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Hey, what's going on everybody?
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From First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Barry Keoghan. How are we?
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He's an Academy Award nominated actor you know from a string of acclaimed performances in films like Saltburn, The Banshees of Inisherin, The Killing of a Sacred Deer and many more.
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His latest project though is the long anticipated World War drama mini-series Masters of the Air set to stream on Apple TV Plus January 26th.
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Barry Keoghan, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
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What's going through your head, your mindset as you prepare to take on the wings and hot sauce?
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like you know what I mean? It's like ooh.
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And there's this one that this Smoky Jay.
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Yeah, Smoky Jay is speaking to me.
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And that As I said, I've tried the bomb. Mhm.
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I was at a friend's house and I went straight to it.
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And that wasn't pleasant the next day.
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But um Yeah, it was um Yeah, I mean I'll get there I think.
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Are you ready to get started? Let's do it. Let's get in. Okay. I'm in for it. Wow. Do we start at the top? Or that's the portion? It's not that hot. Not that hot.
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So during the filming of Saving Private Ryan, I understand that Steven Spielberg purposely withheld Matt Damon from military training so as to create a natural resentment between the rest of the cast and him.
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I'm curious, was there anything unique that went into creating an atmosphere of trust or camaraderie amongst the actors playing fighter pilots in Masters of the Air?
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I remember um showing up and uh you know, all the lads seen me. I came in late.
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I was actually eating a Snickers.
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It was like so cool-looking.
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And I was like uh looking at all of them doing their their marches and that.
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And they were all giving me this side eye.
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They're like, "Who's that?"
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I was like, "Hey lads, see you Monday."
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But um you know, you're in all this gear and getting out of the cockpits is frustrating.
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You end up just staying there and just spending a lot of time there.
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And it was intense and and compact as it looks.
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How do we feel after wing one? Oh yeah, that's easy. It's a bit too soon. Not my top. No, not yet.
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I'll give the people, you know, I won't give them that yet. Right, right.
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Keep them Keep them wanting like what's in Keep them Right, exactly.
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you what's in there, you know. Anyways. It's on there already. It's right in. Yeah, yeah. There's nowhere to hide.
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I I wanted to kind of like do that little Well, I'm not going to stop you. I'm not going to do it.
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But that Do you know what I mean?
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Just the idea of doing it.
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And the boy has to be like, uh you know, you look at everyone and it's so like easy for them. I'm like sloppy.
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What would you say most distinguishes an Irish film crew from an American one when you're making a film?
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We don't finish our sentences. Sorry about that. That's all right. Let her fly.
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You're a busy man and hide them It's not It's just the service saying welcome to the states. What a letdown. What a [ __ ] letdown. Welcome to the states. Thanks.
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The Irish crew are quite They're brilliant.
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Everyone knows each other.
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Everyone's a cousin of one another. Weirdly related.
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But uh it's quite an intimate and you know, and I'm filming in Ireland with Martin McDonagh.
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It was uh It was quite a moment.
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It was his first movie in Ireland as well. Yeah.
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Piece of Mhm, piece of history.
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I mean, Ireland doesn't look like that everywhere. You know what I mean?
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That's a special part of Ireland.
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You know, that looked fake.
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I was even looking around going, "Where the heck is the leprechauns?"
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I'm going to eat one now.
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All right, Barry, you ready to move on here to wing number three?
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You're doing great, by the way. What if I just skip one? You won't know about it. Yeah, I'll know. I'm on you.
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You probably know from my face.
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Yeah, listen, I I I pick up everything over here. it. I mhm mhm.
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Yeah, little bit of a kick on this one.
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I was going to say something cocky there, and then I was like The wings will humble you.
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The wings will humble you, you know. Yeah, definitely. What were we saying?
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Oh, you Well, you know what? saying?
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There's a lot of lore surrounding the size and scale.
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We have lots of lifelines.
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Oh, no, but he touched his milk. Someone said that to me.
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So, there's a lot of lore surrounding the size and scale of the Dunkirk set, you know, from over 50 boats in the water to landing a Spitfire on the beach to the use of over 1,000 extras. Mhm.
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Is there a piece of Christopher Nolan's cinematic wizardry that blew your mind the most seeing the way that he makes a movie up close in action?
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I mean, yeah, that was like an air show, that movie.
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I As a young actor, I always just brilliant to step onto, and you would just constantly looking up and I remember there was one scene where you know, it takes an hour or a half an hour to reset the planes.
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And we're filming on on IMAX, and everything is like, "All right, let's go."
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Um And the plane is coming towards us.
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I like didn't hear action.
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So, when the plane came towards, I went, "Oh, fuck."
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And then turned around, and Chris is there filming.
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He's like, "We're filming."
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I was like, "Oh, [ __ ] sorry."
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And it's going to take an hour to reset.
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Anyways, um you know, I'm walking with Cillian as well, and I died of an elbow, and a a war movie, it's quite over there with Yorgos.
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Went out on your shield there in the bottom of the boat, you know? Jingle bells, boom. Blind, dead, can't see.
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Yorgos Lanthimos, he has such a distinctive filmmaking style and aesthetic.
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What stands out when you think about the unique tactics he uses to elevate a scene?
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You got really good questions, you know that?
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I don't know what this place or like whatever, but your questions are really good.
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Um he doesn't want people to act, you know?
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I remember his notes to me were like, "Stop acting."
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I was like, "I'm an actor, you know?"
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So, it's like all of it kind of a rhythm, you know?
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He watches behavior, and he watches it's all mechanical and stuff like that.
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Um but I had a great time working with Yorgos. I seen him recently. Gave me a big hug.
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Um but yeah, he's brilliant, man.
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He's He's like the modern Stanley Kubrick, I think.
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So, can I just ask, how do you know which part I'm nibbling?
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They're tossed in a bowl, so they have full coverage. Okay.
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So, Barry, it doesn't matter where you nibble.
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All right, there's no cheating on this, then. You're catching sauce. There's an egg. Um okay. Number four? Mhm.
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About to say something cocky.
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I was like, "Number one." We going backwards? I saw that coming. Don't rub my eyes.
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I always rub my eyes and No, I know, but I'm going to be kind of on that, do not do that, because you know Maybe I like want to get into it, method [ __ ] You know what?
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I've noticed that from actors sometimes, you know, like you'll see a different mindset right across the genres.
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Like an athlete, you'll almost see them have like a one more rep, one more rep kind of mindset.
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I'm not really looking at the other one.
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I'm like, I don't come across as an actor.
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I'm going to take my top off. Model, right? Slash legend.
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But you are, because I've heard you I've heard you say you know that you feel like acting can be dangerous, you know, when you're pushing the limits of a character. Honestly, though. Right? There you go. I love it. I love it. distracted? Let's get it on. I'm flustered.
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I don't know how I'm going to get this question out.
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Um What I What were you saying?
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Is there a role or film where you felt particularly close to the edge of something that felt unsafe?
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Well, I mean, I shagged the grave in Saltburn, right?
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I can't get any That's his Can't get closer to the edge than that.
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to deaths or [ __ ] mud diseases in your I should get that checked.
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But, uh Um Saltburn really pushed it.
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Well, every role pushes it and I like to be pushed.
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I don't want to something to be comfy.
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I want to really artistically go there.
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Um and there's moments on on sets and movies where you lose sight of camera and you kind of get this It's only for 2 seconds or so, but it's like this kind of nauseous yeah feeling and you're like you just kind of you're so present.
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Um And it's what we chase, I I feel. We, as actors, chase.
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Um you know, every time we go on set.
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This one is a different color. All right, let's do it. cheesy. Uh What did you say? Cheesy? cheesy, yeah. I took a big bit there. You did. Wow.
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And this is a little bit of a step up here. Mhm. Oh, yeah.
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It's creeping down the throat. Mhm.
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This one kind of goes back a little.
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Bring me back to my past. That's nice.
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Austin told me about one of these.
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He said there's a Yeah, did he give you any tips coming in here?
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Yeah, he said that like you're wet like the whole way. I don't feel that.
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I feel you're over there. You're not with me.
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I don't know whether you should be right here.
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You're having a little chat.
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But, uh No, he said this one there that kind of you feel it.
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Yeah, but I think you were saying when you walked in here that you've already tried this one.
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to the bottom last night. the one. That's the one.
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I couldn't talk for an hour or so, so I know how that goes.
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Is it true that you once tried to reenact the 50 egg scene in Cool Hand Luke?
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And if so, how did that go? Not good.
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And I don't think the eggs were cooked, so I'm going to blame it on that.
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And I was also very drunk.
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I think I got the eight eggs.
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And and I think Paul Newman did eat 50 eggs, by the way.
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I was still trying to while I was getting sick.
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That's the thing, you know what I mean? Didn't work out.
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Here at the First We Feast, we love to unpack iconic food and film scenes.
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Is there any sort of backstory? Yeah, yeah, yeah. he was going to that. Spaghetti you see.
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In The Killing of a Sacred Deer, any sort of backstory?
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can't eat spaghetti when I'm out?
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People are like, "Look at that freak.
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He's going to torment your family."
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I mean, you're sitting there in front of Nicole Kidman as well, you know, in your boxers. It's quite intimidating.
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And it's like you're eating cold pasta.
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And I was like, "All right, what will I do to freak freak her out?"
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So I put the spaghetti in my mouth and take it back out.
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Um I remember doing that.
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She looked at me like, you know what I mean?
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But then it worked, I think. This is great. Bourbon.
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I feel like I'm going to make it to the end. I know you are. I know you are. It's not that bad. Right. Do you know what I mean? I'm with you, Barry. I'm with you, Barry.
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I'm I'm I'm going to be sick, by the way.
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So, you know what I mean?
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I wouldn't be able to get through this so easy, but I'm going to be sick today. I'm jet-lagged.
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Jet-lagged doesn't help with spice, either.
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No, not easy to hop off the and then roll right into Hollywood, you know? I get it. I get it.
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Have you ever had a moment in your career where you thought you gave everything to a scene, right?
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Just speaking truth to film, and then had that scene cut from the final edit?
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Is that painful for you as an actor or just the cost of doing business? Do you know what?
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I'm going to sound cocky, but they don't really cut my scenes.
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Like, they keep them in there and they wish that they had more.
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Um But uh there was a scene a bunch is that didn't need to be there.
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And it's quite bleak the scene.
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You know, I'm coming out of the bedroom and me and my father has just molested me and it's quite out there. Um they cut that scene.
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Um but I don't think we needed to see it anyways.
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And again, you don't question that when you're working with Martin McDonagh or anything.
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You just kind of you go and you you you let him take take the lead.
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Um but yeah, if it justifies in it, I I understand people have to cut scenes and move like if it kind of takes you away from the story and that, you know, you can't really take it personal.
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But we do take it personal.
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We take it Well, like, am I not that good? Do you know what I mean? Forbidden fruit. Is it fruity? I should just taste it.
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Only one way to find out.
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How are you wearing a jacket and that?
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Like, that's Maybe I'll lose it, too, you know.
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Yeah, we should both like I'm saving it. Yeah. Jersey swap this joint? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's real, you know.
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And that's the thing about the forbidden fruit.
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When you first try it, it has like a freshness to it, right?
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Almost like you're taking a bite out of an apple.
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out and I'm breathing fire.
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And that's what happens, yeah, as we go here. As we go.
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special effects and like fire fire.
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Wait till you see amazing.
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Wait till you see what Colin does with next.
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Wait till you see what Colin does with that one, all right, Bear? Colin's getting busy.
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That's actually creeping in now.
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He kept going with the milk and I'm like, "Nope, don't do it."
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All right, then it's a standoff. Then I won't eat it. You never do.
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You just do it like to help the other people. Oh, look at you.
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I see you've seen some episodes. Yeah, definitely. I'm observing.
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That's the actor's eye, too. Always.
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So, one of the great pieces of Kobe Bryant lore is that he used to study cheetahs and great white sharks in order to become a better basketball player.
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How, if at all, would you say studying the physicality and body language of animals watching you in your documentaries made you by the way.
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How do you think that made you a better actor?
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Well, I feel like animals can convey so much without actually vocalizing because they can't.
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Um you know, they can't um I don't I mean the parrot. I had a parrot once. God, that parrot.
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Um but animals do so much with their body language.
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I mean, I know my dog says so much to me without saying anything. I shout out to Koda.
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I feel, you know, you look at certain actors and it's animalistic in how they move and you know, there's certain performances that uh the directors on the back and I think the shoulders say a lot as well.
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Um you know, I always find when my shoulders are less tense and dropped, that's when I'm more on the on the case of being vulnerable and open and without kind of what that's kicking in. Yeah, yeah. Uh forbidden fruit. Hate you.
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Is there an animal, because of its uh freedom of movement or maybe its shared body language, that you think is like nature's greatest acting coach? A wolf. I brought the wolf.
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What is Somebody gave that to me.
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It's like a little crystal, a little stone.
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I should have brought him in at the start. Maybe we can edit that.
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Put a real wolf here and use a pen there.
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You just challenged our editor to various things.
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Breathing fire with devil horns. Been there. Done that. Not that bad.
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We can skip it if you want. A bomb. What kind of milk is it? Oh, not wow. Wow, I remember this.
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Yeah, all coming back to you. It's bringing you back. Yeah. Yeah.
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We can just really rush through them. I get it. I get it. I'll know what? It's making me like ah. Like a little upright. Yeah, yeah.
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I could stand for the rest of this. Same with me. Go ahead. Look like I'm standing. I'm so small. Stress test the editors.
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Stress test the camera guys. I say go for it, Barry. Oh, man.
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Anyways, what were you going to say?
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Oh, I was going to say, you know, I know that boxing it goes far beyond a hobby for you, right? Next question.
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Training for a decade with plans to compete in the Celtic Cup before a hand injury derailed that. you know your stuff. Honestly, I'm amazed.
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What's one self-defense tip that you'd give to someone with zero fight experience? Uh silence. Shut your mouth.
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Yeah, don't don't get in any problems.
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it's uh silence and walk away is the bigger bigger man and uh yeah. I know. I know.
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Boxing films, they're hallowed ground for actors.
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I'm curious from Rocky to Raging Bull they make such a big deal?
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to The Fighter, what would you say is the greatest boxing movie of all time? Raging Bull.
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Because it shows his kind of attitude outside the ring and again, you know, boxing is the background.
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We we we know all of that.
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And it looks amazing, by the way, but it's how one carries themselves.
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A boxer has a certain way of carrying themselves.
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Okay, I need to drink this. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
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I'm going to join you at the party over here. Nice.
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What would you say distinguishes an Irish fighter?
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And then do you have a theory as to why, you know, Ireland, with a population of around 5 million, how it's produced so many world champion boxers?
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I mean, it's it's the culture, isn't it?
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And it's it's the fighting spirit and the troubles that we went through and it's kind of um Christine, God, this is hot. Woah. Is that the publicist? Yeah. Help.
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I've heard lots of other publicists get cursed out Tell me.
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in my years doing this show. Um it's the culture.
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You know, and so you look at the wrestler, you look at how he carries himself.
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Got our own claw, you look at the lads carrying themselves.
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It's how they it's the swag, it's all of that, isn't it?
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I answered a different question there because I just got lost.
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Um you were on about Ireland. That's where I'm from. No, it is.
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And And you know, you did answer the question.
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You said it was the culture of Ireland.
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You know, that's how you create so many champion fighters.
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And I see a champion fighter in front of me right now taking on these weights. Don't rub your eyes. Careful around the eyes. Careful around the eyes. Austin's nose run.
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I seen that and he was like So Anyways, am I ready for the next one? Yes, I am. Sean.
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I was so excited coming in here.
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Sometimes people are excited to meet me and then never want to see me again. You know what I mean?
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No, we should meet again, just not going near this. Yeah. No, I agree.
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We can have a proper little chat. I'm down. I'm down.
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Since I put this on, it's brought me bad luck. Back in there. Come wolf.
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All right, so here we have the Mata sound on the chair in the ninth spot.
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And here's the thing, nothing is as bad as the last one. Oh, really?
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Then why is he sitting there and he's not sitting here?
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Cuz like a film, we like a story arc, you know what I mean?
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You got to land that thing. down. I like that. Thank you. Okay.
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Not every film is like that, by the way. I know.
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Some ends really bad and it's not a happy ending. They're my favorite.
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Now, nothing fun about the sauce that you just ate. But not like the bomb.
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My nose is coming into the play now.
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It's like spices are going up there. Mhm.
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Why did you get banned from Cineworld theater on Parnell Street? Ooh.
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As a youth, why did you get banned?
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For being a brat, basically.
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Um, running in and trying to watch movies, honestly. You know what I mean?
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Trying to stop a kid from watching movies, like You don't know.
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Could be a future Oscar nominee there. Oh, yeah. Just saying.
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And you took him away from films.
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But then I had a premiere there.
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In 2021 for The Eternals.
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That must have been such a full circle moment to return to the theater that booted you.
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But yeah, I was young and trying to get in and, you know, the cinema was such a romantic place to me. And I was only 14.
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I don't know what I'm saying. Oh, but smile. This is the last one. This is the last one. I've got to open it.
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You didn't even open it for us, lads.
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They really need to have a word.
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And then just be careful cuz it can kind of avalanche. Yeah? Woah.
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I'm going to bite the other side. Okay. Cheers. what?
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You've been [ __ ] great. Oh.
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I know what Austin's saying now. Honestly.
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All good things, by the way. Sorry.
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I didn't Yeah, I was curious. I left it a little.
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I know what you're saying. a little cryptic, yeah. That's how we roll. Anyways.
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I have to, just for like, you know what I mean?
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No one No one has ever done it. Good on you. I'm along for the ride. Right with you.
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And here's the good news, Barry. The hard work's over. Oh, thank you. The pain is behind us.
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And just one more question to close things out.
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Now, I want to take it to a quote from an interview that you recently did with Backstage commenting on how you learned to become an actor more through experimentation.
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Look at it, I'm just spitting all over the place.
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So, I'm like So, experimentation than any sort of formal acting training saying, "You look at non-actors and you see their first movie or their second movies and they're incredible.
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Then you go to that third or fourth movie and they've lost it.
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They realize, 'Oh, I'm an actor. I should be an actor.'"
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I'm curious, what do you see as the power of naivete for an actor?
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And then what are the consequences of losing it?
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It's like, you know, for me it was um getting that title of I'm an actor.
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And you know, it's a it there's a sudden pressure.
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And I got to know how to, you know, uh you know, speak and um project and sit up straight and I'm not not not saying I'm against it, but I'm going to keep that authenticity and if you slouch, you slouch, you know what I mean?
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Keep that mumbling, keep all of that.
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Don't kind of train yourself into what everyone else is doing because you don't stand out there and then you know what I mean?
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They want to see what they what they what they can't put a finger on.
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And I always kind of, you know, play with the camera and you know, play hard to get.
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That's another kind of thing I've always been told.
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Um treat it like a love interest and play hard to get, really.
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And let the camera follow you.
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So, that's why I've been over here for the whole lot, you know what I mean?
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Trying to get the Well, Barry taking on the wings of death living to tell the tale hot.
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And now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.
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This camera, this camera, let the people know what you have going on in your life.
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So um hi I'm Barry Keoghan and this is Hot Ones.
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Um no this has been great and oh my god I'll list my whole filmography.
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Yeah if you have something coming out or what.
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What do I have coming up? Nothing right now. Honestly.
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I'm taking time to chill and uh you know um kind of focusing on on my well-being. And get back boxing. Is that that?
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Yeah haven't lost a step. Haven't lost a step.
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Which camera am I looking at because I look so wrong over here. Here this is the hyper. There it is. Thank you. Thanks. What do you think? That was amazing. That was amazing.
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I really want to rub my eyes but I didn't Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
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Sean thank you so much man.
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Did you have a good time? freaking brilliant man.
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I was nervous at the start but honestly thank you everyone.
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