so we're in Vancouver you're rehearsing down the road yes this is all kind of in relation to your life said isn't it this drapery undressing yeah this is from Magdalene tour which starts tomorrow our rehearsals gone I'm not started yeah really my favorite mantra is preparation plus opportunity
equals success sure I'm starting rehearsals today to refine everything but the preparation for this tour has been like for this I'd say like a year long so I'm just not stressing because I know that I never do you know I mean I know it's all in there so what leads you
into a place where you want to learn martial arts I love practicing things I love learning new things I love learning about different cultures through a practice that's tied to that culture um I actually discovered wushu through a director called Chloe Zhou she's Chinese and she said to me like oh you know you
should have a look at we share that with your movement and stuff I think you'd really love it I must keep you really in the moment very much so yeah but same with polo that's what I think that's why I like it it's like that kind of present mind how do you know when you're ready
when you're learning something like that when I feel like I'm starting to like live it instead of just doing it but when I can take risks and then I know that I'm expressing myself how important are risks to you on you know in the way that you move through your life I think I'm a big risk taker
in my early life I was like there are any person of color in the town really where I lived so that already puts you in a position where you are here to risk risk you know with them you know working-class mom single parent yeah only black going to school they're not
snow clapping you down the hallway I think like a really pivotal point for me was maybe when I was 17 or 18 and I just remember my mom like putting the TV on Mew and she said to me Thalia like you don't want a normal life she was I just go and see the world and travel and just
use your talents and like I've wanted to do something with my life there would bring me joy when I listen to this album I feel like I'm listening to try to understand and control something that was actually pretty out of control I'm lucky that I get that release you know I feel grateful that I'm able to
put my experiences and put my hardships in to work was it like when you started making this record how out-of-control was it pre out control yeah say you know people say like oh you know that bad things come in threes and you're like okay that's like one bad thing and then
it's like another bad thing and then like your friend I'll be like yeah but this is like the third bad thing so you know that's it and you're like okay cool and then the three months goes by and then you're like okay this is like an extension of burners or we're starting again
not like that it did so like that what are we talking about here what was going on um lots of things I had a lot of health issues for a long time I didn't know why I felt so unwell yeah and that was the most frustrating part actually and I felt like I was letting myself down and then I started to feel
like I was letting like my team down and I don't know I just knew that I was here any person that could get myself better but sometimes that's good you know that's one thing I've learned is I am like I am in myself he'd been your own company yeah I mean I'm gonna say yeah yeah I love it
you know throughout the record there's it's heartbreaking at times writing those songs going through that experience putting that down so I think to begin with it was like I was like finding like phrases and words that kind of like shocked myself and after I've like wrote cellophane and I was like I
said surely ok or at home with you or like Thousand Eyes then I was like it's ok and then writing things after that like mirrored heart or fallen alien it became kind of like easier and the acceptance of myself to be able to put that on you can't help you fall in love
with but you went through that right that kind of like unmeasured like when you're with somebody your lives become very in twined without your friends and family and your routine and and the unmatching is like you have to really find out well I had to really find out
like who I I've always known who I am but it's just kind of discovering like who I was in adult crisis I feel like I've never known myself better you seem to be somebody who faced that adult crisis with curiosity he didn't disappear into a black space well no not tall I mean as most people know like
spike could be like 3 or 4 weeks after my operation was like come to LA I was like wow they don't happen really soon after yeah like I think I was on set like four or five weeks after my operation and I didn't really want to like say too much to anyone about what had happened
because I didn't want to be that oh no like don't do it so I kind of kept it like a secret until like the first day of the shoot it's so mad as a fan like we would see you in pictures and not hear you and music which is a strange thing isn't it especially for someone like you I'd imagine who never really
sought out for that kind of attention it really had nothing to do with me anyone really that was you know into that side of it isn't really like somebody that is a follower of my music in that way so just felt like this different side of the world that I was suddenly exposed to
that I really had no business being in there's some really emotional moments on this record and you get emotional listening to your own music sometimes on this one I do not bet for me like the saddest part of this record is the bridge and sad day then it's not something you can plan when you're like
writing either it's not something unusual you can't think like oh yeah you just put the chord like this where you create that space like it does just happen but I cry a lot on stage tuner at home do you enjoy that leaving the emotion come in front of people sometimes yeah I mean it's amazing I'd
imagine it's amazing your ideas and your creativity is like just keep trying to find a way to get to manifest these ideas all the time yes is that the most fulfilling part of your life that's the part that you're most happy it's just like a big weight off my mind I guess I
know that I've done that and it's on record same I thought about um cellophane you know the visual for sad day as well just to be able to know that I've done that and I can just like not think about it anymore your voice on this album is like it's not about expressing yourself to more
power it's like expressing yourself through more emotion I feel like just talk us through how you found a new voice for this record to help you convey what you wanted to say well ironically I think that like my new voice is my old voice I was a part of like a very like
avant-garde cabaret scene like in my early 20s so I think when I started to make my own music I just didn't want that how did you find yourself singing cabaret and doing all these different things cuz I always have like I was training an opera from when I was like 11 and I was sing
with a jazz band when I was 13 most kids aren't in that environment they're thinking about pop music and you're at doing other things in a much deeper way those moments were my freedom at school I was such a nerd I was bullied so badly I had to leave my school those moments
on stage there's moments where like of being like celebrated for like having something and no one could say anything that was like my safe haven that was my escape being able to be so young and like know what I wanted to do and have a focus so on up you 1/2 a degree we're
not seeing that side of you it's it's being disguised someone well I think like lp1 was me like becoming an adult mean that's why I called it LP one because I just didn't know if I should have a title and then now in Magdalene I've been able to kind of reach back into my earlier years and pull out my
opera training and just more of like the classical things that I enjoyed growing up the idea of bringing this iconic religious figure into music and applying it the matically terms of what Magdalene means as a title when I realized that so many other women had kind of gone
through like what I'd been through as a woman I was taught that your prince charming would choose you and when he did you were grateful and it was more about like being chosen than you asking like what's right for me and what do I need to be nurtured or to feel complete for me Magdalene is unraveling that and
finding my voice without society's whispers so what excites you now and how is your life changing now that you're starting to Antep all these things out I feel now like my time is so precious I feel like my body is so precious I feel like words are so precious I just have like a newfound respect for like
keeping the right temperature around me that like suits me I feel more open I feel softer I feel like I giggle more now Magdalene is finished I feel like I can have a new blueprint for who I want to be as a human and how I want to live my life and how I want to make my art