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Am I okay? Yeah, you're okay.
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You're going to be You're going to be okay on the other side of this.
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I'm not going to be okay.
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Hey, what's going on everybody?
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For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Dakota Johnson.
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She's an actress and producer you know from films like Suspiria, Cha Cha Real Smooth, The Lost Daughter, and many, many more.
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You can also catch her starring in the latest A24 release Materialists, a romantic comedy alongside Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal, releasing in theaters on June 9th.
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Dakota Johnson, welcome to the show. Thanks.
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How are you around spicy food before we get started? I'm not. I'm not.
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I'm not going to be able to survive.
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I don't even really like chicken. Ah, I'm scared. This one's fine, right? Yeah, no big deal. cry yet. I don't think so. Okay. I like that one. Tasty.
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Did you learn anything interesting about the world of high-end matchmaking making this film?
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You know, it must have been really helpful, valuable to have the perspective of a director like Celine Song who had actual real-life experience in the business.
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Wow, you're very good at this.
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Um yes, well, a lot of her stories were pretty wild and people really do speak probably more honestly to someone who's their matchmaker than even probably their therapist.
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The way that Selene approached it was that it is like a business deal and Lucy's like trading in love. It's really interesting.
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Very opposite to how I think about things.
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They're already on the wings.
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Yeah, we got out the middleman for you, Dakota. Thanks.
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Red carpet treatment be able to do it.
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I wouldn't be able to dress my own wing. Mhm. Okay. Swing in it. Natural. That's spicy.
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I'm not going to do well.
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And I'm not going to lie to you either.
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That's the trajectory that we're on going forward. Okay?
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Today Today's going to be my last day.
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Growing up on backlots and sound stages, what stands out as like your earliest core memories of being drawn in by the process of making films?
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I always felt like um I wanted to be a part like when they when they called rolling and everyone got really quiet and I wouldn't see where my mom was or where my dad was and I was like watching the monitors.
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I really wanted to be in the place where they were because it just felt like this magical place.
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I also learned how to drive a golf cart when I was like six. That's a big deal.
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And that was fun to do on the lot on the lot on the stages.
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Oh, you're giving me a look. Third wing regret.
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Yeah, I'm a [ __ ] This is crazy.
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This is a pickled garlic sriracha. Disgusting. Oh my god. Pickled garlic. The [ __ ] Mhm.
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Why are some of them skinny and some of them are chunky?
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You know, it's like that in life, you know? That's life. That's life.
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Some are skinny, some are chunky. how it goes. Wow.
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How did the 1940s German expressionist dance that you trained for in Suspiria?
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How did that compare to like the ballet you'd grown up with?
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Um it didn't didn't compare.
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It also was our the choreographer on that movie um Damien Jalet he counts in threes, so it's one and two and three and not an eight count, which is normal.
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And it also was like very liberating because ballet is so much about defying gravity.
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And the dance that we learned was about like really giving into it and looking quite you know, angular and like uh primal. We're moving on again.
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If you're ready, only if you're ready. Okay, let's just do it. Let's just do it.
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So, up here is a mango serrano hops sauce.
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That's got to count for something. Mhm.
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Seems like you're struggling a bit. I am.
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I'm sharing with I'm sharing in the experience with you and I'm no superhero, you know, I feel it all the same.
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I'm also not a superhero. Tried, failed. Just like this show.
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So, I once heard I definitely don't taste the mango.
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Yeah, it's uh the Serrano hops really kind of dominate. I agree with you. Am I shaking? No, you're good. You're good.
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Composed, graceful, more ballet Yeah, very me.
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than expressions dancing.
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So, I've heard you say that one of the things that compelled you to create your own production company, Tea Time, was this impulse to have more control over the final product.
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How does that shift your perspective as a creative?
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Like, I imagine that there are a lot of stressors that you'd have as a producer that are maybe not even on your radar as an actor. I know. My tongue burns. Um I really prefer it.
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It's hard to be on some jobs where I don't have input, creative input.
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How often do you do this?
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Um, you know, sometimes up to three times a week.
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You know, we kind of [ __ ] off. I'm not joking.
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I'm telling you the truth. Is your stomach okay?
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The numbers keep coming back better.
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I'm here to report a clean bill of health. Really? Yeah.
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I don't know if that eases whatever tension you're feeling coming into the studio today, but But your like gastrointestinal health is solid? I'm really upset.
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I don't want to eat these. And you know what?
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You don't have to, right? I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
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All right, if you're ready to move on, this next one is called spicier sauerkraut and mustard. Okay. Lumpy.
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Some of us are, you know.
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I once did a cameo opposite Maya Rudolph and found that the hardest thing was not hitting my marks or saying my lines, but it was to keep from breaking character from laughing.
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As someone who's done their fair share of comedies, have you ever had the experience of struggling to get through a scene simply because your co-star kept cracking you up? Yes.
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Even in not funny movies, I struggle to get through scenes.
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Um I find actually that even on the more serious movies is when jokes are afoot.
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Oh, that's That's interesting.
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Like maybe if you're doing like an intense psychological drama, Yeah.
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maybe it's like more important Mhm.
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that you're laughing in between. Is that true? Yeah, definitely.
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Also, I mean, for for me at least, I think there's actors probably that need to maintain a certain mindset for the whole time, but I don't do that.
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I'm like a very unserious person.
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Do you ever sit at home and be like, "Ooh, I'd love to have some wings."
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It's kind of like a telltale heart that's always in my life, you know?
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When I go to a restaurant, I don't have to order wings for them to like come out from the kitchen, you know? That's sort of a thing.
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And then do you feel like you have to eat them?
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Yeah, I think I'm like a nice like a nice Midwest guy, so I do feel like I have to at least try them, you know? [ __ ] I know. It sucks.
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It's the It's the cross-eyed bear. Okay.
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All right, so up next, tropical Amarillo. Tropical Amarillo.
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There used to be a hot wings restaurant around the corner from my apartment when I was younger. Did you visit? Yeah. I went there. Fond memories?
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I feel like I'm doing pretty good. You are doing good. Am I?
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But I knew that you would with just the mindset that you in with.
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My mouth is on fire and it's numb.
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But I wouldn't be able to tell.
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Calm and composed from the outside.
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Um I did go to the Hot Wings Cafe.
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That's what it was called, Hot Wings Cafe.
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I like that they spell it out for you.
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Did you ever like Were you a mild kind of order? Uh yeah.
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And also like loads of ranch dressing.
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You should give people ranch dressing. You know what?
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We pay very close attention to the writers that come in, you know?
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Like we have the gluten-free beer today.
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Like if somebody just threw in ranch. Let's try that. Cheers. Cheers. Ooh. Ah. So up next is apricot. Apricot. All right, you hit it.
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It's the emphasis on the apricot. Apricot.
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Do you say apricot or apricot? Apricot. I say apricot, I think. Is that weird?
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No, but who's right, you know? Who's right? Who's right? Maybe let's switch.
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I'll start saying apricot and you go with the apricot. Okay.
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That was a big bite, Sean. Are you okay? Are you hungry?
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They rip how they rip, you know?
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Do you have a diagnosis as to why Hollywood is so risk-averse?
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You know, it's a topic that's discussed ad nauseam in industry media, but I'm curious what you've observed up close and personal.
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I think it's hard when creative decisions are made by a committee. Mhm.
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And it's hard when creative decisions are made by people who don't even really watch movies or like know anything about them.
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And that tends to be what's occurring a lot.
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And I think also when something does well um they like studios want to keep that going, so they remake the same things and then but humans don't want that.
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They want fresh, they want to feel new things, experience new things, see new things. So, I don't know.
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I guess it's all just a bit of a mess right now, isn't it?
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Chipotle puree, orange juice. What's going on? Oh, [ __ ] [ __ ] No. Mhm. Mhm. No. I know. No, Sean. No. I know. No. I know. Mhm. The [ __ ] is that?
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I don't taste orange juice. I don't like it. I know. I understand.
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That's the problem is it's probably one of the spiciest things you've ever eaten.
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And then on top of that, the taste of it there's no redeeming culinary qualities. Yeah. I can't. Oh my god.
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And then be careful around your eyes.
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Just don't touch your eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get it. Am I okay? Yeah, you're okay. Am I red?
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You're going to be okay on the other side of this. going to be okay. You're going to be okay. I don't want anything. I need something. Yeah. Am I drooling? No, you look great. You're doing great. Don't lie to me. I'm not lying to you. You're doing great. I don't like it. No, I understand. You don't. You don't understand.
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Do you want some ice cream? Ice cream's helpful. Mhm.
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Yeah, ice cream coming in. I don't like this. be careful. Careful with the ice.
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[ __ ] I have to go to the hospital. No. Is this real ice cream? Yeah.
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The stunts are over, all right?
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The gags are over, the pranks are over, I promise.
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What are the furthest lengths you've gone to in order to get your hands on a piece of vintage furniture?
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You know, you do hunt like the throwback fixtures.
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I bought something in Italy once that took like 6 months to get to America. What was that piece?
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It was like a dumb [ __ ] credenza. Worth the wait? Do you still have it? I have it, yeah. Not worth the wait. I'm going to vomit.
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I don't like this at all, Sean. I'm sorry. it. I get it. I won't be back.
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And I don't take that personal.
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I don't take that personal. do it multiple times? No.
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Some people have come back. [ __ ] off. Really? Yeah. Who? Gordon Ramsay came back. Will Ferrell came back.
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I was once on a talk show with Gordon Ramsay. I was on James Corden.
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We were sitting on the couch together and I realized afterwards that if they got married, his name would be Gordon Corden.
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And I was so annoyed that I didn't think of that on the show.
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Well, I'm happy that we could offer the platform for you to get it off now, you know? Thank you. This was worth it.
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I told James that joke and he was like, "You're an idiot." Mhm. Oh. It's a tiniest bite. Look. Yeah. It counts. Huh. Right? But think about that. You just shook that off. The last one.
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It doesn't It's not I don't like the taste.
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If you eat and one of the ones on the other side, does it like mitigate the spice or it adds more spice?
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You know, that's interesting.
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I've done this show for a long time and I think you're the first person to pose that.
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You know, so now I'm thinking it through in real time.
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Yeah, like what if you eat something spicy?
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If you eat something less spicy, is that kind of like a ginger palate cleanser Right.
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in the world of a spicy wing gauntlet? Yeah.
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I'll lab rat this for you. Okay. That was a big bite. That's all I know. Which one did you pick? The first one? the very first one. Does it feel better? You know what? That's not nothing. Really? Yeah. Wow. I'm a genius.
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Is there a practical skill that you've learned through preparing for a role that's been most transferable or valuable in your everyday life?
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Stunt driving's fun, definitely.
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And hard to kind of let go of that.
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Yeah, like if you're preparing for like a role in Need for Speed, like does that make you like a better parallel parker on the other side of it? Oh my god. Mhm.
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I can do like a high-speed 180.
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I'm really good at parallel parking, too. I'm like a one-and-done. Woah. Yeah.
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And look at you running this gauntlet over here.
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Are you going to put more sauce on your wing? Do I have to do that?
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Is that part of the game?
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I don't want to be a little [ __ ] I don't want I don't want to. You don't have to. I'm going to. Okay. Little tiny dab. Okay. There we go. Okay.
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And with that, Dakota Johnson, you've conquered the wings of death in just one more question before we get you out of here.
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I've heard you talk about being nostalgic for an era of movies that inspired hope.
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Maybe this is an ironic time to ask, but what do you see as the enduring appeal of a happy ending in a film?
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Because I think people want that for themselves ultimately.
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It's happiness, a happy ending. And you know what? Not the sexual kind.
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But look at you today putting a bow on this episode here.
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I would describe this as a happy ending before we roll the credits and now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you, Dakota Johnson.
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This camera, this camera, this camera, let the people know what you have going on in your life. What do you mean?
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Like if you have a movie coming out or something. Oh.
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But we Materialist is coming out June 13th. They don't like it. Thank you for having me.
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Thanks for Thanks for ruining my life. You did so good. You did so good. You did so good.
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Fans are really like this and you'll be happy you did it on the other side, all right? I will. I'm so happy I did it. Woo!
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Godspeed and be careful around the eyes.