[Music] today we're extremely excited to welcome eric garcetti the mayor of los angeles before i turn it over to our interviewer rex woodbury and eric i just wanted to add one personal anecdote about eric back in the 1990s after i graduated from college i went to oxford to study for two years
and eric was a year ahead of me he and his future wife were both rhodes scholars now this was at a time when bill clinton who was also a rhodes scholar had just been elected president and so that was very much on people's minds and right after i arrived at oxford i went for a walk
around the oxford campus with another american who was in eric's class and he said to me john he said you know there are a lot of americans here who think they're going to be president of the united states he said you're going to meet a ton of them and he said but but there's actually one person in my year
who is going to be president united states and that's eric garcetti so i don't want to set the expectations too high for eric's uh interview but um but uh he's certainly on still on that trajectory that was identified way back in uh maybe those many years ago and and uh we're really really proud to have
him come speak to us today at the gsb thank you eric yeah thank you dean lovin and welcome mayor garcetti we're we're very glad to have you here today yeah thank you it's great to be with you and dean levin you're doing so well to that last part you know why would you wish that upon any friend
well it has been a somewhat eventful few weeks in uh politics so we're happy to have you here yeah it has been it has been a remarkable um you know a lot of people wonder what history feels like to be living through it this this is it i mean life doesn't radically change when you're living through a historical
moment but it is an exceptional um an exceptionally electric moment um both in shocking ways and both in in what is possible so it's a really good time to be having this talk yes and as dean lemon alluded to you've been a leader on on various issues and you've been mayor for seven years now
reelected in 2017 with 81 percent of the vote you lead the third largest metropolitan economy in the world after new york and tokyo and i do want to get into all of that but i want to back up and and kind of understand how you got here so you've said a lot that you have grown
up wanting to change the world um when change the world happens to be part of the stanford gsb motto here i'm curious what are your earliest memories or or what was the first part of your upbringing or parenting that led you to really want to have that impact on the world
well you know i can't remember a time when i didn't want to um i think it's in some people's dna in most people's dna that we don't accept the status quo and and i think we look at the world it doesn't have to be in a negative way but we see what is imperfect about it we see what the holes are we often see
if we look carefully what we don't see and we can hear what we don't hear so who's missing and what voices aren't there and maybe it's a little bit a combination of being this hybrid human um half latino half-jewish being kind of a border crosser which i say provocatively obviously my
ancestors crossed borders but being able to navigate between cultures always made me see really um you know as a jew the whole idea of tikkun olam of healing a broken world and as a mexican-american you know seeing what that you know i i've passed in plenty of places where people don't know that i'm
latino so hearing what people say about you when they think you're not there as well as being able to be inside um institutions and organizations i've always seen what needed to be changed i think the other thing i'd say is definitely my parents and and those family background my grandfather who was
a dreamer before that term existed from mexico who never finished junior high school but his life becoming a citizen and enabling me to be where i am today a mayor of that city that took him in on my mother's side another grandfather who was a great entrepreneur he made suits and built up a company
that then he became tailored to the president of the united states of america president johnson but he also then took a full-page ad opposing the vietnam war full knowing he would lose his most important client but i was raised with the idea that you stand up for what you believe in no matter what the
consequences and you i have to go a little off script here you mentioning your grandfather and president johnson a lot of us here want to be leaders in our community and many of us that will come from the private sector from from being business leaders it sounds like that was an early
iteration of taking a stance on an issue as a business leader even though it might hurt your business i'm curious you know we've seen this view of changing from shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism and in different views of what it means to be a business leader in the political
realm um what's your view on on should businesses take political viewpoints and and how can they do that i mean it's tough if you're the head of a publicly traded company versus starting something that's your own i would say as much as you can do because politics is not something that just exists
with people like me or in city halls the white house congress and state legislatures it actually exists everywhere politics you know the word for city in greek has the same root as what we now use for politics police so people came to cities in order to engage with each other and part of that
obligation of citizenship was to engage in politics and it's such a cynical moment when people are like oh i hate everybody and all leaders stink and politics is dirty and corrupt and think people are bad you got to look at yourself and say no each one of us if whether you believe in god or whether you're just a
raging humanist a democracy which we're lucky enough to live in should reflect its people and if you believe in people either in god's image or because of your humanism it should be a reflection of our very best so just because politics feels like something you don't do i think in the business environment
you always are forced to what's your supply chain what's the impact of the workers who put together if you're manufacturing the material that you sell why are you waiting so long to get diversity into your c-suite in the city of la i looked and government's supposed to
move slowly and in the first six months brought gender equality to over 200 board commissioners who you know run the police department the port the airport you know that can be done quite quickly if we could do that in six months why can't you do it in your company so i think politics comes in in a very
personal way first and foremost and if you have the foundation for that it's a springboard to then organize across business and in the private sector around climate around racial justice around whatever it is uh to have a voice because the private sector can be extremely powerful when you do
and you mentioned there are some of the issues that are on your plate as mayor and to back up in 2013 you're elected mayor um at a sort of a difficult moment for los angeles in 2010 there were a million more residents in los angeles than in 1980 but 165 000 fewer jobs los angeles had one of if not the highest poverty rate
in the country when you step into that role with so many different problems and 4 million constituents each with a different view of what you should be prioritizing and working on how do you as a leader decide what to prioritize it's a great question um because you know it's it's funny when
people say only a few people run the entire country i've you know been to the white house enough times that i used to reject that it's actually true i mean a lot of people actually run the country but the main decisions and the direction of a city of a country of a company really do come down to a
few people who hopefully listen to a lot and then synthesize that and are able to produce a new direction for me in los angeles it was natural i'd already been here for 12 years as a city council member this was my first executive job really in my life though at this level and it
kind of felt like a um an off-the-rack suit that fit like a custom-made one i mean it was something i had been waiting for uh in many ways my whole life and love just being an executive and finding talent and inspiring people but the way i organized it was three-fold one what's the core of what you're
supposed to do and focus on that in politics so many people think about oh i want to do the big sexy legislation when people expect government to serve them certainly the municipal level fix my potholes take care of my public safety issue make sure the bus comes on time i mean
we literally make sure the train's right on time so i had a back to basics message which for somebody who considers myself kind of progressive and idealistic and loves the visionary part i i always had to discipline myself and i think it's the same with a company what's the core of what you do
and get that right if you get that right you can elevate to the next level and for me then what were the big challenges facing my city whether it was jobs which since 1992 we had gone down in jobs um and building up a new peak in jobs which we did um whether it's traffic whether it was climate change
whether it's housing and homelessness tackle the big problems and you might not finish them while you're there but lay down the foundation for that which takes you to the third level govern and lead as if you're looking at yourself 5 10 and 25 years from now don't worry about the headlines of today
don't worry about the criticisms of tomorrow really think about what i do today will it be judged five and ten years from now as the right thing and if so don't worry about the noise mike bloomberg who overlapped with me you know actually passed that lesson on to me he said the things that i was
least popular for are the ones that now people look back and are more most glad that i did and that really stuck with me to take one of those issues as an example you know housing and homelessness it's such a broad problem it is systemic you know it is um it's still very much
an issue especially given this pandemic and the economic crisis how do you approach such a long-term systemic issue and and break it down and you know it's it's still ongoing i'm curious how you um have seen some progress but what's still to be done there yeah i think the biggest issues whether
it's climate change which you know you can toil away for five years people are saying they're still heating up homelessness you can do amazing things and people say it's still there and encampments are growing or things like gender and racial equality which you can continue pushing forward
and then see you know that we still have racism and sexism and homophobia and all these things to me um i'll answer that two ways one is you first have to deal with what's in front of you and i looked kind of back in history i think it's really important when the pandemic was coming i did the same thing
educate yourself about those who have come before because nothing is new this might be a new iteration it might be a new incarnation but it's an old challenge and there's old history to learn from um and so you know here in los angeles we had talked about policies for things like inclusionary zoning to mandate
affordable housing when market rate housing is built tom bradley our greatest mayor tried that 40 years ago and not gotten it through uh we passed that we looked at for a long time people said we need a dedicated source of funding for homelessness we've passed not just one measure to
build 10 thousand units of housing but two a county-wide services sales tax to allow uh the services to go with that housing etc we did all of those things that people really had talked about for decades and those are so important again we might not see the results of them in
two or three years but you'll see them in a decade long of steady work but second i approach it systemically and systematically which is to look at something like homelessness i've you know at the local level it's funny i run a city and people say mayor that's your city there's people on the streets fix it
then i explained to them let's boil down homelessness it's trauma meets high rent the city of los angeles doesn't control our child welfare system our veteran system our jails and our prisons it doesn't control what happens with sexual and domestic violence it doesn't control you know much of the
economy we can uh do zoning but we don't uh do the capital outlays for big housing so most of the cause is in and the cures out of homelessness have nothing to do with anything i have direct power i have sanitation workers and police officers but cleaning and arresting your way out of homelessness
is not a solution so i've come to the point where i'm really speaking bluntly with people saying if you want homelessness to end it's not going to come from me or the next mayor or the next mayor it has to come from a national right to housing and every country that i looked at in the world that's eliminated
homelessness has a right to housing and think about this with hunger and with health care in america we decided at some point people shouldn't go hungry if you qualify for food stamps 100 of people qualify get them so they don't starve if you qualify for health care and you're poor you get
medicaid we call it medi-cal in california same thing with poverty for seniors and social security but here in america the biggest housing initiative we have called section 8 which is a voucher you can take out there nationally one in four people that qualify get it in los angeles it's one out of eight
and so that means people wait decades and seven out of eight many of them live on our streets so i worked with both bernie sanders and joe biden and became national co-chair of joe's campaign and when he when he asked me to do that he said what do you want i said i don't want anything personally
but i want you to put in a platform that we would expand to an entitlement section 8 housing and i do believe that we can solve people's mental health we can solve people's um job training needs we can solve what brings them to the street their addictions and other things in some cases if we get them in housing
first but there's no city that will ever have enough money to do that without national help and something you alluded to there is not only are you working with your city council and people on the ground in los angeles but you're increasingly working with other mayors with governors with
the federal government and you know you led a coalition of mayors against homelessness you've been at the forefront of the climate movement led by mayors after the u.s pulled out of the paris agreement how have you seen the role of mayor what does mayor mean in 2020 and how has mayor's mayorship changed
since um you know 2010 or 2000 just over the last couple decades you know bill clinton once said the two best jobs in politics are president of the united states and mayor of a big city in america um it's funny i shared that story once in the oval office was then president
barack obama who was asking if i wanted to be his urban czar and kind of oversee all the urban policies it was the week that the obamacare website had gone down just after went live and he said you can scratch uh the first one from that list so um you know i think the power that you
have as a mayor is amazing i mean i run the largest port in the americas the fourth busiest airport in the world and second biggest in the country the largest municipal utility um and that's before you start with the normal stuff the police fire you know talk about police and reform and racial
justice like i get to do that in real time um let alone fixing people's problems and things like that but the network between mayors has never been more important and has never been stronger it really has been part of my story and i think the story of cities and the globe right now for instance i chair the
the title that i'm proudest to have besides mayor well proudest is his husband and father but the professional title is chair of c40 cities this was is a group of cities the largest cities in the world there's 97 of us now so the number is a little off but 97 cities that comprise a quarter of the
world's gdp so collectively more than any nation and we're combating climate change together but during this covet 19 crisis we hit the bat signal and put together the most moving zoom call i've been a part of 55 mayors of the greatest cities of the world were on the call together in the middle of the
beginning of this pandemic so we had the mayor of milan when northern italy was the place that you know people were in the hallways of hospitals the mayor of seoul when they were the model for testing the mayor of new delhi who had just shut down delhi and two days later a billion
people got a stay-at-home order when his national government followed and so whether it's gender equity migration climate change whether it's global or domestically i chair also climate mayors which is now 450 mayors when president trump said we're getting out of the paris climate accords
we didn't cry in a corner we just picked up the phone and republican democratic independent mayors from 48 states said if he's out we're in so i always tell people don't see the power you have before you try to exercise it when everybody was so upset those who didn't like president trump
that of the trauma he was giving a lot of people and the power he was trying to exercise over us said even if it was hillary clinton as president that power would have been in our hands that responsibility would have been in our hands and we haven't lost that with president trump so that network is really changing
the world moving it and cities i think we're going to accelerate their importance for the next half century about a little over half the world now lives in cities i think it's going to 70 percent over the next 20 or 30 years and and you've called cities the laboratory for democracy and
and innovation what is the future of cities you know what's los angeles or a big city going to look like in 2030 or 2040. well it's really up to all of us to to explore and to mold both from the public private and civic sectors uh but the vision i'm uh have here you know i'm very excited
we have this date um now less than 10 years from now when the olympic games and the paralympic games will come to los angeles my first act as mayor was to write a letter to the olympic committee saying we wanted to pursue the games we lost the us nomination to boston then they dropped out it was a long
circuitous road of resilience but la loves the olympics and as a kid i saw them come to my city in 1984 it was the best experience of my life and it's a it's a point on the horizon where we can kind of align a vision of what we want a city to be to me i think cities are going to be the systems
because cities are a system of systems are going to pretty radically shift uh the two-dimensional disruption we've seen in commerce and communications think one-click ordering and timing is now going to come into three dimensions uh we're going to see transportation modes change whether that's underground
and things like hyperloop or the um you know boring company or whether it's airborne taxis that move through our spaces we're working with companies like google to literally map out the three-dimensional space of cities so that we can understand and um make sure people are safe in that space but
use that for everything from moving commerce to people i think they'll be more equitable and more livable cities i think people really want to have the concentration of jobs of housing and of recreational activities all in the same neighborhood rather than the old city especially in california
and los angeles embodies this where you put one thing over there and 20 minutes by car over there and 20 minutes by car over there because now you can't get three blocks in 20 minutes um i also think that it'll be a place still of radical innovation a place of deep investment and why i
would not ever walk away from cities or l.a specifically is what i've tried to put in place is a four to five decade uh long strategy of infrastructure so we're going to be building 15 rapid transit lines the largest infrastructure initiative in u.s history times two i passed a few years ago
called measure m everybody thinks of us as the car place and what we wrote into that is it could be light rail it could be bus ways but we also left that open for the technologies that will emerge what we guaranteed was the funding in place we're going to recycle 100 of our water we're going to have
zero carbon buildings zero carbon electricity zero carbon transportation so it'll be much more sustainable and then finally and that is my hope we'll see cities that really are a place for much more of a middle class and more more justice and equity for folks because right now cities are either left behind
cities or hyper successful cities that are barbell cities both on equity and on opportunity and we have to fix that we have to fix that i believe through education mostly but we also have to fix it by the way we structure our economy and we're trying to put that in the dna
of la and who gets to work here and just again to my first point who's missing what voices don't we hear what forces what faces don't we see and making sure that's a part of our strategy and to your point there i think we've seen during the last couple weeks in these elections you know not just a divide
between rural and urban but los angeles is very much a microcosm for for where america is going i think in the 90s la became a majority minority city meaning there are more people of color than white folks and and that's where the country will be in the next 20 years or so how do you in this deeply
partisan moment that we're in that is largely around very different views of these demographic shifts that our country is undergoing how do you lead for people at both ends you know you have constrict constituents at either extreme with different views um during this partisanship how are you a
leader you know there's two ways my advice to people stop being so fearful of engaging with each other because in a vacuum of real engagement it's you know twitter flame wars and comments on facebook pages and hyper um ideologies and i i don't mind by the way extreme ideas
um on any part of the spectrum as long as they don't take away my my rights and they're not intolerant i think you need new ideas but when that becomes ideology and that becomes something um in which the form like i think the left which i'm a part of um sometimes unfortunately copies the methodology
of what we've just seen from donald trump because we think we have to fight back in the same way and there's a cost that we pay my great second point is my greatest fear right now is that there's a great dehumanization going on and part of that is because so much of our interactions are virtual
this year but increasingly from technology so much of it is virtual so the cues that human beings are created for to see in three dimensions and to feel and to smell and to see and to just kind of intuit are lost when we reduce people to not just two dimensions visually but two-dimensional personally so you
know for instance let's take the hardest issue right now in america in many ways policing and racial justice so there's no question we have dehumanized people of color in this country since the beginning of our history people have that that lives consciously and unconsciously in our
hearts our actions and our perceptions so how do we recognize that within the culture of our police departments and public safety departments but then when you read that 40 of people support the police of generation z and 60 don't and it's kind of cool to march on the streets and say all cops are bastards
those are 20 something year old human beings that do have guns and a badge who've devoted their lives to trying to protect lives by and large they've been motivated by something good and how do we bring those conversations together instead of pulling it apart because now we have
police officers who feel totally under siege and we need them to be the agents of change and to build on the successes of changing culture and even exceeding some of their power to others to provide those services and how do we continue to not lose this moment so that people of color don't see this
as yet again one more year when people took to the streets asked for some stuff and there was just a little bit of reform so to me that's just one case but we dehumanize each other right now i'm dehumanized all the time sometimes it's in positive ways oh my god mayor you're so amazing and
you've done such great things and you're so perfect and as i love to always barack obama said ask my wife about me and the dishes like we're human beings but we also get dehumanized in a negative way people who decide who you are who attack you and leadership has never been more challenging than right now
i think for ceos for mayors when i talk to my fellow mayors i have a little support group of 15 or 20 on a tech stream and you know we have people visiting our houses and spray painting our walls you know we've got people who are camping out and chaining themselves to our lobbies i mean those things didn't happen
specifically to me but other mayors and it is and and similarly in the private sector you have a real woke moment that's also meeting lord of the flies and leaders are trying to figure out how do i navigate what is about racial justice and what's just about good management and personality
and so i guess i come back to the leading right now takes a re-humanization and reminding people of those moments of human connection and even if we're a different perspective even if i've done something wrong and you want to teach me what's better we have to do that for by leading with love
not with the anger that we have and mayor city i want to leave a few minutes for audience q a but we're asking one final question to all speakers who come this year and it's it's relevant to what you just said the question is during your toughest moments many of which likely have come this year
as a leader what are the principles that you turn to um you know the principles that i turn to as a leader i mean i've got in practice i would say always innovate always accelerate always collaborate and always communicate i mean think about covid i didn't wait for other cities to figure
it out or even bother whether it was my jurisdiction to set up testing centers be the first city to close things down the first to mandate masks the first to erase the racial gap with african-american deaths the first to test people without symptoms i just did it so it was innovate and accelerate
but i couldn't have done that if i hadn't spent seven years collaborating you know people love to hate the big city mayor in a region because you might only be 40 of the population but you get 99 of the headlines i've met with 87 other mayors in my region quarterly that i convened for seven years so they trust me they know
me i listen to them i elevate their voices so collaboration's really important and then for 74 times i've been before my public communicating hard truths in the middle of a crisis i got sick of my own voice but i kept doing it now it's thankfully once or twice a week that will probably ramp up
given the rise right now but it was daily for the first few months and i think communication is everything own your story tell your story and think like an author you're a narrator once you get to be at the highest levels of leadership you're a narrator of a story you need to motivate people
around and then the personal things that i would say is be humble but be fearless learn to listen it's more important than learning how to speak really learning how to listen and then i'll come back to what i said in the previous question lead with love that really is you know my my motto
my team makes fun of me until they start to adopt it and they see that it really is all those things as a good leader mean nothing if you're not leading from a moral place of love mayor garcia we have a few questions from students the first question is from neha de la
thank you so much rex and mayor garcetti thank you so much for being here today my name is neha i'm in nba2 coming from a background in public policy uh we have a new president-elect thanks in part to your work i'm not going to ask you whether you're going to join the administration but what i will ask you
is beyond what you already mentioned around housing how can a biden administration best support cities like l.a well you know i remember what it was like when joe biden was in the white house because it was just 2013 i was a new mayor i was invited um with about a dozen mayors from around
the country who had just been elected from detroit and la and chattanooga and new york and other places and i was expecting to go there for a photo op and we instead in the roosevelt room had a two-hour private conversation where they just listened to every city and every city's incoming mayor talk about america
i think first and foremost rather than programs or people it is that perspective that i'm just looking forward to because once you develop that relationship and that listening um you don't know when you'll need them you don't know what you'll need them for you don't know the great idea that you want to
take up to the national level for them but establishing that relationship and joe biden really is who you see he has that heart he's a great talker and a great listener um and and knows what he's talking about so i think that's the way this first starts helping cities specifically though i would set
up something like a local government council in the white house that would bring together city county and some state leaders to be a regular group to bounce things off of and to ask for them to distribute kind of initiatives and then i would have an urban agenda that starts really with
opportunity in our cities um what what businesses closed down uh what people did not get ppp loans uh what workers disproportionately lost their jobs in the latino community for instance and a lot of people in hospitality and frontline jobs really have been decimated and and help um
mayors and cities be the eyes and ears of an american recovery that's what i would wish thanks neha next we have a question from brad austin hey brad i'm eric garcetti uh my name is brad austin and i'm a first year mba student here at stanford uh and also a proud angelino of the past 10 years uh my question to you
is how do you manage your longer term vision for the city while responding to shorter term demand of residents and do you view these two as mutually exclusive or not no they're definitely not i mean certain things you know an earthquake that happens is an earthquake that happens
you have to respond to in real time but think about how you rebuild from an earthquake you better be doing that for the long haul strengthening buildings even more um you know looking at ways to build greener there's always an intersection of the two you never have to cleave off between
but there is a good point there is that the urgency especially as a mayor i have 50 urgent things a day and it took me about a year as mayor to recognize that if i was just a passive leader waiting for my staff to brief me about everything i could spend all day long being briefed i have 38
enterprises that i oversee that they're called city departments but you know the port of la is a business enterprise like i said the busiest port in the americas uh trying to take um something like department of water and power and make that 100 you know renewable zero carbon electricity grid that has short-term
consequences on reliability if you don't do it the right way so you have to be nimble enough i kind of carved up my time in four sections it was yes some briefing time but only a quarter rather than 90 percent of a quarter of the time needed to be kind of proactive management of my people
checking in with them giving them personal tips and policy tips a quarter was my visioning time of like stepping back talking to others reading doing thinking and then a quarter of the time is in relational time keep up those relationships that are absolutely critical because if you
haven't talked to somebody in a few years and then you call say i need help you haven't developed kind of an intimacy that you're going to need in moments of deep deep need so there is the back and forth of the urgent and the long term but i think if you're good in leadership you always tie those two things together
think about the urgency of this year we built um in c40 a covet 19 recovery playbook with these mayors from around the world a committee that i constituted and the mayor of milan was the chair of it but we had an incredible mayor from each continent write this script and it's all about the long-term recovery
don't just build back what we had don't return to normal that isn't good enough we should be rejecting fossil fuels as we build our energy grids back we should have no stimulus it's not a green stimulus we should be investing in public transit above and beyond what was there before
if we want people to actually a surge into the economy so what seems urgent in the now is really about the long term visioning as well and i think good leaders can combine those too thank you thank you our last student question is from jessica barzilla hey jessica hi eric garcetti thank you
so much for coming to speak to us as a fellow alum of harvard westlake i wanted to ask you what lessons you've carried with you from high school and especially as the classroom experience has gotten totally warped and coveted what do you think a high school education should do and should be
i think high school education first and foremost is about your emotional development i know we fixate so much on academic and there's a lot of important academic development but i've learned you know be nice figure out people who are nice to you be around people that that uh celebrate you
um rather than kind of denigrate you um know who you know don't chase the shiny things that seem shiny at the time but really you know my best friends my three best friends are still my best friends from seventh grade we did we did plays together we were all you know aspiring actors two are still actors today
and and we hang out to this very day and i think you know those life lessons are so much more important than the i mean i had extraordinary education i remember many pieces of that education i think the other thing is to return to what i said before is be fearless and try everything um don't think you know
we all have imposter syndrome women experience that especially people of color especially but you know you can pick you know the third generation vanderbilt like air whatever he's doing you know everybody kind of wonders how the hell am i here and that's okay human beings are naturally uh
inquisitive and brave and we're naturally kind of down on ourselves and wondering like whether we can do it or whether we're frauds and we'll be failures the other thing i learned was when you try everything it's okay to fail um you know in politics that's tough lesson because if you're an entrepreneur
you can fail four times and if you're fifth times a hit you are like a legend in politics you do four things great but you mess up once it's done so it's the inverse kind of leadership uh reward but if we can bring more entrepreneurialism and creativity to our lives and i think that's something that
i learned certainly in my education the world will be okay we are a stubborn people human beings we are creative people human beings um there's nothing including climate change um racial justice this pandemic that we can't rise to the day that i stopped believing in that is the day i quit being a leader
here at stanford mayor garcia we like to end with a quick lightning round uh so one word answers or one sentence answers are you ready favorite thing about l.a freedom most misunderstood thing about l.a walking most misunderstood thing about being mayor being all powerful tick tock or
instagram heart tick tock daily practice instagram you have to go away on an extended vacation and name one hollywood celebrity as interim mayor who do you turn to jimmy kimmel you do a great job i agree completely um we know there's a lot of traffic despite the walking comment in la what's mayor
garcetti listening to in his car um a little bit of everything often keith jarrett my favorite i'm a pianist i have a piano in my office and he's he's the greatest and i was very sad to learn he just recently had a stroke and we'll never probably play again you have to be mayor of one city outside
of the us which do you choose barcelona it's where i got engaged and i love that city awesome mayor garcia i know you have a city to run thank you for for joining us hopefully we can host you here in person soon i would love that and thank you so much rex and and thank you to dean levin to all the
questions they were superb i really enjoyed the conversation and i sign off every night when i address people this way but sending everybody strength and love look after your your mental your spiritual well-being in a really tough year and we're gonna get through this [Music]