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Welcome to the show, mate.
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It's good to meet you at last.
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>> I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me. I'm such a fan. >> Yeah, same.
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You're doing incredible work and it is work.
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You've worked really hard to get to this place where you can step on stage at these festivals and you can really make that impression which you already know is first for a lot of people. >> Yeah.
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>> And really walk off that stage and know that you left it all there.
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And I'm watching these videos online like everybody else and seeing these reviews and looking at the comments on my algorithm and whatever.
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And it's incredible, dude. >> Thank you.
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I am so happy that people are connecting with me with my music.
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My face is all over this room.
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It's creepy, but [laughter] but it's awesome.
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Also, >> but also, and I mean this with the greatest of respect, you're not afraid of that.
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Like, there's darkness in your music and your imagery.
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Like, I mean, it's only creepy to some degree because you've created an album cover, which is kind of creepy in a cool way.
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>> Yeah, I have that little ass smirk going.
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I think this um album cover is sick.
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I think a lot of people like don't really with it, but um I love it. >> Why? >> I don't know.
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I think they just are like, "What is this face that she's making?" >> I love it. I think it's cool.
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I mean, it looks like you've literally just jumped around the corner and like surprised and then you're out again. >> That's right.
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That's exactly what happened.
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This is like the last shot of the day, too.
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Like was not supposed to be the cover, but I love it.
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It's like very not polished, which is kind of what I am, I think.
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>> Well, you're a paradox in that regard because you incredibly dialed into your craft and have put so much into this.
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So I feel like a life, you know, on this on this journey to get to this point, but somehow you do want to keep it with edge. It's got teeth. >> It's got teeth. I got teeth.
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You know, I'm from Slovakia.
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I've had I have that Eastern European feistiness to me. Just ask my boyfriend. I'm sure he'd talk.
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[snorts] So >> I'm sure he wouldn't.
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[laughter] >> Yeah, I'm sure he would not actually if I did my job right.
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[laughter] Hopefully not.
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But um yeah, I think that's what I am.
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And I also Yeah, I think it's weird because I'm a ballerina and I I value like technicality and singing and dancing so much, but I think that's why I needed to kind of break out and be a little raw at times because ballet is so perfect >> all the time where I felt like a little suffocated.
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>> Is that why you decided to go from prima to pop star? >> That's right.
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And now I get to do both hopefully. Prima pop star. >> No, you do.
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And it's a beautiful hybrid, you know, because And it's awesome how you've been able to explain to people very clearly through your craft and also through your videos that like I'm not just talking here.
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Like I have the discipline to do that. >> Yeah.
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>> But I don't have the discipline to see it through. [laughter] >> No.
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>> Cuz once you Am I right?
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Cuz once you commit >> You're kind of right.
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That's like ultimately what my life has always been.
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[laughter] It's I like I'm like, "Okay, this is cool."
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Like there's a lot of like there's a lot of like steps where like if you do this, this will happen.
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And and then it's it becomes like >> a little too repetitive, a little too conf it just like confines me.
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And so something that >> I feel like I can't let loose. I can't like stretch.
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>> Well, you know, the only option you have when you make that call is to work for yourself. >> That's right. And I do. >> Awesome.
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Which is why I'm so late to the show. >> You're not. You're right on time.
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You're pop star early, dude.
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I had to wait for Eminem for 4 days once. You're fine.
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[laughter] That's a true story. 4 days.
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I was like in Tokyo for 4 days just like [laughter] how long am I going to be in Tokyo for?
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It's like as long as Eminem wants you to be.
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It's like all right, I guess I'm staying.
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>> I don't know if I'm slim shady level. Yeah.
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>> How did you feel when this was taking shape in the room and you had this kind of like really edgy pretty deep four on the floor electro banger and you were like, "Okay, that's my first single." >> Yeah.
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This song kind of went through a a lot of different iterations and at first I really hated it.
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>> Y >> why can you tell me why?
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>> It was just I was just like is this the worst thing on earth?
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Like I was like I was like does this just suck rat's ass?
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And then we kept we kept making it and then we kept tweaking it and I was like then I I had like a complete ego trip and I was like this is the best thing ever.
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And then so [clears throat] I was like clearly this is like a very polarizing thing and I just I liked it and also just like it tells my story completely.
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>> It's really clever in that regard.
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You know it it's you know I'm a spy man.
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I study this It's like where you come from, what it means, the imagery, the idea.
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It's a very quick narrative pull. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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And I I I was like this this needs to be on the album and it needs to be the first track.
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Like that was the only way that I was able to see it.
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And then it was the first single obviously and I was just like this just tells you who I am because it's not serious.
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>> But it was like literally >> kind of is though.
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I mean the KGB is a pretty serious image and you're kind of with some pretty it's this is not the stuff of like you know like this isn't like comedy spy movie stuff [laughter] like you say the KGB. It's like it does exist.
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>> No, the KGB is very serious. >> It's very real. >> Let me rephrase.
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The KGB is very serious and I do not with those guys.
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Um, but it's unserious to use it in the sense that I am and and obviously it's affected my country and where I'm from like Slovakia and my people heavily.
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And so I was just like >> this is just kind of like laugh through the pain type thing and just man like I'm going use it for my benefit.
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Can a from Slovakia just use this for her benefit for once?
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>> And so I was like this is you know >> it's just kind of a tongue and cheek thing to say but also like the verses are completely true.
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They're just like stupid.
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Like they're like I was like eight doing the night shift.
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>> Can we talk about that fact >> to learn English?
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[laughter] >> Can we talk about that fact?
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It's not it's not if you really if you like music the first time you heard that song.
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You're not skipping that statement. >> No.
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>> And the way you say it is like no one says that >> because it rhymes. >> No. No.
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[laughter] >> You know, you say it because you want people to know it's true. >> It is. It's the truth.
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I was I was like eight working the night shift to learn English. It's It's correct.
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>> Where are you working the night shift at 8 years old? >> Um YouTube. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sorry to mention it here. >> Fine. We're all on the tubes. Okay.
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>> Don't worry [laughter] about it's all good. >> Is that fine? I was >> Spotify. Amazon. YouTube. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Streaming. Streaming. Spend your money.
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It's a distribution of choice. Go get it. It's all good. >> Um Apple Music.
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[laughter] >> That's what's up right there. >> It's fine. We all know they exist.
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We just all know who's best.
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I love your soundboard, man. This is my dream.
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>> You don't get to play with that. Sorry.
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>> I didn't I wasn't going to ask. >> It's fine.
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[laughter] Just letting you know there are rules for this >> I I I would assume so.
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If I had a sound sound, this guy would also have rules.
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>> You can have one on stage though.
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You that you get a little box and every time you do something good or you say something dope, just like if you just be like, you [laughter] know, just bomb yourself.
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>> Just be like, man, truth bomb yourself just because.
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[laughter] >> You should do that.
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>> My own biggest hype, man.
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Um, how hard was it as well at that age at 8 years old?
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Um, you know, you were you were open and able to absorb things very very quickly.
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I mean, your brain is going 1,000 miles an hour, so new skills to some degree on a cerebral level should come fast.
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But how was that time for you and what really motivated you to want to learn English?
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Because I understand that it's a part of the, you know, the global experience if you want to go and achieve things in your life is to learn languages.
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But at 8 years old to be that dedicated, what was moving you?
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>> So, I loved Hannah Montana growing up and it was all dubbed over in Czech.
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So, I thought it was some girl from the Czech Republic, right?
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>> And I thought that I would be able to do that one day.
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I thought everybody was like kind of in a neighboring country and >> it's available to me. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And then my older brother was like, "Nope."
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Like everything that you love is American. Everybody's American.
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All the music that you love.
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And it's so strange cuz the songs are not translated. Yeah.
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>> So, but to me it was just like music language. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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[laughter] >> I was I was like, "You got the limo out front." Like I was singing it.
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I think we can all understand that now, especially in the wake of what's been happening in Korea, what's been happening with Bad Bunny in the Latin American music market. We get it now.
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It's like Bad Bunny is now the biggest, most successful artist on the planet, at least in my opinion. That's right.
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>> And hasn't done one song in English.
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>> And he shouldn't like it's it's interesting.
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Everything is so English, America centered.
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I mean, I'm I guess kind of a hypocrite cuz I could do it in a different language, but I choose not to.
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But it's also like the language that a lot of people speak.
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I mean, Slovak is spoken by like five million people, so it would be really limiting myself.
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But anyways, I was just like, whoa, need to be Hannah Montana one day.
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How are we going to do this?
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And so, I got to cooking.
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I had a little list, a plan written, and I was like, okay, I need to learn English.
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If I can be American, I can sound like an American.
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And then when I'm 15, I'm going to go to the Disney Channel headquarters.
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I'm going to go with my godfather who lives in Hawaii. He's not going to mind.
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We're going to go for pilot season. I looked up the address.
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I like [laughter] wrote it down. >> Oh my god.
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>> I was like, we're going to go when I'm 15 and I'm going to audition. I'm going to get it.
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>> Wait, how old are you?
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How old are you when you wrote this list?
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>> I was like, I mean, whenever I could write.
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[laughter] So that was like what, seven, eight? I was probably eight. I was like eight.
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>> So you're studying what pilot season is at 8 years old. >> Yeah. It's so strange.
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Like why the do you know that? But then um I did.
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And so then I it was obviously really embarrassing like I was self-aware enough to not say these things out loud because I would just get bullied by my brother.
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Like I would get annihilated. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> And also your kids your own age don't want to know you're figuring it out. >> Hell no. It's so weird. >> Yeah.
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>> It's like what are you doing?
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So then I was just like okay let me keep let me grind in silence.
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And then I just watched YouTube a lot and I would watch like interviews of my favorite singers.
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So that was like Miley Cyrus and like Ariana Grande and like Beyonce.
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I would watch these people on um whatever the equivalent of the Zayn Lo show at that time was >> the Zane Low Show.
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But thanks for listening. I appreciate it. I was on the BB. That's fine. >> Were you actually?
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>> Yeah, I [laughter] know. >> I'm just kidding.
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>> I'm just digging my hole deeper and deeper, man.
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Never going to get invited back.
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>> Buddy, I'll give you >> Sorry.
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I only listen to Apple music. I told you.
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>> Buddy, I'll give you the spade.
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I love the I love the deep.
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The deeper the hole, the better.
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That's where That's where [laughter] the jokes are. Are you kidding?
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That's our love language in New Zealand. Don't worry about it.
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>> You didn't really touch Slovakia. I have to tell you. >> Okay, fine.
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I wasn't big in Slovakia. There's truth in that. [laughter] >> Sorry. >> There's truth.
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I mean, no, the truth hurts. I get it.
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It wasn't a big market for me.
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>> You were just dreaming the whole thing up and doing the work simultaneously, which is the key, right?
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When you visualize and you know it's there and then you're like, but it requires actual action. >> Yeah. It was weird.
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And then nobody knew and it took like a year.
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I think I was like nine and I could just speak fluent English.
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>> How did you reveal that to your parents and to the people in your life?
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>> We were um on vacation one day and I I was so so shy as a kid and my older brother was like, "Can you ask for your Coke yourself? Like please just do it." And I was like, "Okay."
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And I just spoke like fluent English in front of my family and they're like, >> "Who are you?" >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> What happened?
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So they're like that's but they they it wasn't like harmful.
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They were like this is just really strange and I guess she's like she has her special little interests but like it was really strange.
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They're like how did you do that?
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I was like I just like watched the internet and like >> there's moments on this album that are very deep and thoughtful and you've really found an emotional lane that goes with >> um you know the teeth stuff we were talking about before. >> Yeah, I agree. I think it's important. I'm I'm a girl. I get sad.
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Yeah, >> I get, you know, happy. I I want to have sex.
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I don't want to have sex. >> I I want to love. I I get heartbroken.
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It's like it's all in a day's work.
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>> There's one piece of music on the record, I won't say what name it is, but um it really is just a stream of consciousness through an autotune. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> And I And when I heard it for the first time, I said to the mutual friend that we have who you worked with on the record, Shouts to Blake.
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>> Shout out to Blake Slack.
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Yeah, I love I love you too, Blake.
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And he played me that music the whole album. I was blown away.
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And um and I got to that song and I was like, >> that is a really powerful statement at this point in your life. >> Thank you.
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>> Cuz the words are so real, but also the way that you made it sound modern and interesting and creative and not just a po, not just a statement or a stream of consciousness.
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>> Yeah, it's super weird and eccentric and brilliant. >> Thank you.
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I I felt that it was needed.
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I think there's a lot of moments on this record that are, you know, the on the likeier side as we were saying and and I am that and I have a lot of fun and I laugh a lot and I'm sexy a lot and yada yada yada.
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But I you know there's a lot of sadness in me honestly. Yeah.
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Um, and it's a there's a lot of things that I feel like I kind of navigating this career have like not expected to like hit me as hard as they are.
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>> Being away from family, I think, is a big one for you, right? >> Yeah.
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Being away from my family.
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I I have a little sister.
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>> Oh, that's heartbreaking.
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When you have a a kid involved and you have to leave them for like prolonged periods of time, it's you see the passing of time so much more.
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>> You sum that up beautifully on this record at one point where you talk about like I don't even know if she's going to look at me the same way anymore or look at me like that that influence and that friend that I was to her. >> Yeah.
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And and honestly, she like probably doesn't and >> and kind of in a way shouldn't like you got to find your own identity at some point, right?
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It is a fact of life, but it still hurts. >> Yeah, it hurts.
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I wish I could be at 100 different places at once.
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But I hope that um through my independence and through achieving my dreams on my own terms, I um give her [clears throat] something different but still valuable. You know what I mean?
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>> There's a lot of things that drive ambition, especially in the world of the arts and in music.
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A lot of reasons why you want to do it. Yeah.
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is one of those reasons because ultimately you want to try to create a better life for the people that you love the most. >> Absolutely. Absolutely.
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I love my family, but I love my mom and my sister.
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I I I've always valued women in my life and I' I've felt the closest to women in my life.
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And I really want to, you know, one day take care of them and move them out here with me and have a nice life.
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But the financials are not there yet.
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[laughter] >> Yeah, >> we'll get there soon. Hopefully.
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if y'all stream this album. >> Yeah, >> man. Please. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> But like I mean >> again I don't worry.
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You should We shouldn't worry about Adella. >> Yeah, I agree.
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I'm not worried which is awesome.
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>> Um because I do think it's going to come.
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But yeah, there's like real life stuff that I I feel all the time and I don't necessarily talk about it much because it's not like it's easy like to write a pop song about that.
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But that's why I think this track like therapy is the track on the other one that talks about that >> is important because I think people need to see that I'm a human.
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You know, I miss my family. I miss my little sister.
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I had to go away and um and I'm I'm fortunate enough that I had the opportunity to go away and make my dreams come true.
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>> How did you get that opportunity?
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What was the moment when you knew that you could do that?
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Um, I always I always thought I would and frankly I mean it was just when I got into the show like um Pop Star Academy, the show that I was on when I got scouted and there was like hundreds and thousands of submissions, but I was one of them and I thought I had zero chance because I was from Slovakia.
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And a big part of those competitions is like you choose the people that are going to bring you the biggest market. Yeah.
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>> Which Slovakia is not the biggest market. >> Yeah.
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>> So I mean that was that was the confirmation.
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I hope that I would get to do it somehow >> some way, >> but there wasn't any clear path.
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How did you navigate that experience of competing with people your own age that ultimately you can empathize with because you're all there to try to achieve your dreams and your goals, but you know that it's all going to come down >> to a small group of people who are going to make that group.
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And >> I always think like >> for all the entertainment value of these types of shows, >> it's Hunger Games, man.
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It's like how do you tell somebody that age that they should be competing at that level with a smile on their face and then going away to try to beat someone?
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It's just it's an odd paradox, don't you think? >> Yeah.
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I think what's interesting, and this has been a theme in my life, even in ballet, is like everybody assumes that the girls and like the peers would have the the worst kind of interactions and the biggest competition.
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But I found that there's like girls, especially young girls, we really held together and we and we had each other's backs.
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And that's something that honestly is the biggest takeaway for me is how emotionally intelligent young women are.
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>> Um, contrary to how we are often portrayed, but even in the show, I think we were portrayed differently than how things actually went down. >> Yeah.
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for, you know, entertainment value. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> I think the thing that I've I've um taken away from that is that >> and on the opposite side of the spectrum, how the actual like people in power are the ones that just with you.
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They just up and they actually have nothing figured out and you're just there to um experience the blow of that of those decisions or lack thereof.
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>> I don't even know how they get a seat at this table. >> Yeah.
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[snorts] >> There's this table that these and I'm just going to say these men >> all around and I don't even know how they get this who decides like, "Hey, there's a seat for you now." >> But you know what?
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Half the time I'm like, I'm not even sure you actually even understand what's going on.
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>> No, but then sometimes I think they don't understand and they really do, which is also weird.
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And then that with you too cuz you're like, >> man, do I know anything about anything? Probably not.
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So, but the the honestly the worst part to me is nowadays like >> there were women that had a seat at the table and there are >> and I feel like I didn't see enough of like protection and um kind of understanding.
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I mean, if I I hope the bigger I get, I I hope to take care of artists and and women especially in the entertainment industry.
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I mean, like, look at Olivia Rodrigo and Daisy Chainfield.
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>> Can we just do that, please?
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>> Like, >> can we just do that on every single level, right down to making sure there's no clashes in the schedule so everyone gets an audience? I mean, >> God, so good.
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the most thoughtful person right now in front of an audience making art in my opinion.
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Not to create hierarchy around that, but I say that to inspire others to be that thoughtful because she is seeing every opportunity as a chance to do the right thing.
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>> I agree and I I've been saying this for a long time.
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She's she's my goat and I think she's just a young legend.
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Um she's actually a big reason of why I'm even here cuz >> why?
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Weirdly, before Driver's List and Stephen came out, there was an L article with Olivia and she mentioned her voice teacher, um, Jennifer Dustman, >> and I looked her up cuz I was like, Olivia sounds amazing.
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And I looked her up and she was cheaper than the voice teacher that I was taking lessons from at the time.
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And so I reached out to her.
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I started taking Zoom lessons with her in Slovakia and she was following Inner Scope.
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And then they posted the audition for the show that I was on and she was like, "You should audition for this."
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So I'm like, "I don't know if Olivia Rodrigo never put out driver's license.
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I don't know if I would be here."
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[snorts] >> Which is so weird.
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And I've told her this, too.
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And we like bonded over this weird butterfly effect thing.
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>> But the butterfly effect is so beautiful. I live for this stuff. >> Yeah.
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And I'm just such a fan, man, cuz this is all I like.
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If you're a woman, if you're anybody and you have such amazing success, I mean, she didn't have to put on this festival that's like charity and and she's not making money off this.
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>> You took your time making this record.
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I know that because I was touching base with people who are working on a particular Blake and he was like, you know, >> we're taking our time. We're getting it right. >> Yeah.
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>> So, how how was that keeping how did you keep a balance as someone who was probably in a real hurry to release a record?
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At least part of your psychology is like, "Oh, I've been waiting my whole life to do this." >> Absolutely.
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>> But you're taking a time to get it right is an interesting kind of conflict. >> Yeah.
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I at the start of making this record, I had a moment where I kind of was freaking out a little bit, not going to lie, and I was like, "This needs to come out sooner rather than later."
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And it was supposed to come out, honestly, way sooner than it is now.
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But um Blake and Dylan Brady, they like sat me down and they're like, "You cannot be doing what people want you to do.
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That's like [snorts] the thing that makes you unique.
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That's the one thing that we love about you and people love about you is like you need to do what feels right for you."
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And that's such a simple concept.
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And everybody tells you to do that until they're put in a position where there's pressure on them and they feel that there's eyes on them and there's opportunities that they need to seize.
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>> The first thing that goes away when that happens.
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It's the first thing you forget is like, wait a minute, I actually need to honor my own >> Yeah.
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>> thing >> and your own your own your gut.
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>> And like everybody always tells you trust your gut.
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And you're like, okay, shut up.
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I'm going to do obviously I'm going to trust my gut.
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But you need to trust your gut in like the tiniest little decisions.
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Every little inkling of a feeling that you have, you need to honor it.
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>> Which is so crazy cuz it's like to have that level of confidence and and belief in yourself, especially being a artist starting out is hard.
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But I I I I think I'm still learning it.
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But I'm understanding that that's just the only way to do it.
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Because also like if I make something that I'm just like somebody wants this somewhere and I know that they see me like this and they're going to like this but I don't like it.
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>> Nowadays [snorts] you don't get guaranteed success for a record.
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It's like people need to actually like it kind of like >> people need to actually know it exists >> before we even get a everyone's going to like something.
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If we could actually just put your music in front of an audience that might be even remotely open to it based on their taste >> and it actually worked and social media actually did what they promised in the beginning which was work for the people who work for them. >> Exactly.
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>> They don't they they open the door and let you find an audience and now they're like, "Well, we control your audience, not you."
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So you can't even find the people that like your anymore.
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>> No, it's it's really wild.
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>> It's a totally dysfunctional relationship.
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>> The social media of it all. It's so funny.
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Obviously, it's like Well, but also music is like way more democratized now, right?
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I mean, if it wasn't for the internet, I'm not going to sit here and just on it cuz I would never be here if it wasn't for social media.
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>> No, but two things can be right.
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>> But yeah, it's it gets it gets tricky. It's fickle.
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And so to me, I'm like, "Okay, well, there's no guarantee that anybody's actually going to even hear this or like it.
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So, the only thing that I can do is like it myself, cuz that's >> What do you like? Yeah, it's that's it.
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Cuz otherwise I'm going to want to just kill myself if I'm putting out songs that I don't even like and then >> no one is listening to cuz they're not being fed them.
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>> It's like, okay, well then now what?
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>> This is a cycle of violence right here.
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This is not going [laughter] anywhere. >> This is bad.
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>> This is just bad and worse and worse.
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>> Bad [laughter] or bad.
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So it's like, >> so I just need to make something that I at least with and then hope and pray and you know, cross my fingers that someone's going to hear it.
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And >> so where does work play into this then for people who are listening listening and watching this right now who are also in the hope and pray space of their life, >> right?
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>> But but we all know that there is like an undeniable part of this equation which is the work you put in. >> Yeah.
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[snorts] >> How does that roll into this kind of great unknown era that we're in?
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Because to to my point before, there are more unknowns in terms of can I actually find an audience than there ever was before for anyone releasing any having the courage to release anything. >> I don't know. Like it's fickle, man.
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And I'm not going to sit here and act like hard work equals success. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Because it doesn't.
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There needs to be so many things at play.
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I mean, I was even privileged enough. Yes.
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I'm from Slovakia, but I was privileged enough to for my family to just support me and my dreams.
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I never had to work three jobs and do music and ballet on the side when I had time. >> Yeah.
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>> Like arts are not accessible and it's >> that's right.
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They're not to everybody.
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>> Not they're not at all.
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And it's really frustrating and it's unfortunate at the same time.
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I guess social media is able to sometimes work well in cases like that, >> but what do you do if it hits and you're not ready for it and you don't have the work ethic and you haven't got the framework or the architecture or the dream or any of that and you get something and then it's just like, wait a minute, I don't actually know what to do with this. >> Yeah.
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It's it's so strange to really truly like succeed and and >> find an audience and fans and build a thing today. It's a mystery to me.
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I mean, I'm doing it for the first time and I'm just like, what the is going on?
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[laughter] >> You know what's cool about the way this is working for you now as well is because you came out on the first few songs and you the performance level was so high in terms of like shows and videos and and imaging was the imagery was so strong and striking >> that you presented a really clear vision out the gate.
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But what's really been really fun in the last I would honestly say really just few weeks or months >> is that you're like all right now I get to just be myself and actually let people hear what I'm like as a person. >> Yeah.
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>> And like you are a really really interesting person to talk with.
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Like >> we're supposed to be well off the air by now >> and thanks to you and your team who have been really cool about this and the artists who we've pushed back. [laughter] >> Sorry. No, we appreciate it.
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I mean, you know, no, I'm not sorry at all.
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But it's like you you obviously realized maybe did you come to the conclusion it's like, okay, it's time for me to reveal myself cuz I didn't feel like you were doing too much of that in the beginning.
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>> No, I think I also I mean the first thing that I put out was a reaction to the way that I was presented to people that wasn't in my control, which is through this show that, >> you know, I wasn't in charge of the editing and making it as real as I could have been.
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So, I think it was all about the specific thing in my life.
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And now with this album, I think I get to be a human and I get to talk about the things that aren't that.
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Um, which means, you know, talking about my family like we talked about and >> talking about my love life and yada yada yada, whatever the [laughter] >> But it's like there's a spectrum.
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Like I wanted this album to feel like a conversation between me and my girlfriends cuz it's so funny.
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Like you can start the night by just like talking about so much deep stuff like me missing my family and like being an immigrant yada yada yada again. >> Yeah.
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>> And then you end it with like broke the gas.
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[laughter] >> And that's the duality of a woman.
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[laughter] So that's on the album, too.
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>> And I I [laughter] do think Bro Dick is the best dick is going on the board.
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>> That's amaz I mean it's it's I've had it.
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[laughter] >> I would never lie.
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>> I want to say I I've met a few times now a couple of your besties and I and I can only imagine the kind of conversations you guys are having cuz they are real ones.
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>> It's they're real ones. We did this Trust me.
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We were traumatized as by the internet.
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Like, >> yeah, >> we were just a bunch of teenage girls. Like, we are wild. Come on.
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>> It's been such a joy, man.
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I, you know, that is like an outright smash life-changing hit record. >> I hope so. >> It should be. >> I would love that.
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>> She's going to love it. >> I think she is.
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She was like, "Is it is it nice?"
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I'm like, >> "It's very nice."
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>> You think I would ever write something not nice about you, Nicole Kenman?
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You're going to be smashing pints of Fosters down at like, you know, Bondi Beach at some point. Bondai Beach. Bondi Beach, mate. >> Bondi Beach. >> Adella.
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Um, we don't worry about you. >> Yay. Thank you guys.
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>> You are like such a brilliant, brilliant artist and such a fantastic pop star of the times. Thank you.
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you know, and I just want to say as as we say goodbye that like it should be it should be noted as well that um you may not know what to do with the with with the hard work, but you really put it in and this this has not landed for you and been given to you and you have studied this game and you know what moves the needle and you know how to reach people.
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You've just done it your way and I just want to say that you're about to go on this incredible lifelong journey and have amazing experiences, but that really is the tenant that people should always remember through the success.
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So, if anyone decides to get on those comments and start to say whatever they want to say, just remember that there's levels to this I'll save this and listen to this before I go to sleep.
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>> There's levels to this >> You've known that since you were 8 years old.
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>> And uh and man, life is waiting for you. >> Hey. Yeah.