where it's like you literally can't do it I had a foot

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injury that you know happened when we did the DB uh set at Coachella that's been B me for like a year and without someone taping me up and helping me through it like we're pretty up and like there's a lot of energy like expelled on stage yeah so like a lot of jumping a lot of that and like we're not we're like just Silhouettes and most people

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can't see us but we're like going as hard as we can every night and like I look back and I'm like why am I going so hard no one can see this uh but I I mean that's how we get into it you know and like yeah I messed up my back and like I'm still beat up from that but it was just like it's it's all worth it so it's like we're we're just lucky to get to

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play shows honestly well your pre-show routine might be a chill do you have a post show routine that maybe is less chill or is that also equally chill it's literally chill it's another cold plch we we yeah we were we get on a bike for 30 minutes do some stretches and then do a cold plunge I don't know if like like that's still what we're going to do but

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that's what we did on the last tour yeah can you talk about your tour tattoos and how that started way back when in uh Philadelphia why why did we do that we had yeah why why did we do that uh I don't remember I think it was just kind of a bonding thing we've never done it and I almost didn't do it you almost didn't then we were like kind of got a

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little buzzed and then got the guy out uh our assistant team at the time knew some guy came out and started like just had this cool little design like let's all do it it was definely a Bonnie experience and then from there it's like oh every tour let's get one that kind of brings people together we need to design a new one for yeah we need a new one for

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this one we have a couple Discord questions to round out the live show section here at BAM asks during the Cinematic experience Harrison mentioned he dreamed of having the drum line play alongside them are there other moments that you dreamed about and ended up happening and any that haven't happened yet man all this [ __ ] is [ __ ] crazy I

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mean seriously um like to headline a major Festival that wasn't just an electronic Festival was to me something I never thought we'd be able to do and that felt like a insane achievement and just something I knew during those moments I was so scared of [ __ ] it up because I knew that this was like a peak moment for me in my life and like I made

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sure that everyone we played I like got the posters like that's the stuff I'll like look back when I'm old and be like we got to you know headline L paloa like that's insane you know at a Anderson FX asks do you have any further goals on how you want to keep innovating the Live Concert Experience we're out of ideas dud I will say there has been like uh

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some shows we did early on where the weather would act pretty crazy which is like you don't have any control over that obviously but you know like a storm would roll in you're like oh this is going to be the end of it and then people just go crazy and it's like those are such beautiful serendipitous kind of occasions that I think so if we could

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change the weather okay that's the next that's our next goal evu our next goal is Make It Rain have the power of the weather uh so yeah we'll see you guys soon with that hold us to it what are some of your favorite live albums and what makes a great live album o daff Punk alive that one's incredible because I think you know that influenced

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so many artists and a lot of it's because their ability to have Blended so much of their different songs into like long journeys of all these different kind of like you know it that not only influenced us but like literally the entire genre not right putting their live show whoa putting their live show uh like when they made the the pyramid

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yeah and that being such a statement and then to make their live show such a blend of all their other music I mean that's clearly like something that we looked up to and then Justice I think woman worldwide was incredible but again it's like taking all these like cool custom edits putting them into a setting yeah the you know once you kind of break

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it down that way you know the possibilities are Limitless and you can kind of have so much fun making it and that's you can tell they had fun designing that show because it comes through in the music and and the experience itself so uh yeah to say they weren't seminal and very influential parts of how we do would be a mistake what do you enjoy about doing a remix

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and how is that process different than creating an original good question we haven't done a remix in a while we did self for Soul by Sudan archives which is awesome but I think what's so great about doing a remix is you get to reimagine a usually already good song so you're kind of in a great place from the beginning yeah the vocal or something's like

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really catching yeah but yeah I mean I was going to say even then it's like the best part some of the best parts is just like oh you get the stems to so you get to hear how they kind of went into it um but I think we try to approach a remix like the song and it's original format is doing something really well if it's a catchier song or you know it's it's

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connecting with people so we try to be like okay it's doing that well let's try to put it in a new setting and reimagine it and I think those you know some of the best remixes that I've heard from people over the years are the way they do that you know even like I go back to some of the foret stuff where it's it's like he even took even stripped it down

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so it's like just the vocal and maybe one element and that's really nice to hear and so there's some really cool ways it doesn't have to always be like we're going to turn into a dance mix you know it can like okay maybe it's an ambient version of that maybe it's something a little more lowii you can take it in any One Direction and just

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giving New Life to it and setting it in a new place is is always really interesting you know like the obvious thing is to be like let's make it like hit really hard and be like a dancable version and I think we try to shy away from that and just see if we can make it just like something completely different but I think what's so great about doing

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a remix is most of the time people know the song already so they get to see what you did to it which is not what they see when they hear an original song they don't hear that like you made one version of the song a person sang on it and then you completely changed it again so they get to see what you did which is I think somewhat sometimes more

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impressive to people you know at David hedge at asks will there be a Bronson part twoo I would love to do another Bronson record but if Tom can get his act together we'll send this directly to uh I think it would be awesome to do another one but it just takes so much time to like commit to three different people's schedules and all go work on

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something and then once as soon as you make that then it's like cool we got to make all the artwork and the music videos and then the live show it becomes like a big task more podcasts yeah yeah we're back together uh yeah it's just an undertaking and we know it and it's really hard to like make sure that we all are on the same page and on the same

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wavelength to all do it together but yes there should be another record yeah what's a collaboration that was close to happening but never panned out trying to think we got Ellie Golding remember that almost happened K khed yeah there's that one I still I still got I think we can do it it's out there we got it if you're listening finish this this segment of

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the podcast C please take it out I heard something about maybe Miguel at some point oh yeah that was [ __ ] hilarious that was a fun so yeah South America we well Mumford and Sons Marcus Mumford was like I don't know if he was a fan or he he was talking to Tom MLL from Rage Against the Machine and Tom Mela was like at the time working on electronic album and so he was like go

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check out odesza this is what I Marcus told us he said go check out odza they're on the same tour as you and then he was s stage at like all our shows yeah just like rocking out the sweetest dude in the world yeah he's like the coolest dude ever he's super nice and uh we ended up going back with him to his uh hotel room and like jamming out for a

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little bit and he's like yeah we should do this again on the next stop and then we went with him and just Miguel showed up I think he like flew in Miguel yeah to like Chile or something it was crazy I remember Miguel in the elevator with us we had just met him and we're like at this super nice hotel that they're at and we're just like really nervous cuz

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we're [ __ ] idiot children our our laptop and our gear like hi Miguel's like I like that Zoo remix you guys did and we're like oh thank you so much sir and then we sat down and like we couldn't get our laptops to to work correctly cuz like they were trying to record vocals like professionally we had never really done that on our little

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shitty laptops and so I think Miguel was a little frustrated that we couldn't get it to like not have latency and stuff and but in the end it was like really fun like we were jamming I remember Miguel started talking about his first kiss yeah there's some cool moments yeah we were like playing music underneath him talking about that I I remember that

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song being cool there's some there's some there's some heat straight eat we're on our mid 30s mid-30s some straight eat fire yeah there we go I'm going to pass these note cards over oh not cards okay now you guys are going to ask each other some questions clay let's start with you start with me Boom at pyro does Harrison use beard oil

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question mark if so which one yeah I do use a beard oil it's very rarely uh but it is a Buffalo Trace beard oil that Claire actually got me for secret Santa like pyro okay ready all right shoot next one uh Mary [ __ ] kill Luke Shawn and me well I'm married to you obviously uh I mean [ __ ] sea kill Luke okay that wasn't the question but I just wanted to know

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that's better uh What uh do you have secret accounts to scroll socials Discord uh I have a secret Twitch account and I have a secret Discord and Reddit n and I I see what you guys say on Reddit all right and Instagram it's kind of mess up me okay at buub if aliens came to Earth and didn't know what music was what song would you play for them one

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aliens are on earth so let's get that out first off they would play a song to us ever seen Clos Encounters of the Third Kind sorry what is the last part of the question I uh what's the song you would play to an alien that's kind of the song I played an alien man maybe some Beach Boys little classical yeah g was pretty good made some made some

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Beethoven little CLA tooon that's for you yeah really good one uh yeah I don't [ __ ] know sorry uh my turn oh sorry yeah I was getting excited what what are you thinking about during hopeful during the man I'm just trying to slow my breathing down during the set cuz I'm like so I'm just sweating profusely during that moment and I'm just like oh this is so nice to

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just stand here for a second that's actually it and I and I think uh I think I'm looking at Scott and sometimes he does little funny things and I'll laugh at him one time he came in on the wrong part and then I burst out laughing and he looked at me while he was playing and you could tell it was a struggle for him that was pretty fun play through

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it what happened with your computer during your 2013 Capital block party set oh yeah throwback uh we had too much base on stage and it flew off so that's what happened with that one and had to stop then I it was the last song anyway so well what was funny about it was how it how it started glitching you remember so it fell off and then it started like

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it started moving like as a house song so it was just like and so people were like oh and everyone started clapping and it was just glitching made this and so everyone started clapping and I had to close also my laptop and be like no it's over the show's over so it's pretty sad what do you have against wearing Color Me in the live show specifically oh in the live

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shows I think well we got to be dressed in black because it fits with the stage it's like you can't be wearing white and red and you know a whole costume up there everyone else makes fun of us if we wear anything different we tried plus we're sweating a lot what's an irrational fear of yours uh I am definitely afraid of heights to a te

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I used could couldn't Fly for a while too and we just forced through that so but yeah Heights are horrible we both are afraid of flying and we still fly constantly star seed uh would you ever go on hot ones yeah I mean that'd be great we Sean Evans like right before he blew up came in to one of our shows and we got to do the last dab with him yep

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through show the clip and and uh he was a great dude and I'd love to love to do hot with him all right if you had given each other a nickname in college what would it be well we did give each other nicknames they don't know yeah that you know what no one gets this thank you both you job job clire Claire great job it's not easy it's not easy to do [Music]