it was mother's day 2014 my mom collapsed on the floor we didn't know what was wrong with her my sister was like i don't know what's wrong with her we got my mom to the hospital and the next day they were like she's terminal cancer she's gonna die in like a couple days and we were like what [Music] hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one health podcast in the world thanks to each and every single
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one of you that come back every week to listen learn and grow i am so grateful to all of you that lend us your ears and your eyes every single week because you're making this possible our on purpose community is amazing and community is something at the heart of what we're going to be speaking about today now today's guest is someone that i've been connecting with messaging with
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for maybe the last three years now and we've been dying to be sitting in the same room so we can actually have this conversation i can't tell you how excited i am and i've been talking to her for literally just a few moments and i'm already excited for you i'm talking about none other than actress and entrepreneur alexis wren alexis thanks for being here thank you so much that
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was so cool hearing that and then being here like sitting in this chair with you and listening to that introduction i'm so honored to be here actually i've been thinking about it this whole week like i've looked literally from like 18 up until now i've looked up to you and the people that you've attracted into your life and then to be one of those people you've attracted my heart's like
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thank you that is so sweet honestly because when i found out that you you were going to come on the podcast and that we connected and i wanted you to come on the fact that you wanted to come on to me it was amazing honestly because we we used to live in the same building yes and we bump into each other in the gym all the time and you used to bump into my wife and i'd just be like hi i love you
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and you just remembered my wife in the elevator all the time like nice sweater yeah and you just you know i've also been following your journey and you probably didn't even know that no i had no idea and i've been following you jenny and i've been so honestly and i mean this from the bottom of my heart been so blown away by your activism and advocacy for mental health awareness thank you your work for
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women's empowerment uh the beautiful community that you just launched last year called we are warriors which we're going to talk about today that your work is so beyond what many know and i'm so glad that i get to sit down to help you share that story because i really think that and and i felt it only today you just have this amazing energy that surrounds you wherever you go and so i
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want you to know that thank you so much i feel like i um one of the things i do is i like spread myself like very thin because i feel like i'm sure a lot of people can relate to this there's like so many different lives i want to live that i just dabble and then i don't give like this year i've been like let's just focus on one thing at a time like that's kind of like what my team is saying and
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so i'm like i'm i'm focusing on one thing at a time but it's there's a like as you know as if you've been following my journey i've have just so many different passions and loves and i also like like there's just so much to fix here like to i'm just i'm like oh my god like the second i was like looked around because you know how like you're kind of in your head and then at one point
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you're just like oh like you're like early 20s like whoa i was like if you don't if you don't feel you have a purpose i can point out five like right like there is so much that like just needs service and help and um i when i first i almost felt paralyzed when i like first saw how many well one like on the mental health aspect just like our relationship with our parents and like how that stems and how we just
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continue this weird cycle and how can i help break these cycles so we can create like new beliefs new patterns and help heal especially for females in general because we've been suppressed but just in all aspects of what are healthy relationships what is normal because the normal we've been living is not healthy so what is the new normal right so it's just like going into those subjects and then of course
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like i'm like earth oh no i didn't even know i'm so sorry and like going into like plastic the past plastic pandemic and like and then learning the like how the thing that has blessed me so much social media has actually been hurting so many people and that of the girls that have been following me and it like broke my heart just like there's just so many things that broke
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my heart and those it almost like when my heart broke and i was like there's a path and then i just would keep like put going through those things and then i you know i grew up as a model and that was like all i knew and so my self-worth was very much on like well i'm pretty and that's that's my offering like i'm pretty and so i felt very um scared because i was like i want to
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just like reach my hand out out of this box that i've been in um and there's a lot of back you know people being like why does she have anything to say about any of these topics but i was like can we all just talk about them then so like it's okay because there's just a lot um and then that's i i would just it was almost like i would just like step kind of like a mermaid coming out to like you
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know just like stepping like i can turn into i can speak on different things and so just finding my way through the puzzle my god sister always says this and i believe it she says there's no problem only puzzle pieces and like just trying to figure out what goes where that's been like a series of last couple of years been very interesting i love that we're going to talk about each and
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every one of those because you've just shared so much with us and and i want to thank you for just your vulnerability across the whole time like you've always never been scared of just diving into what your heart cares about and i think that's beautiful to see but let's start with what was alexis's first passion ever when was the first time you felt that passion that interest that curiosity about something
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back to when you were tiny like whatever you want to go to yeah i mean so i was homeschooled my entire life i've never set foot in a classroom and so that really gave me the opportunity to just like go deep into like my own creativity um and you know it was the three three girls all being homeschooled there's a lot to handle my mom are you the eldest of the youngest i'm the middle child and
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your parents decided to do this with three my mom my dad was like okay my mom was like i'm doing this um she was very um i feel like the term woke is very much overused but she back then like i mean she homeschooled herself through college it was very very different back and then it was just not um accepted i spent so much time being in front of the camera like creating music videos like it was all i
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wanted to do and because i didn't i wasn't around the only people i was around were the people that accepted me i just went full force into whatever creative thing i was doing and it was really interesting because my mom she was obsessed with being like what are you interested and then we'll learn subjects based off of that subject so for instance i fell in love with ballet that was my first i
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would say that was my first passion and she was like hey we're gonna learn history through ballet and so there's just this like um desire to learn that i was just super accustomed to and so when i would talk to my friends being like oh you're going to school what are you learning and they just like roll their eyes and like hate it and i didn't understand that because i was like
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that's what we're here to do is learn like and it's fun it's like so exciting so i was very blessed to have that kind of an upbringing um your mom's genius my mom that's amazing the longer the more in my adult life i i'm getting i'm just like my mom was so aware like it's cr and i i'm like living we'll get to that part but like i'm i'm living for her now as well because everything that all of her beliefs i'm
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fulfilling and like hopefully just like carrying it on carrying her legacy but with ballet it was it was a love at first you know because you're a little girl you're like i'm gonna dance on the cardboard box and like i would like perform little things for my mom is that the ballerina voice yeah i don't know what voice that is you're gonna hear that voice brilliant yeah i've been hearing it
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i love it i don't know where it comes from but um and so my mom was like okay you want to do this you want to do ballet so i studied for 15 years i'm still studying now so i would say now 24 years now i've been studying but like it was i stopped around 16 because um i mean first of all just shout out to ballet because that where if anyone is who is a dancer is watching this like
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you you guys know the type of work ethic that you're taught we also know the trauma you're given so um it's a it's almost like a wand and then a sword at the same like edges because my work ethic is out of this world all i know is how to put 100 of myself in and that's what ballet taught me had this really strict russian teacher yuri shawn yuri it was just i was constantly like please i just wanted to please like
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please please please and so i got into this deep people-pleasing habit um and that stem from my first passion which was very interesting because it bled into everything else that i fell in love with um and then it almost like and this is so interesting and i was just reflecting on this with a friend last week it reversed all of the work that i'd done in my homeschooling years to create my own
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identity and almost because it's like if you're constantly like do you like what i did i can do it different let me know like i can be better for you um you start to lose your identity and so that happened so deeply to the point in ballet um that i i still remember the first moment where i was in ballet class and it was just i was at a breaking point um because one i think around the age of 16
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15 you can kind of tell whether or not you'll be accepted into like a company or something by just the way your body is made and my hips were never that flexible and i would always like just hurt myself to try and get myself there and it just never worked so one time in class my teacher was just like just grabbed my leg and threw it to the back and was like no and like yelled at me so hard in my like something
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he like she like threw i i was on the bar and he just took my leg and threw it to the back and he was like no like no alexi no and it just broke my heart because i was just like i can't do this anymore i love ballet so much but i can't i can't this is like ruining me and so it was very interesting because right at that moment where i was like i don't think that ballet is for me on the
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level that i wanted modeling i was scouted like literally like within a year and a half before i quit ballet and then that was a new path that i was like i can do this like i can smile and like you know like i can this is really fun and i remember um i got signed first time first paycheck i was i for 14 14. and it was like 15 was around the time i quit ballet yeah i was like 15. and then
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my agency was like so do you want to go live in tokyo for six months to a year by yourself i was like sure like my mom was like well i raised you so sure you know like if i can't trust you then i don't trust myself and just like gives you an idea how amazing of a mother who she was so it was like it almost went i just to to bring this all back around my passions i grew up so
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quickly from all of my it was just like you're an adult world you're an adult world you're living on your own you're an adult so by the time i was 16 i was i already felt like i was an adult yeah an adult and it felt amazing i was like mom everything's amazing like i'm doing i'm doing all the things that you want like here's a new dishwasher like i got you like whatever and so it i felt on top of
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the world around 16 i was like finally got my like it just was working out so beautifully i was working every day and i was like and not to go through my whole life story but this is kind of an important place um story moment um we're here for it when i think it was mother's day 2014 my mom claps on the floor and i was like barry can i didn't we didn't know what was wrong with her i mean my sister was
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like i don't know what's wrong with her we got my mom to the hospital and the next day they were like she's terminal cancer she's gonna die in like a couple days and we were like what and like i think anyone knows like especially females with their mothers like she was my first reflection so like i i didn't understand i mean you you don't understand death at the that age you're
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just like i'm too close to beginning of life to understand death and that was crazy so i think that almost because she she ended up passing away well she refused all cancer treatment she's holistic she was a holistic health nutritionist so she like refused everything everyone was like you're not going through chemo and she was like that's gonna kill everything in me like no which i i love her for that she was just
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so powerful and she was so stuck on her beliefs and i mean they said she was only gonna live two weeks she ended up living another like six to eight months wow so that's like i i was like i gotta give it to you mom like that that's amazing um and so i kind of i got to learn how to live life without her while she was still there almost because she was like in bed um but i didn't i didn't quite
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understand how much i would lose myself from losing her and that was like i think it was like on top of the the people-pleasing aspect in each of my each steps in my career and then losing that reflection of just everything i wanted to be i almost had to like start again it was weird i i still remember like being in my um car parking lot just like having this whole breakdown being like i
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have no idea who i am anymore like this is crazy um and so yeah i just like went on a rant tangent but that was like i think a defining moment in like one who i wanted to be to uh how i wanted to serve and then three um how like how could i how do i break the boxes that people put me in because my mom was so good at breaking boxes she was like oh you think college is the
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only way nope like oh you think like western medicine's the only way nope like and so it was just that inspired me to like go down all of the paths that i'm currently now creating so it was like crazy sorry that was a really long tangent no it wasn't a tool thank you so much for sharing that like thank you for thank you for sharing that honestly what's coming out of my mouth i don't know
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because at 14 you know you're obviously not making sense of it in that way at 14 it's it is the most heartbreaking thing that can happen to anyone at any age but to have it at such a young age and defining age and then losing yourself where do you think that took you at that time today it's obviously taking you to some beautiful wonderful things which we'll get on to but at that time you've mentioned the
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people-pleasing mentality a few times it comes from trying to impress your ballet teacher where does that then take you and how does that affect your modeling because that's the next stage yeah i think with the people-pleasing thing it's almost like turning it around and being like now how can i harness this for myself right because i know how hard i work now can i not work for that can i
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work for me so like that was like the switch um and i've always found i was literally talking about this last night but i i kind of i believe and i hope i can state this correctly but how low you go is how high you'll go and i keep seeing that in life like if i'm whenever like i hit like a low like just patch i'm just like oh do you own me like what are you gonna do to like make this up like let's go and then of course
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it like it'll launch me into a next pad so at the time i didn't realize that but i do think like the reas like going through the passing of my mom and everything was i literally just look it's her wedding ring but um the it was the reason i got launched into such like a fast like blas like completely blessed life was because he was like okay just wait i got i got you like i got you
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and now i can almost like with everything with everything i've done and like especially with weird warriors like that community was the manifestation like that's something my mom would have created right because when i went on because it was modeling and then social media started coming up and i just remember photos of me when i was very very young 15 going viral on the internet i didn't
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understand it and i was working full full-time as a model i didn't really understand what was going on tell us about that experience yeah that was that was great i mean i was i was just so happy i was just so i was like i'm working e-com nine hours a day back like i was just like i was living under like my dream because i was financially independent i could help my mom out like everything was going
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amazing and then on top of it i was getting this like this this attention that i never thought i would get and so there was it was i think 2013 or 14 and then 2015 hit and and that was interesting because i had to i went through my mom passing like publicly so that was like i think the first understanding that the second you share your vulnerabilities it's almost like it's setting you free that's why i'm so
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i always whenever i go on interviews i'm just like can i think new thoughts here because i would like that i love thinking new thoughts yeah i don't i don't like repeating you know i hate preparation it like scares me i'm just like no it's gonna ruin whatever's meant to happen i so agree i i say that all the time and i hope i hope i help you do that today but that's the same
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for me if i'm ever being interviewed i'm like i want to say stuff that i've never said before exactly like that's what excites me it's like can this be so you're in a room with a friend and you're just like i just thought of something yeah what if like that's i love that yeah well please go there yeah go on any tangent you want to go let's see what will come out um but yeah so it was the modeling and then
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social media came along um instagram started blowing up i started traveling with an ex-boyfriend of mine we were super super young the reason we connected actually was his mom passed away from cancer as well so we had this really deep connection i would call it a trauma bond now but yeah it was um very deep and so we started traveling and and picking up this attention and so
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one of the things i can now look back at it as an adult and be like well i was trying to like put him in the place of my mom and he i was trying to make him take care of me the way my mom did and so it was just like it was going it was not go it was not going to be a stable relationship right and so and then he we just we didn't know what love is right i think around those times until right now
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i'm still un learning what love is to me personally and so finding who matches that same understanding of connection so that was crazy because i was trying to replace my my mom with a guy and then it blowing up in the public eye and so i just i remember like we like posted this video and then the next day it was like all over the news and i was just like what is happening like i don't
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understand and then people are like we're calling them influencers and i was like what what does that even mean i didn't i didn't understand because i was like i'm a mo like i've been a model my whole life and so it just it blew and i honestly like i can't i wish i could tell you more about what happened during those years but i think i i've fully like disassociated like you know how like with trump you just like
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i've disassociated like between like 2015 to 2017 i was i don't really remember much but it was ins i just remember how quick everything happened and it was just like playing this it was my first time uh i don't want to say it was my first time acting but it was my first time playing a role and i was like this is interesting because i feel a lot of pressure to be this perfect thing all the time
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when in fact i was actually the complete opposite and that's why i i manifested this this character i was playing online because i wanted to be here so bad because i was a wreck and and i i came to a moment where like the relationship wasn't going well um the traveling was too much on my body because we were going we would just spend like three days in one place and hop around it was just like the most
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insane filled up a passport in like two years so it was a lot on my body as well and i just remember it was my body that gave out first and i've always my mom always told me to listen to my body test myself always say my name over again until i can hear myself again like all of those things she's taught me but i forgot all of it i threw ev all of her knowledge all over
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wisdom tell us some of those things walk us through some of those that you let go of because i think they'd be really powerful yeah okay so one of the things that she always whenever i would hang out with a friend um i would come home and she'd be like are you there i was like what do you mean and she was like you sound like sophia are you on sofia's identity right now say your name
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and so i would say alexis and she's like say your full name so i'd say my full name and i'd keep saying it until i'd i hear my voice drop like back into my identity and then she'd body test me and she'd be like she'd say i am alexis and she pushed me down and my um it just kept getting stronger i do this with supplements as well when i'm holding a supplement i'll hold it down and press it down to see if my body recip like
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likes it or whatever it is um she would she was a firm i she would um play the secret in the minivan whenever we like go on our errands and i'm just like what is this i don't understand and she'd be like we have magic honey and i was like what yeah so i was like i want to manifest something and you know at the time you know i'm like 12 being like i want to manifest a red ball and so i like spent
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three weeks trying to manifest this red ball this is still like my favorite manifestation story ever but like i still think it's like my best accomplishment in my conversation because it was so like specific i knew exactly what it felt i knew what it looked like i didn't know where it was going to be but i just knew i was going to find it and three four weeks later i found it at the
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park and i was just like i like freaked out i was like mom this spoke she was like football i was like the ball i thought in my head when you said that we have magic powers um so that was like that was weird i love that so yeah it was like she was always just planting these like seeds of she would never tell me what it was she would just have me question whether or not that felt good
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to me like that the truth itself she was like how do you feel about us having you know powers beyond just our hands and i was like that sounds amazing and she was like all right well then that could be a possibility like why don't you try like why don't we we practiced this together so it was almost like i was like um you were like partners she was like my friend i would say more so than a mother which i wanted to
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replicate within all of my relationships all of my friendships like that was like she was so just so powerful in that way um but yeah amazing yeah sorry you you were telling me i don't know what i was saying i said you said that at that time you let go of all of these things that your mum had taught you that's that's why i want to decide so yeah so just like let it go i didn't
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didn't believe in magic anymore i didn't like it was um i like saying magic better than law of attraction because i feel like that's been like overused but i'm i like magic yeah magic it's way more fun um so i got to the point where my body failed on me and so i got super sick i remember i was bedridden for like three weeks and i had an amazing support system and obviously we all know how special like
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our support system is and i kind of was i didn't see them at the time because i was just in this relationship i was traveling at but they were always on the sidelines like my god sister and my sisters and like my godmothers i have so many grandmothers it's like actually crazy and i'm so blessed it's just like oh are you my mommy like literally like i'm just like i love shout out guys you
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know who you are um but they slowly the second they saw that my ears because my mom would always say she was like um if someone's not ready to hear you don't bother trying to speak to them and so they finally kind of came around and were like are you ready to listen i was like i'm ready because i was like in bed and that's when i started to really like i went through like deep we ended the relationship and
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then i went through this crazy i was a healing journey it was almost like um how would i explain it like i took myself through my own like retreat i would say like i did like i had things i would do every morning like i journal like take out the trash journal every morning like get out all of my thoughts see what my patterns were that created my identity and see then
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what patterns i wanted to hold on to or let go of and so that was a lot um and then at the same time i was like i want to go deep into this modeling thing like i want to do i want to do this i want to finally do what i've always wanted to do i felt like i got sidetracked with so much traveling and it was exhausting me and i felt like i was living in someone else's dream like i wanted to do this and so
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i went deep into modeling and i was like super excited i did sports illustrated and like all these amazing things um but there was but my mental health was getting worse and i was like what is it happening i don't unders like alexis i almost felt like embarrassed i was like wow alexis everything is happening why are you a wreck like i was trying to hide it constantly with even my closest friends
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because i was like this doesn't make sense and this is like actually ridiculous and i'm being dramatic so i need to stop um to the point where my god sister ally um ally uh ally um she was like i think you uh she was like you need to come to hawaii you need to come to hawaii and you need to get out of hollywood you just need to like get out of this thing that's so attracted to the essence of you that is not
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all of you like i want you to fall in love with all of you and so i went to hawaii and actually lived there for nine months and that was when i really went like it was so hard like self-healing is not fun no it is not no everyone everyone's like the five minute journal like how do you feel today great like no like i'm just like wow i ended up falling in love with poetry because i
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would just like get so deep into one the pain that i would almost find i would get a high this is weird i'm sure artists and poets know this but like you get like a high off of like seeing some a pain in you that can be told in a way that everyone can and you're just like what what like and so i i just like wrote and i was like in the jungle i would just spend all day meditating like we my sister would make me
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like go to a tree and scream at a tree and like just we like just going through the whole thing to almost like she she would she used the um she said she said to me one time she was like it's like an onion she was like we just have to take off all the layers that were put onto you like from literally the moment you got here she's like i'm not just talking about like what you think is your trauma she's like
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i'm talking about everything because no matter what it's like we get here in life and we're just like perfect we're pure just experience we're just here for the moment everything and then slowly but surely we start getting like well this is how we should feel about this this is how we should feel about this this is what happens when we do this this is our idea of love and like it just goes goes
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goes so we went so deep into the healing to where i almost felt like a clean slate again and the second that i felt that dancing with the stars called me and they were like you should you should come back telling me and i was like it always happens like no i'm like as soon as you're doing your deepest healing you get this like huge opportunity exactly and i was like ah
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i don't know if i want to do that and i was very uncertain because i'm i'm always very wary when it comes to reality tv um because you know they they can just like change things you can change things differently like so so intensely to the point where i'm just like that wasn't even me um but i remember i remember one of the books i read simon sinek he was talking about the why and i was like well if i
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can just have a why with everything i do then i don't have to be worried about the outcome because i had my intention um and i remembered it being one of my my mom's favorite show on the planet and i was like and so i went back to la and did the show and that was like crazy i got to dedicate a dance to her which was insane and like i was just there for the experience i honestly to be honest i i
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actually didn't want to win i mean you get wrapped up in the competition but i was like i don't want to win i just like but i love that you did it because it was for you your mom loved the yeah it was so fun got to dance for her and it was just like that was a crazy experience so it's almost like and this is what i kept seeing and around this time i was questioning what do i want to be
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for the world this was around the time where i was like speaking my head out being like i don't have to i can i offer more to this world than just the way i look because they keep telling me that's all i have but like maybe i have more and did you really feel that that people would just you felt that people's response was that that's all you have was that very like yeah is that like a
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visceral feeling cyber bullying is like a real thing it's tell us about that because i think that you're someone obviously who's stood up for so many important causes like you're saying now you've had cyberbullying trolling comment sections whatever it may be tell us a bit about what you experienced and then how you found your way through it and i get that it's an ongoing thing yeah no for sure i mean
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it was it was really helpful when i started to self-reflect because then i could just see the pain that people were inflicting on to me and i was like it's almost like if you're pretty you can't be smart you can't have because it's it's too much and then you're too much of a threat and then it's like that scares and i was just like it made me sad so at first it hurt me because i was like they're right
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like i would believe them i'd be like they're right like i should just you know stay in my lane and then after a while i was just like no the only way and this is what i've been coming to learn with the community is like the only way i can authentically help you is to be that is that is i can't preach to you i can't teach you i have to be it and if i want everyone living and knowing that they're
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multi-dimensional beings and knowing that they can do so much at the same time then i have to honor and see that in me and that's terrifying because then that means i actually have to like stop leaning because they were right i was leaning on this thing of like what society was telling me that i was and so i almost had to like take off my like training wheels and just be like you're on a bike now
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you're going downhill we have breaks you've never used them yet but like this is what we're doing and that's when i started to figure out like no i don't want to conquer the world i want to like help it and then how can i serve because i've whenever i think of my idols and just people who i look up to you know when i was younger it was like the victoria's secret angels and now for
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me it's like my godmothers like oh my god you guys are in like actual warriors like true warriors and so why do you think that changes and and obviously victoria secrets themselves have gone through a massive evolution recently like but why do you think that changes as you grow older because i think that's something that a lot of yeah young adults teenagers and then when you
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become an adult you you start looking at your family differently your parents differently their sacrifice well yeah because you start to i feel like you start to just like actually see them like you almost come up to like the oh like you're not just like looking up my mom one of my things my mom implemented in me was like you're not um she was like i would prefer it if you call your friend's parents names by
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their first names just like do it and see how they feel i was like what so i can call him mark i don't have to call him mr you know whatever and she's like he's like no like we're human like let's let's i want you to be on everyone's terms and i want you to see how that feels um well i mean for looking up to victoria's secret models i still think like what they created back in the day was
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beautiful and it was it was art you know it's just like something to celebrate and it was a type of woman that we could celebrate we can celebrate all types of women's but um i think it was more so their energy of like i own this space that i'm living in and it was it was new to me because i was growing up in a living situation where my mother was very much so like let me just she's like it's like we're the water and
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she's the tub and she's like let me just like form to however you guys need um and so it's very much a people-pleasing complex of just like i'm going to be everyone's everything and the perfect everything for them which ultimately is the reason why like i think her health declined because you can't sustain that it's unsustainable um and then there was a lot of things that
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i didn't see within her so i think for me heroes are the people that have are continually admitting why they're not almost if that makes sense like it's just like oh no i but not um like still being like humble and stuff but just continuously knowing that there's always something to learn there's always something you don't know like my mom always said stay teachable stay teach always stay you were you
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never know like the person who is like ahead of everyone else is the one that knows that he knows nothing like is that kind of the vibe and so that's what i grew up in and so that kind of energy i started to be attracted to more than just like i own this space yes it was more so like these these these people who would sit in silence and like that's when i really started getting into like
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podcasts and and reading and i just went deep into that space um because the stories i mean i think at heart i've always been a storyteller like my whole life has just been a series of stories that i can your mother sounds like an amazing storyteller yeah absolutely and so listening to people's experiences was the best way that i learned um and then i started to look up to those people so
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it just it changed from like this is the the image that i want to perceive to like these stories inspire me and like that's why this person inspires me so it changes over time it evolves and like thank god it does cause like to be honest it's exhausting only only thinking you're known as your looks like that is like actually the most soul exhausting thing because you constantly are in this state of fight or
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flight and it is like i've been starting to say this affirmation i think i started about a month ago but i always say like my looks are the least interesting thing about me like i always i can't say that all the time i'm just like i don't this is like not what i'm focusing on right now it's not what i don't care um like it's a tool but i don't that's not what i will rely on um that's not what i
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want females to rely on that's something i want them to celebrate and all image all um anything celebrate it um but it shouldn't be like a something to lean on like that's the unhealthiness and so when i created wear worries i can just like briefly touch upon this when i created yeah i was i think around 2018 i still have it in my notes it was really weird i was like scrolling through my
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notes one day and i went all the way to like 2017 and it literally said in a sentence i want to create a community that i can talk to and help evolve like once a week or and then also like in all of my like like intentions of my notes it was like i want to help evolve human consciousness that was like one of them and it was just like whoa like i had no idea what i was saying like notes are powerful you guys
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like has all the best ideas in the world of anyone in there i know you never look back you're just like this is gold and you never look back but like when you do like you guys after this go through your notes like like go through your notes like go through your notes i agree they're crazy you'll see one like things that you manifest that you didn't even realize and then two just parts of
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yourself that you're like i'm pretty cool like like i don't know i said that you know um so that was like the first i think manifestation of the company and growing up like in the fashion industry i felt very um like everyone was like you could create this brand or you could create this clothing and then but like my my love for the environment i was like we don't need another bikini i just
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this does not feel in alignment like this is not so how can i create something that is meaningful that does have a promise but but the company itself is the promise like it's not like a brand having a promise and so i knew from being homeschooled that the education system is [Music] you know i would love to help reconstruct that or take that down completely but um just saying just say yes we will work on
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it we need to work on it because um it's it's so it's so outdated and not the tools that you will need and it breaks my heart seeing i think i was yeah in 1920 i was seeing all my friends come come out of college or drop out of college being like well that was a waste of time and i'm like that's heartbreaking to me that is absolutely heartbreaking to me and like how can we
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fix this yeah it's like 18 years of your life and your prime life i was like you can learn at any point in your life but you're only going to be 18 once and so it's like it's like experience i would say experience more than be in a classroom but and it breaks my heart and so i knew that i wanted to help on that level i just didn't know what i didn't know how after like telling my story on dancing with
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the stars i was like storytelling this is like this is so much this is so much more me than anything i've experienced before and then what is what is versions of storytelling and i was like oh acting and the reason i never fell into acting is because i'm born and raised in l.a and so just like being here i'm just like well do i want to be like everyone else you know like it just it was
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everyone else was doing it and so i almost i wanted to go against the grain like as if mauling wasn't going against the grain but like in my head it was um you were the rebel yeah it was the frappe um but i didn't i didn't realize how much i loved storytelling and i almost and acting is very interesting it's like used it's a tool it's used to either get closer to yourself or farther
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away from yourself and i love the idea of finding myself in characters because like we really are we're a blank slate and then we build our identities and we're like this is me and so it's like the way jim carrey perceives it i truly do perceive it as well i'm just like i'm so excited to like find new parts of myself in this character and so i fall in love with it really quickly and so that's when i was like
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oh my god i can't why didn't i think and so i i went on to acting and i was so excited and everything was going so well um booked my first film and and then everyone was like hey um so there's this uh thing that's people are calling it i was like what is happening and i was on set from my film and everything got shut down like i was in oklahoma city and they were like we
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have to shut down everything i went to new york just to like go there for a second it was a ghost town it was i was like i've never seen this and i'm sure everyone knows what i'm talking about so i don't have to go deep into it but it was crazy and i was tripped out and i was mortified and i'm sure a lot not more i was i was so s yeah mortified i was so sad yeah because i'm sure a lot of people felt this like
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things were moving and like we were it was things were moving and girls my age you know 21 22 23 we're like at our stage where we're like young adults and like yeah people are graduating yeah like things are moving and like we're starting to really understand our career and that's truly what i felt and then everything just stopped and i was so sad and then at the time i was also going through a breakup so it
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was just like this horrible like i have nothing to distract myself from the pain of this lesson and then also you have to let go of something that you now have fallen in love with so there's like two things i fell in love with that i had to let go of and i was like never easy global pandemic around that yeah and then it was like i was texting my like are you guys okay like what's going on
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so that was really crazy and so my god sister once again i was like hey you should come to hawaii like i'm here hawaii is your place it's me and me and hawaii have such an interesting relationship because she's like you ready to come home i'm like no i don't know i want to be here in hollywood and she's like you need to remember i'm like no i don't know and so it was like that again and
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so i felt that happening again and i was like no i just went through this in 2000 i don't want to do like a rebirth like i don't want to i don't want to go through any pain even though i was already in pain and clearly i needed to go and fix some things and within myself yeah yeah yeah um and yes i went back to hawaii and it was actually very it was uh it was amazing but in the
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beginning it was very hard because i basically had no idea what i was doing um no one did i i felt horrible because i was miserable and yet i was in a beautiful place so i and then that was like there was this guilt as well of not being able to enjoy it and and i didn't feel right complaining about any of it but i was just in a lot of pain and that's when i started to
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go back to what if i'm feeling this way like who else is feeling this way and who else has been feeling this way for a very long time and so we are warriors just kind of started it just it really it it's interesting it started as a workout program i was just like i'm just going to create a workout program but with this workout program i'm going to be doing live calls every week with the girls to like like
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talk to them and keep updated with them and i'm it just the first live call it was very much about the workout stuff and then the second life call we just started started kind of talking about like lots and beliefs and experiences and and it and i saw the opportunity that i had i mean i had hundreds of girls on this live call and i was like this is the kind of change and i think and i've said this before and i'll say
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it again because i believe it's so much we think impact is like so much about numbers and views and and if we don't have a million views on this video it wasn't a success or whatever it was but in retrospect that kind of impact does not work at the same of having 30 girls on a live call and i'm talking to them directly about their trauma and their experience like that i know for a
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fact and like not to get in my head myself but like it's just so powerful and profound it's deep it's real it's depth yeah it's real and like substance i know that my conversations with that girl is going to help them be a better friend a better mother a better like everything because i'm helping change their fundamental beliefs and helping them work through their trauma and so
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i didn't know that i could even do that but because i went through my mom because i went through all these things i can look at pain as pain and be like now how do we want to approach this what's the story you're telling with the pain and then what is the actual pain and so like separating the two and then figuring out how we heal both of them was very it's very interesting and so yeah i felt
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um like there was something there and so i just slowly started to grow it yeah what i love about that though is that i i think what you just showed there is sometimes you just have to start yeah like you don't you don't know exactly what it's gonna be but if you really care about it and you're present it's going to teach you how it needs to evolve exactly and now you know not to talk about numbers but but to show how
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much it's grown it's like you've got over 3000 people in over 70 countries and it's amazing congratulations when you first told me about that and i remember seeing the articles in forbes and just seeing the coverage and i was just saying this is amazing like this is so special and today when i'm here listening to your background and your mother's coaching of you and schooling of you
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and and i could see just how present she is and her wisdom is in your life i'm so excited for you to be sharing her through this as well and that's what you said that this is what she would have done yeah tell us about what what what you're doing and you're like oh this is what my mom would have like tell us a bit about that she has taught me that it's not about trying to help a thousand people it's
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like it really and this is so cheesy but like i keep saying it to the girls as well in the live calls i'm like you guys if you can just make someone smile in an elevator life will be a lot better like we're at the point where it's just like let's just enjoy this experience like i know that there's a lot going on and i understand that and we need to help where we can but we're all suffering and
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so we should look at that like suffering is like what we connect on and so then how can we break through like the the the veil like if i can just like crack a joke and make someone laugh like almost like break the character of like i'm just the guy delivering food like that's so healing and it's like having an honest it's like you're fueling people up so it's almost like you can be
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chargers for these people like you can and so i am being chargers for the girls so that they can go out and then be charges for everyone else and so that's one of the things my mom and she was the best listener on the planet tell us about the community more like tell me a bit about like you know what what are the ways in which we are warriors is helping the community what kind of sessions do you have online what are the
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kind of themes and topics what are the formats structure because i'd love for our listeners to get involved yeah and i'd love for them to have an opportunity to hear about it from you yeah so um we are warriors it's like a educational personal wellness communities so i think communities are the future of social media or at least i hope so because then it's like a group of people having a common goal that they
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can accomplish together and i i think like communities with goals is like a very powerful thing and that's what i've been seeing um and even being homeschooled i was in a community of homeschooling homeschoolers so it's just like very powerful so we are warriors it's a set of different challenges each month i like the idea of challenges because it gives us a finished goal like a finish finish
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line and it's exciting and so for instance like last month and we tackled different subjects as well that was one of the things because when i think personal wellness i think there's like a 365 degree approach and i do think fitness is a huge thing for girls just having the motivation like fitness is like keeping up with my routine and my body has been the reason i am who i am today and i understand
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that but we like we think of it as vapid we don't think of it but like it actually creates it it sets up the day for me and so creating a community where the girls could do that together was very special so but then i wanted to like expand on that so like in april we had um nicole lapin for the finance challenge to talk about like taxes and stuff so i wanted to i just wanted to
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take girls through courses that i know will help them that are actually going to help them yeah and it's almost like filling the gaps of the education system like whether it is talking about like we'll have a whole month on mental health we have um right now we're in beauty month right now where i have like one of the top skincare women in the world and she's like here having live
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calls with these girls talking to them and coaching through them and then for me i can tackle more of like the spiritual aspect of like well why is this manifesting on your cheek let's look at that and like having those deeper conversations where we can really tackle every essence because i realized it was like it doesn't matter if you work out every day because if you hate yourself it it's
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just it's almost like there's a huge wall in between you and your goal and so it has to be both there it has to you have to have the manifestation with the physical action um and so i'm just right now i'm just testing that with different subjects um we i want to have an environmental month where we have like different people come on to talk about things that are going on in the planet um not overwhelming
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because not something too overwhelming because what happened to me i went deep into the plastic pandemic and i almost got paralyzed like tell us tell us about that like how can you get so involved in something that actually paralyzes you because it's just that bad like if you i read i think over 10 books in the course of a couple months about plastic and kind of like what's
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happening and how we're basically finding it in pregnant lady and their placentas now because the micro plastics and we need a credit card a week and like it's it's it's so scary that it almost it just like it i i didn't know i could i couldn't even be me i couldn't even be happy because all i saw was that i was like okay well maybe that's not the approach because what happens is like
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you paralyze and then you just want to forget about it so i i want to like slowly like ease them in not so much about the facts because the facts are really hard to take in yes we'll talk about facts but it's more of like what can you what are the little things that we can do what what brand can we bring along that backs this that can partner it and then we can all just kind of get
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better together like is the vibe for me is like let's just get better little by little together like it has to be together though because what i've seen with the girls is like and what's cool about the community is like they host their own live calls too like i'm not like if a girl for instance we have one girl who's um going to law school and she's like anybody who like wants to learn about like law and or have
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conversations so they'll have law they'll have conversations so it's almost like um i didn't want the community to feel like they're looking at experts yes the goal is that they find their inner expert and then they can kind of like shine in their own live call and that that's when i've seen the most transformation because they can actually put it to practice absolutely which like i don't i
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don't see school does for many people um so that's the transformation that we've been saying is just one the connection that these girls have is actually crazy i'm so honored to be a part of it and like facilitate the space for them to be all best friends um and two like the goal is to like create physical events and like really i i really think that entertainment and education should go hand in hand like
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i don't under i'm like why do we have like billions of billions of dollars going into entertainment and yet we can't add like 20 percent of that into like just put education within the entertainment yeah it should be fun it should be exciting like it's like i said in the beginning like it's what we're here to do is learn and like create learn create learn create it's just like
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this circle and so it's like i don't know finding how to re-reignite their passions is for themselves like fall in love with themselves and then reunite the passion is really really powerful to me and then by helping these girls like i know that when they're they become moms they're they're gonna understand not to give away their identity because one of the things that i see in moms like so much
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of the time is they just like they just become mom and i and i'm like no you're still this girl before you were a mom and you're still and i i i think one of the things that i wish that i wish or i wish for all of this to help is to make sure that these girls continue on with who they are and then it's like who they are and then they're all of the subcategories all of the characters that they play go below that
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um because i've seen it too much in marriages like the the female just loses her identity and then becomes resentful it's what happened in my family i've seen it way too many times with the people around me i'm just like how can how can we heal this and this is like actually an ongoing conversation in my head so it's just like yeah no i'm really glad you brought that up i'm working on my
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second book right now and i talk a lot about how you know in a partnership in any relationship the goal is to always help each other find each other's purpose exactly because if you're not doing that like when i think about me and my wife when i met my wife i was quite clear about what i wanted to do and she had loads of talents and skills but didn't quite know what she was going to do with them
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and over the last five years of us being married she's really come into her own and she's really growing and flourishing and thriving and it's been beautiful to watch but i fully agree with you that it's you can't think that oh no but your purpose is just to do this or your purpose is just to look out look after the home or your purpose even as a whoever the role is doesn't matter what
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gender you are but the idea of oh your purpose is just to make money for the house like that's not a purpose like we all have so much more to do so i love that you brought that up because you get lost in your role yeah you you get lost in your roles that's like a real thing and that's what i'm learning from acting as well i was like don't get lost in your roles like don't do that like i've i've heard people do
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method acting that have actually lost relationships in the real world because of that and so when i hear that i'm like wow exactly well it's a great example of what we do in real life as well yeah um because i do think like at some point with like a long-term relationship or friendship whatever it is it's like you choose to have them come with you and if you're not choosing that then the
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relationship didn't work not because it was like you didn't bring them along or they didn't or you didn't see where they were going and wanted to come with them it is as much as like we love the butterflies and we love all that this is a team partnership yes like if you go we go yeah you know yeah we go and you can't be someone's purpose like don't try and make it like no i am
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your purpose like what i do is your purpose and my purpose is the same as yours it doesn't work it doesn't work like that like you can't project your purpose onto another person and expect them to just want to live for that right exactly exactly and then this is all of these things i've been learning recently like in the last couple of years especially with like going through like so many public
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relationships and having that be oh god public relationships are terrified oh my god after i was like i'm good after after my last public relationship i was like i'm good i'm so good i'm gonna just be me in my own little world no one gets no um because not only are you creating roles in the relationship but now you have the public creating characters of the people that you are so it's like you're fighting
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like you're it's like you're having conversations with like four different versions of the person you're dating and you're like oh my god like and half of them aren't even real yeah it's like a foggy mirror you're just like hello um so that's been really interesting and then i always feel that relationships are the best reflection as to where you are right because they're just like i'm just
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your walking reflection right now that's why we're in this together right so i i always get excited when i because i'm starting to just meet so many amazing people and i think that's like what i've been learning as well is just like there's no there's no villain anymore it's like we can stay together or we can leave in good faith and good heart and like it's just it's not you know in high
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school you're just like what um now it's just like oh good like you you did me a service by leaving because you were being disserviced to me and you for staying because you didn't feel so it's like at the end of the day it's all perfect like what can i it's all perfect yeah and then trusting that like what helps you trust and accept that when most of our minds hold on to the
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but it could have been like this or because i feel that's what it is right it's always this battle between imagination and reality and a lot of us prefer our imagination yeah but then we have to yeah and then we have to deal with reality and i oh i've read something actually i want to read this to you because i think you'll like it wait let me find it let me find it i have to read it to you because i
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don't want to mess it up you know it's it's you know when you like try and say something so this is by johann wolfgang and he said few people have the imagination for reality ooh and i read that and it literally like it really that's like there's something it packs a punch right it's like few people have the imagination for reality and i was thinking wow wow like i think my imagination's
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good but if i had a really good imagination i'd be able to accept and trust my reality well you're kind of like i'm a great storyteller and the universe is like sit down sit down you can tell it later once it's over you can say it's yours but it was mine like that's like fully like what i experienced that's beautiful you know it's like sit down like you you write it while i create like you know what i mean like
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you remember it you tell the story it's ours you know but it's mine but it's ours you write i'll edit it yeah and so like that's kind of the relationship that i always see and per your question earlier imagination and reality it's i always at this point with heartbreaks there i don't see it as heartbreak anymore i see it as growing pains and that's sometimes even worse because
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you're just like i was i was good i was good with just this like i didn't i didn't i don't want to grow like i'm good like i'm tired i just want to like watch netflix and chill like i don't want to evolve anymore even though i like just got here in retrospect but like it's still and so if i look at it as growing pains and then you know as because we're all artists we're all artists and so what i'll do
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now and it's actually so intoxicating is i'll create i'll write poetry i'll write music based off of the experience i mean we know all of the biggest artists in the world are like let me tell you about my heartbreak and then they get they blow up because of that and i'm just like that's in all of us and so every single time that i have a new experience of heartbreak or just not working out or
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whatever it is i'm like there is there is gold in this pain there's gold in this pain and i cannot wait to get it out i'm just like so i get i get this weird like i get heartbroken then i get really excited so it goes back and forth it's almost um and i always i always tell people i'm like when someone leaves your life it's okay to feel like you're grieving and death because the character that
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they played in your life it's not there anymore and so you are grieving someone that's no longer there like you are like when i get broken up with someone i truly love and i'm crying and i'm in that space it is very similar pain to when i lost my mom and so like i always reach when any time like my girlfriends me and she's like crying stop me i'm just like this is valid don't worry like feel it like feel it
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because you lost a character that you thought was in this season but it's not and like you thought he was going to be your season finale he's not but it's all good there's a season 60 there's season 40 like you know there's so many seasons in your life so it's just coming back to oh so if if he wasn't meant to be here then what i attracted was more parts of myself i became more me because he came
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into my life and that is the biggest blessing i could have ever asked for like i am a product of everyone that i've dated and i've and i've found i've fallen in love with them and then those parts that i fall in love with i've like i like i took them for myself and so i almost i'm getting to the point now where i don't grieve it anymore because i'm like well the person that i was in
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love with i became and so that's so interesting how even if that person wasn't there no the parts that you thought you fell in love with like how powerful it is like relationships always fascinate me because i've always been a relationship girl and seeing how much people grow after relationships it's like i mean you guys have ever seen like don't break a girl's heart you know what
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i mean like it have i just i just watched my sister do this and i'm just like she's gonna be so good after this like i'm so excited like i get so excited for her because like i just like i love it upgrade like girls get hotter like it's just like it's such a vibe i i get i get so excited because we need it's almost like um the fire it's like it breaks your heart open so you can light fire and i'm just like yes
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like let's go so it sucks it always sucks um but once again like back to that same belief that i had like the more he pulls you back it's like a slingshot he'll just like launch you for it so i just at the beginning of 2020 i was just like oh this is painful this is painful i wonder what's gonna happen and now it's like i can honestly say i've helped more people than i ever would
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have meant imagined and i'm also like playing with this belief and like i think all companies should is like can we just like stop this idea that like a company or a brand living forever is success because it's just it's not like it's not sustainable things evolves and so i always tell myself i'm like whether this company stays whether it does that's not the point that was never the point the point
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is is i've helped i would say over now like 10 000 girls truly like actually help them like speaking to them talking to them one-on-one and that i will carry with me they will carry with them like that's good enough so it's like it's almost like this is good enough it's okay it doesn't have to last forever none of these things have to last forever i feel like we're so
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in in companies in general even though this is a community but like companies it's like we're so thirsty to just be the monopoly and i'm like no yeah what is this world going to look like if we're all trying to be monopolies we can't yeah like are you good are you safe you have a roof over your head you can host people like you're good you're good like let's now how can we
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return the face and do more and it's like so i that's kind of where i'm at with weird warriors is like it will continue and it's going to be amazing but the impact is already there and i'm so honored to like do have that impact on them you know it's just because it's so real no you i'm so glad that you're owning that and accepting that because i i couldn't agree with you more i think we're fascinated with
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longevity and lasting till the end and even in relationships you stretch out far longer than it needs to be just because we think end means failure failure and and you're so spot on that the impact the end is insignificant really it's it's all about what's happening right now in this place right today yeah i forget i'm like it's right here fam yeah if you're making an impact yeah if
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you're making an impact on all of these women today and they're impacting each other and you're empowering them to also become their own experts and discover their skills i mean that's beautiful yeah and i'm so glad that you made that point because i think our our obsession with making something last is unhealthy everything yeah it's unhealthy it's unhealthy it's unhealthy and you're only 24. yeah right now yeah
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yeah which is amazing like that's that's that's the insane part here i feel like i'm speaking to the oldest soul in the world and then i have to remind myself and it's that's that's such a wonderful thing because you know you're carrying your mother's energy in such a special way yeah no it comes through it's like it's it's so clear yeah that that you know and it's cool too because like for anyone who's
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lost someone y'all have a speed dial up there like you guys can just like i literally i'm like mom and she's she's right there and so i'm like you have the strongest connection to the other side or whatever you believe it's really truly whatever you believe because i'm pretty sure all this is made up i mean we're just like i'm sitting on an idea right now which trips me out
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sometimes i don't know like it's weird um but it's like we have such a deep connection to the other side because we have that person on the other side and so i utilize that as much as i can and whenever i forget um i just like i'm like how can i remember how can i remember i think that's where i am right now i just i i will um it's always the environment too so like i'll juice incense i'll make lights
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candles and i'll just sit down and i'll remember like whether that's just sitting in silence it's helping me remember but or just writing until something else comes out that's what it's or talking to a friend about it like i i think i'm at and i think we're all at that point where it's not it's not so much you're learning something new it's almost you're just remembering what was already there on top of
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everything else per what my sister said about the onions and just unraveling it and so um it's constantly coming back to that but like i still you know still suffer like we all suffer like it's all good it's all good how have you got through that you know you talked about this earlier and i think you've experienced this like you've and and i love what you said because we were
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we were connecting on this beforehand and i i sometimes feel the same way because i thought i was going to be a monk and that's literally what i built up so before that i had so many passions but my parenting was ignore the passion do the safe thing and so my passions were music my passions were spoken word and my passion was philosophy do you still write spoken books i do i do yeah it's it's such a
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passion for me and i feel like a lot of my videos and a lot of my content is still wordplay and and has so much i still use this spoken word in a different way today exactly and so that's so much a part of my life but it was like do the safe thing and so i was studying business and i thought i'd be an investment banker or a consultant or whatever any of that stuff and then i became a monk that became my dream
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and mom dad yeah literally like from all of that to that but even letting go of that i would say i'm most myself in what i do today and being a monk was part of that but it's not all of me and being in media which is what i am now is not all of me it's a part of me and then being in the world of business was a part of me it's not all of me and i think you are so right that we limit
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ourselves we feel society limiting us and we feel we have to choose to be one thing and i think that the fact that you're 24 years old and you've allowed yourself to continue to do this and you still do today i think that's so wonderful because i think a lot of people stay stuck until again wanting to make something last yeah wanting to make something last and like every single thing and i i will say this
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with absolute certainty like every single thing that any of you guys have been doing and that you feel like was the thing and then it's not it is serving yes what your thing is like ballet i spent literally 20 almost 20 years every day four five six hours a day i would be on point and my feet still hurt you know like it's just like but because of that it's translated into
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storytelling i know how to use my body my work ethic is insane i understand i know how to take direction there is i know how to feel when i move like it is literally serviced me in everything i've done and so it's just it's almost just like being okay with letting it go but then you don't actually let it go it's always there that's the thing it's like it's always there serving you yeah um
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and so that's that's how i feel with pretty much everything i do my mom said another thing my mom said is like she goes um just be passionately curious because put so much pressure on us so my mom would always just be like just be curious like just like follow your curiosities and if if it doesn't lead you anywhere just be like oh that was interesting and then go over here and so that's that's
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what i do and like given i do i still of course have big dreams but like i let my curiosity take me like and i don't the big dream is not the goal it's like the little moments that get up to it right right so like when i'm when i'm having a director meeting and i'm like talking to them about a role or whatever it is it's like my intention in that call is to make the director feel good not to get the part
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and so just like having those little indirect of like wow that's such a huge thing you just dropped yeah that's a huge thing it's who you are it's who all of us are it's like if you can stop going well this is my goal to like my intention i think intentions are actually the most underrated most powerful things i've ever like i still learn about how we have an intention 24
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7 with everything every single thing we do we just like sometimes we're aware of it sometimes we're not and so when you can put an attention an intention on something before you do it it's it's crazy how powerful it is so it's like i always make sure because at the end of the day and this is kind of what we're all looking for i think even more so than the diploma than the thing and
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the degree is someone that we connect to someone that we feel close to someone that we almost feel like we've already met before like that essence comes from the intention of making that person feel connected not from i hope i'm right for this i hope i'm this and so like i whenever i hire from my company that's my intention i was like i don't really i don't care where you went to college like
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why would i care like i care about who you are like what like what's your like what's your intention like how are you gonna be fun to work with like are we gonna because ideally i want you to be in this for the long run and so do i wanna be talking to you for the next five to ten years like what does that look like and so having that perspective on when it comes to jobs when it comes to
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meetings anything ever is like the human connection should go first no matter what no matter how bad you want it like the human connection is first um that's actually been the best like magic trick my mom taught me because it's like it it always it always provides what i need and then what the other person needs so for instance i was like very excited for this role that i almost got a couple weeks ago i was very
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excited won't say any names and he was so sweet and we were talking we're having such a good time and i really understood the character and it was really great but then you know because i don't i'm not very experienced in the space he was like we're gonna choose someone else and i was like that's completely fine but then i was sitting in meditation and i had this urge to write him an email and i didn't
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i didn't know why because my goal wasn't necessarily to get the part i just almost felt like the the connection of me and him wasn't finished and so i just sent him a thank you and i was like thank you so much for speaking giving me your time like learning about me because who i am matters because you need to get to know if i fit the character like all of these things and because of that it
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almost solidified our relationship and that but that wasn't my intention my intention was just like this isn't over i don't know why and i'm just gonna sit down and see so like listening to almost like letting it overpower whether or not [Music] what happened it's like if you don't feel like it's finished like go in there with the intention that you want to just solidify the mirror
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that you guys are reflecting towards each other as opposed to like the opportunity that's kind of on the sidelines yeah um so that's been a huge tool huge it's like actually like the probably the reason i'm here to be honest so shout out tool did you say i love that today i've discovered how funny you are which is great which is really awesome which is really awesome so i i love that we're going to have so
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many memes made out of this interview for you there's going to be so many great ones alexis is there something that i haven't asked you about that's like on your mind you're like i have to share this i want to share i want to say this uh before we go into the final five but i want to know if there's anything that you're feeling intuitively as you are just thank you so much like actually thank
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you so much i'm gonna deteriorate just like saying it but thank you i feel like i don't know it was weird like once i finally solidified this podcast with you there something like clicked inside of me and i was like like i am becoming the person i want to be and like i and so just like thank you for showing that to me because it really i i'm not yeah i just thank you i have no i just like words don't they they're
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not it right now so but thank you yeah so just that's it that's all i have to say i love that i love that that means the world to me and and i'm and i'm hoping that that synergy and synchronicity continues and you know this is the beginning of a great friendship so that's that's that's my hope i i really believe that honestly the podcast for me has either been a place where
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i had a lot of relationships offline that people didn't know the types of conversations we were having and so the podcast was a great way of me sharing hey i'm really good friends with the person this is what we talk about and i want everyone to hear it and then it's also been the opposite where it's been like here's someone i'm really interested to get to know and i wanted to start a friendship and
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so it's perfect yeah and so the podcast for me has been so much more than and it's what you're saying about a community more than a company or a brand like the podcast for me is not a show like that's that's not the point of it like it's it's a it's a way i can get to know humans that i'm interested in or i find interesting and help people learn about them so actually i should be thanking you
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because you know i think sitting down with you today has just completely blown my mind and opened up my mind to just so many possibilities as to how someone who's navigated so many stressful situations and i think the closer you get to it the more you realize how hard it is so when i was a young kid and i grew up in london i knew no one in the entertainment industry i was not in la
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or hollywood everyone in my area was you know not going off to work in anything to do with the world i mean now and because of that you look at people and you go oh life must be easy for you you guys have money you guys have fame uh you guys are attractive you you life why are you complaining right and as i've got closer to the industry closer to people that i coach that i work with
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clients of mine i've only just had more compassion for everyone both the people that are like me sitting back there judging and then both the people are in this situation because i realized we're all just feeling some type of pain and the more we can rise to that point without judgment the better it's going to be for us because we can evolve together yeah if we expect anyone who's successful to be
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always happy then what we're saying is when i become successful i have to always be happy and that pressure is right back on us it's interesting how that works and it's almost like um yeah anything that we direct outwards is an exact manifestation of what's going to happen inside of us and so we have to be so careful with our words like i don't why do you think they call it spelling
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spells like i'm like wow that's that's good i've not heard that before i like that that's good the words are like i am oh my god when i hear girls say like i am ugly or i am i'm just like no no like you can no i i refuse to let you say that about yourself because you would never say that about your daughter you would never say that about your friend and so it's it truly is like having these honest
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conversations with anyone at any level has been eye-opening to me and that's one of the reasons why i've always loved the podcast so much because i got to actually just see the person and not the characters that i see them play in life um so that's really it's really inspiring and then also knowing that pain happens on any level like pain is pain you know like me losing someone from a breakup is just as
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painful as me losing my mom to death and i was like that was a weird that was weird i was like and you almost feel guilty or like you feel like can i feel that do i allow myself to so it's like yeah validating on any level because that's actually what connects us as well and and i almost feel like until we um we have the goal right now is to to connect at every level of being human and then from
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there i mean i i'm pretty sure like an evolution would happen which would be really cool that'd be really cool i'd be like whoa can you imagine if we had everyone at the same time be like love yeah can you that would be crazy i've heard i'm sure you've like heard of those stories where like um they have like monks praying at same at the all at the same time like three
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thousand months or whatever and like the crime rates goes down in the city i've definitely heard i've seen studies on that before yeah same um but just those kinds of scenarios would be like i think that's the i that that's what that's what my work would ideally my like hard work i guess is what it's there for is to like have just more moments of like just people being an absolute like love and even when i
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can facilitate like we were talking about hosting and how like it's like the big house if you're not putting everyone in it like posting it like why do i have balcony i'm not gonna do anything on it like i'm gonna have all my friends like there and like host people and like why do i have more than one bedroom so i can let my friends be there and like just hosting and having that environment where like we come
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together and bring like real connection it is so it's it's helping the planet so much more than we know i've got two more questions for you before we go into the final five because i've just there's so many things i can talk to you about uh the first question i want to ask you was around your passion for acting now so you know what right now is making you so passionately curious about acting what
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is it about roles what is it about your development as an artist that connects you so much to acting it's it's almost like proving to myself how many different person or identities i can be i think it's like we almost i feel even though i seem outgoing i'm actually quite terrified all the time um and i would say i'm like an ambiver like an in-between but when it comes to acting i don't have a choice
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like i have to show up as this person if i'm nervous like it doesn't matter and like once i'm not thinking about lines once i'm like in that state where i just like have it memorized to the heart and i can just be there um it's it's similar to flow state i'm sure you've written i've read all i love flow state yeah i love this it is the goal yes for everything always so it puts me in flow state basically i
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don't there's no time i don't remember i'm not thinking about myself i'm not thinking about my body i'm not thinking there's it's just i'm just here and like similar similar to the way like when you surf like you're on a wave it's like it's those like 30 seconds of just like i blacked out i wasn't even there no and you're saying that you can actually surf so you've actually had that experience
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like most people use that analogy but we've never served so but you actually said yeah yeah just like any but you can actually surf yeah i deserve decently not good enough to the point where i'm like that guy in the surf being like where'd you catch my wave bro i'm like but just those moments like i think i'm right now i'm just searching for those moments in my life i'm just like
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when am i am i going to forget time here am i going to free up time here and so acting is just one of those things that i've seen is such a powerful and also it's it's best because i get to lose track of time with another person and i feel like like connection is so strong for me and so it's like i remember oh my god this was such a cool moment on my first set um it was an older actor he's been
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around for a long time i'm sure you know him i don't remember his name but he was very very kind and we had a scene together where he was kind of just like um like getting in my face about something um basically saying that i like wasn't worthy or what i don't know and i was just like i got this i got this i got this scene don't worry guys um and he was like getting my face and i
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just remember a moment where like we like lost i just it was i just wasn't there and he wasn't there and it was just a pure moment and i wasn't acting and i was actually feeling everything and then afterwards he comes to me and he looked at me at crafty's the little uh snack area he was like you get it he was like you get it don't you i was like yeah and he was like keep doing it kid like keep doing it it's amazing
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and he was like you get it and he was like he almost it was almost as if he like said like you're closer to source in those moments like and so he looked at me like you get it and i just flipped out after because i was eating banana being like i did it i did it i get it and so after that i was like okay this is like what i meant to do now for now i guess and like we'll see where that goes
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um but yeah i just once again like the intention the paths change but the intention stays the same so i think that's what keeps me that again loved that i just love that yeah i couldn't agree more yeah i think that's been a challenge for so many people we try and keep our path the same and then but we don't know our attention yeah but keeping your intention the same and the path changing oh i can so relate
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to that so back to those notes yeah like any intentions that you guys have like any of it just write it down so at least you just know yeah you just know because i forget my intentions of course yeah you have to repeat them daily i repeat them daily in my prayer in my affirmation at the beginning and end of the day i have to exactly exactly and then from there it almost like i
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and this is this may be a weird belief but i've been seeing this a lot in my life all the best things in my life i didn't work for and i keep seeing that as a pattern i'm like maybe god maybe god doesn't want us to struggle like the way like it's because everything that i've struggled for wasn't meant for me so that's been really interesting if almost being like you take the rings like you take the
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reins i'll create the intention but you create the story and like i'll trust the path and like whatever that is like let's go like let's make it fun right because like i i do feel like the more you can give to god to like if he gives you like a ball a red ball for instance like like if you have fun and you're playing with it he's going to be like oh he's she's playing with it i'll give her
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something else like and it's just like it's almost like entertain like show him or show the universe that like you're so stoked of what it gave you that it wants to give you more like you almost you know when like you have i have a puppy her name's angel and whenever i give her a treat she's so stoked that i ever treat that i'm like i gotta give you another one and so like i almost feel like that's
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and then when i walk my dog and she like is not least trained yet so she'll just be like like choking yourself out trying to like go everywhere and i'm just like is this what i look like oh no i learned so much from dogs also when a dog my dog is obsessed with a ball one ball in particular it's gross i can't believe she still has it i'm just like oh my god um so obsessed with this ball and i'm like
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that is amazing and literally her only goal with this ball is to give it back to me so that i can throw it so she can catch it so i can give it back to her shoot there's there's no point to this whatsoever and so it showed me i was like do it just for the act like don't do it for like the the idea the goal or the dream just just do it and so like whenever i play ball with her i practice
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that i'm like i'm acting just because it's fun because i just do it or i'm creating this company because it's fun and i just this is just what i do like i just it's just fun and like because every single time i've gotten caught up in like the huge image of things is like when i've lost sight of my heart's path and i'm just like ah yeah so but the greatness isn't within that path
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like for sure but it's never like the same path as you would see because it's literally just you playing with a ball and you're just like what's the point god yeah like just wait like just keep doing it for fun yeah yeah keep doing it for fun you're doing it for fun and so i almost and like now that i'm 24 i'm i'm in this adult life and i'm just like do i need to get serious now
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don't don't do it it's a trap it's a trap but it's so strong you i feel it heavy on me now like i need a schedule i need to wake up this time and god's like no you're not lazy if you sleep in that's a belief let's get rid of that like no you're not like did you no it's just literally i'm now taking off layers that i just got i'm like whoa what is this what and now that i'm coming into my mid-20s i'm just like
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what is this not supposed to be fun anymore because like that's what i've heard and that's what i like see a lot of times but i just refuse because it's so inspiring to meet i have a few friends that are like i would say like in their 50s or 16s and they're like children having the best in their life yeah their life and everything works out for them everything works out for them and i'm just like
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that is if i'm gonna tell a story i'd rather it be like that yeah i've added play back into my life so much like play is like one of my number one values that's why i got a dog in life yeah you're going to the park yes not for the dog for you but you're going to the park yeah i just want more play in my life and there was a there was a beautiful quote by richard branson where he said that
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you know you don't stop playing because you get old you get old because you stop playing and and i love that because it's it's been so big for me i'm at a place in my life where i'm like i play is a huge value and it sounds insane and people don't get it i just got back from miami i was there for two weeks and we were on a really busy schedule we were working from like 8am to 9pm every single day
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but at 9pm every day we'd go and play paddle tennis from 9 to 11. yes and i felt like a kid every night where i was just waiting to be out in the paddle court and i was just like have you ever played paddle tennis okay it's amazing it's it's i i am the biggest advocate of this sport i've introduced many but but play is just such a big value for me now yeah and even when i'm with
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friends i'm like what can we do that's playful that's playful like we've been i've been doing crazy things with friends like archery and like painting lessons and whatever it is because i just want to play you just want to play and it it it's it's where we create new passions play is where we create new passions so also boredom i i always am like bornhem is so valuable especially now with our phones and like
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all of this instant gratification and we've heard a million times and it's all known now but like for real though like i can't even drive without being like don't text and drive but look at all these billboards yeah you know it's weird i'm just like they're telling and it's just all of this is trying everything is trying to get your intention everything is trying to get your attention like to the tea
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and so i'm like okay how do i work against this and it's only going to get probably more intense i would assume so um so that's like literally i'll say it again that's why i got a dog that's like fully why i got a dog because i was like i need something that's i'm gonna get bad news on the phone i'm like okay bye and then the dog's just like okay here so you know how like in any
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like disney like movie like pixar whatever there's always a sidekick yes tangled the chameleon like there's a bunny and the abominable snowman yeah there is always like this really funny comical relief olaf in frozen yeah spirit animal yeah i was like i need to i want a sidekick like i want that idiot that's just like running and hitting a wall while i'm trying to like do business like i can we
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need that like that's so cool yeah so like movies are so powerful in the way that they like kind of they give us characters to like replicate and so i've almost like whenever i watch a movie i'm just like i like that character like that character is really cool like one of the shows that i actually like loved growing up with is entourage yeah okay i've got a funny story to tell you about
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android so i was a monk when entourage was famous so i never watched it so i didn't know what it was so my wife just made me watch entourage so we literally just finished it it's one of the best shows ever it's amazing yeah i would watch it i i would watch it again i loved it i literally just watched it this year exactly so it's like you have like the characters around you that are just like they're
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they're so needed and you don't know why but they're so needed like they're so important to the story and that's how i look at all of my friends i'm like you guys are so like creating your your your your show like is like in in a healthy way of course because but it's taught me a lot like as much as hollywood is very um toxic and and dangerous in ways but it's also a great way to get to understand how you
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want your life show to go like it's just like i can find parts of myself in different like uh have you watched dave yet no oh no no i have what what's the first season not the second gator yeah i need to get it in my life yeah like he's so funny i was just like he's just like he's there always making jokes always there always holding it together always holding strong like you need that per
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and sometimes it's you that's that person but i always that really helps me just like understand the the thing i'm doing so but the sidekick thing is like actually you guys like it really helps like i can't tell you how many times i'm like so upset and then angel like rolls over it falls off the bed like just i love it the funniest the edge is amazing i love it all right alexis i'm going to
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take you through our final five okay these are the fast fives you have to answer them in one word to one sentence maximum that's all you can say okay so you can do you can't even read these you can no no no no you didn't read them yeah no no you should i didn't you shouldn't read them okay so the first quote and i i changed them on the day anyway so it doesn't matter if you do read them because i
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just ask what i want to ask okay let's go okay so question number one is uh what is the best advice you've ever received i would i would just have to bring it back to what my mom said about being curious instead of passionate um it takes the edge off of so many great um so much pressure yeah it's just like just be curious and stay teachable be curious and stay teachable awesome great answer what's the worst
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advice you've ever received like you can only i would say like you can only be one thing in a life is like i've just been learned i've just been taught so much that like you're an accountant or you're a lawyer or you're an and now we're living in a world where it's like you can be all of those things you can be all of those things and so i just saying like oh you can only be one thing
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in life is probably the most wrong thing anyone's ever said to me for sure that's a great answer great answer all right uh third question in one sentence explain what is your current purpose or intention um i think my intention currently would be i almost want to say in this and it changed honestly this week is to just share more of myself by by learning about myself publicly i
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would and it's usually because a couple months ago my intention was like to help evolve consciousness in whatever way but now i really feel like it's my and i hope this isn't taken the wrong way but um i'm just really excited to to share myself like i'm i've worked so hard to be who i am and i'm not like afraid nor scared to say that i love myself and i'm really honored to be who i am and like i'm
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gonna continue to work and continue to be better but like sharing more of myself without the fear of rejection would be my intention and so like in all aspects of vulnerability yeah that's a beautiful answer thank you i love that yeah that's awesome all right question number four is what's the biggest lesson you've learned in the last 12 months since launching uh we are worries for yourself oh yeah um
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for myself i mean for myself i would say um you are what you've always wanted to be that's really that's really weird when you like when as soon as you decide you want to be something you already are that it's now it's just about proving to yourself that you already but you already are like you already manifested it and for like the girls i would say um i've learned a lot about teaching and
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how that works because i've always been curious like how do we teach kids and how do we keep it to stick and or keep it sticking when they learn it and like that um best way to teach is to be the example and we've heard that so many times but i've had to personally step up as a mentor and show that it's not about me listening to a story and being like this is what you did wrong this is how
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you should evolve it's like me being like hey guys so this is usually how all the live calls are hey guys so today this this happened to me this week let's talk about this subject of letting go but knowing when to let go and then ironically every single girl in the live was like i was feeling this way too this weekend so there is this like innate connection of like if you can grow from each lesson
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that happens the day or the day of and then just like be present with the experience and then show education in that way um that's when you can help people evolve the quickest i believe i think i'm just like at a speed thing like it's all like quick so you have to be it i love it awesome fifth and final question okay if you could create one law in the world that everyone had to follow what would
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it be uh you have to go outside at least an hour a day i think would be because that's what i do in nature in nature barefoot preferably um one to just acknowledge it yeah to acknowledge it um and also to like grow a love for it to like care to see it um and it's also for your health i mean we get like we're like oh why is our health decline i'm like when we're eating fake food we're watching fake
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things where um you know have we don't have the best air anymore because of even plastic itself like there's a lot of things that we have to combat now our water is not that good like there's so many things that we find invisible but it's like always there and so making the most of it even if it's go sit on a rock talk to an aunt like i've done very weird things when it comes to nature but like it's very like
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what's the weirdest thing you've ever done i'm asking you a sixth question i'm breaking all my rules ah what's the weirdest thing i've ever done well one time i like would talk to a tree for like an hour so that was weird that was like i was very outside of my comfort zone do you ever do it when you're like doing something so weird you get goosebumps yeah alexis for sure stop
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like for sure but you feel like it's activating something like whenever i get goosebumps i'm like something's happening yeah and so i just i pretended the tree was like like mother nature i mean i guess it is i didn't pretend but i pretended it was like you know pocahontas with the tree like that was like kind of what i was trying to go for and i just like talked to it for i would
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say about an hour and it was the most like beautiful thing it was also really cheesy and stupid but i it was yeah just having a conversation with nature herself was really cool it's beautiful yeah everyone alexis ren that's your final five done everyone if you wanna go and join the we are worries community we're gonna have the link in all of the descriptions wherever you're watching this listen to this please
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please go and join the community uh please tag me and alexis on instagram on twitter any platform that you're on to tell us what you learned from this i love seeing and we've been talking about being teachable and being curious i'd love to know we'd love to know what you learned what you're curious about what you're going to practice what you're going to try out because of this episode
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alexis it has been an absolute joy to sit down with you like this is i was already looking forward to sitting down with you i have to honestly say to you and i'm saying this on air and online because i want people to know this has exceeded all of my expectations and i was already so excited about this so i just want to thank you for sharing from your heart sharing vulnerably
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and with this comedic side that i'd never seen before so i i loved all of it and i really encourage all of you to you know just follow alexis and see what's going on because i'm i'm excited for you i'm so excited for you and i am so looking forward to being a part of the journey and and admiring yes right yeah exactly and cheering so i'm looking forward to that but thank you so much thank you jay
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appreciate it just talking about forgetting time we've been talking for two hours whoa that's cool see what i mean yeah and i love that i just want to leave that with everyone that thing that alexa said blew my mind like it was really powerful so she said something about once again there are two things now that now that i was saying there was one thing there were actually lots of things there were
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lots of things but there were two things uh there is gold in pain that really stuck with me you said that there is there is gold in pain and the second one was that you know like being passionate or being curious about something is when you forget time and that was and that's what we just did like i literally looked down i'm like you've been here like we started recording about one hour 15 minutes
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probably one hour 45 and yeah we've we've been talking for two hours so i just want to say that so thank you if you want even more videos just like this one make sure you subscribe and click on the boxes over here i'm also excited to let you know that you can now get my book think like a monk from think like a monkbook.com check below in the description to make sure you order today