brian angus guys good to see you guys my gosh this is strange circumstances but it would have been even stranger if we weren't doing this at all and for one point i thought maybe that may never happen again so the fact we're even getting a chance to sit down and talk about new ac dc is such a joy
gentlemen such a joy thank you thank you thank you for coming through and delivering once again um on an amazing record last time we saw the two of you hanging out with your friends it was rock or bust and i guess you guys chose rock in the end and not bust well said yeah that's right i want to talk a
little about what life is like when you're not actively in ac dc i.e touring or making records i mean i see angus behind you you got a couple of marshall stacks there yeah but do you sort of try to keep remnants or um reminders of the band at bay at home or or do you
lean into the legacy of the band even in your own lifestyle i'm lucky in the sense when i when i'm not doing anything you know i've got a good kind of switch i can kind of switch off to what i'm doing so even if i've been on even touring you know i after a couple of weeks i get a little bit uh antsy
you know i get a little bit uh you know i've got to do something now so then i just you know go in my little studio and start doing a little bit of work when it's time to pick the guitar up and lean into something are you thinking about ac dc or are you just playing for the love of playing and
it naturally just comes out yeah i if i just pick up a guitar at home i might doodle for a little bit a few minutes yeah just do a few warm up my hands and fingers and try something off the wall other times i might just sit and experiment a little bit try something different pick up another instrument
and start you know banging a drum or picking up a bass yeah and then i'll you know i usually get you know bored after a while doing that and i get okay i'll start now concentrating on putting together a few song ideas once i start getting one idea together that kicks me off to the next one
because i go okay i've got to get better and build off that i wondered how many riffs and how many ideas you sort of kick around before you land that one that you know is up to the standard of the band you know that that's going to hold it down with all the other great riffs and great songs that you've worked on with
the band and with your brother in the past i'd get very excited with new doing new something new and going well it sounds it's ac dc but it's you know it's got a a little bit of a different angle on it so that's always for me the big puzzle finding something that's easy dc but it has it it's something you've not
heard ac dc done before so you try to look for new ways of doing riffs and you experiment a little bit with those but then when you get something you go like that's definitely ac dc and you know that you've cracked a puzzle there and that gives you a little bit of excitement a little bit of a rush
and then i go okay you've done that now on to the next thing and then find another song idea that you can go right i've got to now you know get better than what i what what i did with the one before so it's a constant puzzle you know when you when you have perfection at the beginning
and brian you must unders you must understand this more than anybody when you when you invent rock and roll perfection which is what is widely considered to be ac dc's equation which is like put these things into into a chemistry and it is what rock and roll should sound like boom yeah done from day one
i don't know i just don't know how you you know how you approach that from a reinvention point of view because it's just like it's like the perfect meal from the day you cooked it yeah well that's a good way of putting a pizza on but you know the thing is i always look at myself as being a really lucky
you know when we go into the studio angus and of course and malcolm and the old days you know used to bring in these tunes that for a vocalist singer we're just meeting potatoes i mean if you didn't do it right it just it didn't sound right at all you know so the thing is uh as i've said before when i go in
there i'm first of all i'm very excited because i'm the first person in the world who's gonna sing this song and you're the biggest ac dc fan in the world at that time right so you get to go in there and beat that guy i'm the astronaut sitting on the first rocket of the moon you know
in my mind the thing i have to do to myself you know well sorry i think i have to think is that uh i've got to try to get it exactly the way that angus has heard it in his brim gina can i tell you i got a little letter today from a little kid anger got to tell you in argentina it's called ivan he was 15 and
he sent a letter and it just said he just seen the thing he's very excited and all that and he ended the letter and he said for me ac dc are the most powerful and strong band in the world and i just sat and i looked and i said you know what we must be doing something right for this kid to figure that out
and i think that's what aang and mao brought to to the terrible of rock and roll uh in the world was this power and strength but also this swing if it doesn't swing it doesn't mean a thing oh it's there's so much groove yeah there's so much analysis that has gone into ac dc just through the fact
that on the surface it seems like such a simple concoction the idea of a finite amount of players playing something really in unison with each other everybody is in lockstep in unison but that in itself is such a masterful approach because it's all about unity a lot of times when people make music it's
about counterpoints and about the way that things fit or don't fit with acdc it's like it was just born to move as one like one human being moving and everyone plays a different limb do you know what i mean and it's there's something magical about what you've created
even when you're doing that creation that that's the thing that you go for most is uh and i learned this from malcolm my brother also uh the big guide and we were very lucky is when we were younger is my older brother george who produced a lot of our early album he always said to take something complex
like music it's a bit like a building you've got to have those simple you know basic elements then you can build off that he said the real art is making the complex simple so that's that's how we always approached it you know he said with a lot of music there's a a thing of trying making it too
complex where they they use they over produce they throw everything in but the kitchen sink to to it to a song and he used to say with a band like us there's just the two guitars the bass and the drums and and the vocal on top he said you know you've got to keep it uh pretty tight and basic to get to get that song
idea across which is true if you're reading a book your imagination takes over when you're reading a good book you envisioned that book in your mind's eye and and it's the same but i think with a lot of music you can play a chord or two and it's knowing when not to overdo it and let the
audience they can feel they kind of fill in the spaces oh there's so much for the audience to connect to i mean even if you've ever seen an ac dc show and you realize that so much of the tempo revolves in between that kind of 108 or 110 to 120 125 which is just that perfect
tempo to move to so that's why everyone just without even realizing everyone's just doing this thing and it's like it's so laid out for us in the most beautiful way to just connect and and to have our experience with it brian will tell you and when you're playing live also you know the audience is your there's
five of us but they're the sixth member yeah and we always go on we don't say to an audience come on you're with us we we get out and we just play and we go we let them come into it well i would say yes with the exception of depending on how long your intro is which depending on what tour you did can anywhere
between be between 10 minutes and five minutes just for the intro and then i would say that yeah you invite everybody in but you grab us and drag us into the field with without any doubt i mean those intros are unbelievable you must laugh sometimes when you see some of the ideas presented to
you because it's just like a it's like a michael bay film or something it's some of them are just unbelievable brian will tell you this also sometimes with an audience they're so excited before you come on and i used to say now we're going to go on and spoil it [Laughter] because they're already they're already
having a party they're having a party they're loving it yeah and i mean and sometimes when you would get on and we would start up and you know you got a big sound system you know it's pumping it pumping out what the band does but sometimes you you couldn't hear them for the raw
that's what happens when you write classic after classic after classic it's been an incredible ride and um let's just not take this moment for granted yeah because i would say there are very few bands that can see off danger and tragedy and challenges the way that ac dc can and yet with
the tragic passing of malcolm with what phil was going through brian what you went through and ultimately what cliff decided to do i have to be honest i thought i don't even think ac dc can survive this i genuinely felt that and and i and i really took my cap to you for seeing the tour through and maybe we
could talk a bit about axel later because he deserves a little moment because he really stepped up and i watched footage of that i didn't have to get to any of those remaining shows but i saw footage he really stepped up and poured his heart and soul into it but i just didn't think that you would come
back from this and so my question angus is did you not really no because for me it was a big question mark malcolm my brother was always really practical that's always how i knew him i remember even from uh when we were younger he would say to me you got any good ideas or something for stage or
something and i would say oh well what about we try maybe try this and he would go right and any idea he would make it practical that was always for me his gift yeah i mean even first starting out yeah i mean you know i think we have to go do a a few gigs outside where we were living you know and we
needed uh transport malcolm we go come on me and you we go down a used car place to get a car it was an old bomb it was lucky it was riven roadworthy you know it was like buying something from fair deal dan you know and uh we got this old little truck just so we could do those gigs so
he that was how his mind worked he was the doer he was the doer he was the one who made it he made it possible practical yeah and even if i had some little riff i had going he would break it down and we can make this into a good rock intro so he he was the one that could sink a song
through you know and break it down to the parts you know where where the you know he he always said you know that's what we got to do keep it keep it tight keep it simple you know there's nothing worse than you know when people are tapping their foot you want to get them to keep tapping you don't want to
yeah that's called groove that's right so that was his whole whole thing yeah when we had bon scott you know our original thing in the end he passed very tragically it it was malcolm after a couple of weeks called me up and said uh you know there's no point in this at all it's just moping all the time
let's just go and go on get a little studio and uh the two of us will go there and we'll just do what we were doing before just writing songs and don't think of anything and then hopefully you can deal with the crisis of it you know get through it and that was good kind of therapy for us because it took
our minds away and we can concentrate on what what we were doing well it sounds like he had the ability to be able to to to make you understand that when something seemed too vast whether it was a riff or a journey to a gig that you had to take one step in front of the other
in order to get to the end of that particular thing and when that advice and that friendship and that relationship as a brother and as a mentor and as someone who's really close to you um is no longer there how do you respond to that because that that has been malcolm's role as he said for decades you know
i talked to him here in my head i'm deal you know i have to go through him and then i've got my my other brother and i i have this convict conversation going on with the with the three of them and then i rely on what they taught me and also from my old uh brother george he he had taught in his early like in he
got us very young took us in studios uh that is even uh when i was in my teens uh play on records with him doing the guidance so you would you understood how a record was made and he did the same with malcolm he had he used malcolm a lot on doing sessions it gave us you know a a good insight
like especially on a studio side at a young age so all of that experience that helped us i always felt really lucky and and malcolm was always generous anything he did you know like when we were younger i had i just had an acoustic guitar from my early age you know malcolm had uh uh electric guitar which
was he got off my brother and he was using that then he gave me that guitar and then later on he came into me said and i didn't ask her and then he said i've got you an amp he'd gone out and got me an amp he was always good at that side he'd a big big heart to towards me yeah
and even later on because he used to always say uh you know where he'd come visit me and he'd go uh angus you need some microphones he's come back the next time with a bag of microphones yeah or you would go i'll get you some better speakers he would come back he was always doing stuff like that he
sounds like an amazing brother first and foremost you know before anything else yeah we had our differences at times you know and we were too you know we were two brothers we could we could beat the crap out of each other at times too but i couldn't fault him in his generosity yeah and his time his time also because
he was always so very um quick with ideas anything in a studio um playing songs i mean malcolm knew songs i i didn't know existed you know when we were kids we were we were once playing at a a a wedding and you know somebody said can you play zorba degree can malcolm yeah yeah sure no i'm going what no
malcolm [Laughter] i'm just following him i'm like a bar behind going what's he doing yeah you've dedicated this album to him yes and rightfully so and so his spirit clearly still permeates through this now you were very clear that there was no playing um to some degree that directly related to him because and
i love the way that you said this you were worried about manipulating his parts because i guess to some degree he did also a very good job of establishing his own taste profile his own his own design of what he would have wanted and you wanted to expect that is that right yeah i didn't want to uh
pick pieces together and i know the technology's there but i didn't want to do that he would not have liked that yeah even when we were doing a track that somebody said uh and malcolm thought i know we could do better he didn't let it go until he thought all the parts were there even if it meant
redoing you know the whole guitar work on a track or anything whatever it took and whatever it took and he was always proud of his own performance and i've got what are you playing there malcolm yeah and he go i'd simply blah blah blah and i go when i'm doing it's just not the same
it's what you're doing and he's going no you've got it you you've got it you're playing you know but i would always be in let me get that right yeah and he would always be very patient and go well it's this no matter how long it took for it to go in my head yeah and i used to say oh i always feel a
little bit one you know one or two steps behind him and malcolm would go no angus he goes when you got it he said it might take you those two steps but when it's in it ain't leaving your your brain so he was always good like that amazing you know absolutely incredible and as you said you know the engine
i mean for the longest time when he played just so rock solid so you're in a situation where you said this beautifully before where you still make decisions based on what you've learned from your brothers and from this amazing tutelage that you got but you didn't have a singer for a while
not just a singer the singer the singer that the only other person who can even dance in that range with that power is axel and the only one who can even get close to brian is willing to step in and have a crack to help you finish so yeah there's there's no one who can replace brian
that must have been a real moment for you brian as well to be in a situation where this thing as you say being the world's biggest ac dc fan that there was a time when this album power up wasn't an option oh yes you know well things happen you know and when this thing happened to me it was sudden well it was building up
you know we knew i knew it was getting worse and worse and then it suddenly came to the point where it had to stop and when i was told to stop and uh and it's horrible and it's cruel and it's uh and you're certainly by yourself you're by yourself yeah your family yeah you know your
family's gone but at the same time i had to be realistic about it i said listen this isn't anything terminal you know uh i've still got my health and um i've i've been very lucky to have got this far in life you know i think i was 68 years old at the time which is which is quite an edge
you know and and i looked around the world and a lot of people from friends of mine had passed you know in that very week that it happened it made me best friend passed away with cancer at the age of 59 you know and that that was like a double blow and and it was all pretty rotten um and
you know i just thought i'd man up and just have to go through it was painful and horrible but it's you know as i've said before i just buried my head and a bottle of whiskey for a couple of months and i did and it was painless and i didn't take drugs by i'll go and see a psychiatrist or you know do all
that rock and roll what you're supposed to do you know no you did scottish therapy yeah you know i just i just i did it was and it was good you just manned up and then you know through all of that and i'm just like you and angus and did you think anything was gonna happen well of course i didn't i
thought that was it and then really it was only about 18 months after that you know and i was just kind of still missing and wondering what to do next uh if anything because i'm like angus i gotta do something you know i'm just a kind of guy and i got the call from angus and the office
management and things and asking if i would like to do an album and of course i just i don't know surely this couldn't be another great chance in life to do what you love doing and it certainly was and that's why i'm so appreciative of the lads and everybody to just give you a chance to get in there
and you know sure you can try your stuff out in the studio but brian in your mind because i know that when you go through significant hearing damage and i have a bit of mild hearing damage from loud music throughout the years and such so i know that when it gets to that point you have
to really try to take care of it but there are other ways that you can work around it and i know that you were going through treatment in your mind though brian when you left that tour when you had to walk away did it feel like you might not get a call like that because singing on an album is very different to doing 200
shows around the world were you concerned about that yes but technologies are wonderful things then and i've got to tell you it was just lucky you know when this wonderful gentleman he came up and was looking for me and he was an audio a professor and he wanted to try this new technology
and he said listen we could do it together if i can come down and visit you and uh i didn't know i thought it may have been all smoke and mirrors you know somebody signing on but it was the actual genuine article and he did fly down all the way from denver colorado and we sat there for two days
and i just couldn't believe the results but unfortunately it was the size of a car battery right so we spent the next two years basically miniaturizing which is the hard thing and anywhere yeah it worked well and when it would done the album and we shot a video in amsterdam you know anger said do you
want to do a rehearsal because i didn't want to go through what i went through again and so angus i said yeah i just put the whole back line up you know i was saying well we're going to start quietly and we said no no i want full battlefield conditions and little stephen kim with us and uh we'll put it
in in the ears and we were expected at least i don't know maybe two days of screwing around but boy you're a boy it worked straight away oh i can't even imagine that would have been an incredible feeling an incredible experience it's funny isn't it you know so many
people go through life and they get told for injury or for lots of different reasons you can no longer play your chosen sport you can no longer do the thing that you spent your childhood dreaming of doing but it's very rare you get a chance to come back and you get a chance to do it again
i don't have the words i really don't have the words to tell you how i felt but i know happy was one of them it was it was i bet i bet but also not just you i mean you talk about second chances but angus it can't be lost on you the importance especially when you hear this new album just
how incredible it is to hear brian singing at full capacity again and to know that that that was able to happen thanks to technology and friendship yeah it was an easy thing you know because i've we've worked with brian all those years from when you know bond there's a long time yeah it's over 40
something years so i know with my brother with malcolm because all of these songs that are on power up the album these are all ideas that me and him had worked on malcolm's knew that that's how he knew the band i would have to do that anyhow i would need to contact brian first you know i knew brian had
we'd been kept updated that he'd been getting good results with that we you know working with that technology and uh so if everything seemed to come together everyone and cliff even cliff wanted to be on board because clifford always said even at the end of the tour i had said
to him if i do anything do you want me to contact you and he said yeah no definitely contact it you know so what did you take from that again this whole i mean this rock or bus tour must have been beyond challenging because all these things are happening at the same time and then to the credit of yourself
and to the band you saw this tour through most wouldn't have you saw it through prior to the end of it when cliff said this is going to be it for me it's almost a mixed message him to turn around and say but give me a call at the end of it because you would think that for him to go through that
that heartache for him to make a disconnection that he would need to make a clean break and go the rest of my life is now dedicated to something else what did you take from that when he sort of said to you no no give me a call give me a call but i knew cliff at the beginning from the very beginning even when we started
to get ready to go and talk cliff had said this would be his last talk we knew that uh when all of this come up and brian was in you know really bad shape he couldn't do his role me and cliff had to sit and go okay we got to deal with the you know the options what we're going to
do to do these dates anyhow we had to inform people we wouldn't be able to do them and you have to tell people the truth we had a whole group with over you know 60 something 70 people uh working there with us all waiting on an answer so oh and it's way more complicated than that what people don't realize is this
significant amount of insurance issues and legalities it's it's intense we could have uh just stopped and said we'll cancel and hopefully we'll get another chance but we knew there would still be even a lot of insurance and uh legality there or we can look at other options maybe you know and somebody said well
maybe we could get somebody who might guest we might have some some people who you could try out who might be able to do the role get you through so we had to look at those options and then out of the blue we got a message you know that axel axelrose would help you know if nothing
interfered with his commitments he would gladly help us out so uh we got a rehearse place and tried out and you know he put a lot of effort in everything oh he was on his best behavior i think wasn't he i mean if you've ever been to a garden roses show i mean the fact that he showed up on
time means he must have a huge amount of respect for ac dc because he's not known for being the most punctual on his own time i'll say that yeah well i'd only met him a long time ago in the 80s he had come to a show and he was to me he was very very nice and everything basically that's how it came in to be
that allow us to to finish off those days so you know for us it was a heaven sent you know it was like a little bit like a life saver and you know even though he had he had done his uh foot in you know before he started he he borrowed a chair he was he was determined he was gonna go
so i thought you know the first show we had to do i think was in portugal and i mean it was a horrible day it was raining and everything was open here it was anything that could go wrong yeah everything was going wrong and then just at the last minute the sky cleared the storm went away you know we got on on stage and got
through he performed from the chair gave it his best shot and we got through so that you know uh for the band you know i mean you know i will be forever grateful and he you know helped us get through all of those shows it must have been a really strange situation for you angus to be on
stage and having like we've said been through a lot but you're looking to your left yeah and there's stevie and you're like okay i kind of i kind of get that and the spirit of malcolm is alive and moving through the dna and the and the lineage i love that but over here cliff he's out and where's phil and then
there's axel and there must be just moments when you thought wow like uh how are we even gonna get through this time i mean i know you're determined and i know the band is incredible but crazy i don't know maybe it's because you go well it just needs that big bell to fall on
top of your head or something yeah and is that how it is one of those cannons go off and takes you with it you know so if anything was going to go wrong yeah and you can go well hey they tried yeah if you try people respect it you try yeah you know i've seen it with bry and i saw it with bon scott also
you know the best performances they ever did is when their throat was shot when they could hardly talk well you go somewhere deeper as well you go somewhere deeper and you and you and it becomes about your spirit not about your talent and it becomes about what you mean versus what you want that's right
and that's the the audiences you know they they appreciate you more that you've gone and you've tried i think you know people appreciate it and they go i know i know the guy's not in full hundred percent but he's really up there giving the best he can do it's sad at the moment because we're
missing live music in the biggest way and ac dc have consistently been one of the most in demand hard tickets on the planet this album is so built as all ac dc records are to be played live i mean code red itself would be worth the price of admission which is all my favorites by the way but i think
looking at the way the band is built now with cliff part of the reason he didn't want to stay in the band was he didn't want a tour and brian obviously needed to take care of his health with his hearing which live music can be a hazard for granted you can't even cross that bridge right now but as and when things get
back to normal what's the general feeling about the band about playing live and touring in particular brian yeah well you know when we finished the rehearsal we were all pretty high uh on how it had all gone you know we just talked about doing a few shows you know that and and
let's see and you know take a baby steps like language central like malcolm would always say you know just take a step at a time and let's see how it works and all that and then three days later three shows for you are still 300 000 people it's like we'll just do like three four shows yeah we'll do three four shows
well well i didn't know we're taunting big ones or small ones you know just a few not the big ones now i think we're talking about doing some smaller ones you know just for a bit of fun but even that we couldn't even plan to make plans three days later the world went home and this virus by the time we got home it
had just traveled so quickly and it affected everybody and it just yeah now look at us at six months later seven months later longer time is losing track we would love nothing more than to just gotta i'd love to hear the boys power up on live you know just that first few things
and just gone and gone let me add them it begs the question that this album i know that you had kind of recorded before as you say you were ready to kind of roll it out i know because i got chance to hear some stuff before we all went into quarantine and i was like let's go so i know you've
been patiently waiting to get this record out now given that it can take upwards of six years for an ac dc record and every one of them is well worth the wait i suppose the question is why put it out now and why not see what 2021 was going to look like and feel like what prompted the decision to put power
up out now well we depended mainly on you know what you know yeah record company which was uh they were the ones given the advice and they said we can do it now because originally yeah we had geared up for it as brian said you know it was going to come out early we had done all promo
yeah video and stuff for it uh and uh you know and as he said we were even planning maybe if we maybe do some shows if you know if it worked we were geared up to go earlier but you know the virus thing uh you know kicked in big time and so it was a case of uh leaving it up to them when they thought they had the clearance
the web you know and putting you know into you know the production you know getting cds and whatnot if they had all the tools to do that and they and they said we should be able to do at at this point we were depending on them if they and and that's what i said well if you believe you can do it
we'll do our best to help you uh uh promote it yeah i mean look i mean the record is so it's such a welcome thing um but you're right it is it's strange to not then have a cross on a calendar with acdc you should that's right live at the forum or live at the rose bowl next to
it you know for me in l.a it's just a strange thing you'll get a few hours anyhow of a useless if you hear it i think the way to tell the world world hit a misery level a limit of misery with this thing and just said right time to cheer it up and you've done that something positive is something powerful and it is like it
is a it is a a brilliantly classic sounding ac dc record but with new things to it angus i wondered from your perspective what were some of the new things we talked to the beginning of the conversation the desire for subtle reinvention in order to make sure each ac dc record is a refresh
and we've seen that over and over again what was new about this time for you well a lot of them is the songs themselves even when malcolm we put these ideas these i mean they're not like b songs or anything these are songs that we had marked out as ac dc songs these ideas came from the
when we were just before we did the album black eyes we had a quite a big break and me and him had been in the studio for a long time for a lot of years just writing songs so a lot of these were song ideas even when we went to do black ice we had so much material it was a case of when brendan o'brien
who produced it and produced this album also you know we were going to the you know the beginning you know he start from here disc one you know and he's like he's going through and he's liking all from all the early shopping we got we got a whole you know boxes of a whole heap of other songs how
many i mean but how many are we talking about here i mean if you and malcolm are just in the studio during downtime because i think if my timeline is correct rewinding back about 40 50 minutes into the conversation you said it takes you two weeks off the road and then you pick up the guitar and you
start writing again so that leaves a huge amount of time to write so how many ideas and songs are we talking about here angus yeah well i start writing and then i didn't know you know what was gonna happen and i thought now's the time to go through all what we had done but are we talking
hundreds are we talking dozens we talking thousands like how many songs i would say yeah there's hundreds of of them wow i mean not just even from that time even from from before i've got hulk songs malcolm j wrote in here in my head that i can go in i pick up the guitar and i can put them
together in their songs they're that strong so a lot of what he does wow i always loved doing his ideas and he liked doing my no we do yours yours are always so solid [Laughter] i would go okay mal i know you like that idea of mine now tell me what tell me what you like about it so i've got the idea
yeah but i love this idea that you know of the two of you the way it's being described just the chemistry between you and malcolm for now not including george or the rest of the band yeah that you would look to your brother with such a sense of like assurance and as you said practicality and yet it was
you that got put out in front along with brian to just charge into battle and yet it strikes me like you were the one that's like is the song good enough malcolm you know and yet you're the one that's out front and it always it's such a it's such an interesting balance isn't it between
insecurity and confidence no matter who we work with like even produce the one i always went to even when we i work with my older brother george and whenever i was there and doing guitar solos or any guitar pieces and my brother would go yes it's happening sounds great but the one i always relied on
was malcolm if malcolm went yeah that made it for me even like when we worked with mutt lang also it was uh the same you know mutt would go hey this is you know that's good that's happening but i would i go mal if mal said yay i knew it was good or if mal even told him he would go to
martingale now angus can do better can brendan fill in that role to some degree now as a producer because he's worked with you on three of your most sort of powerful sounding modern records does he have that same ability to to to get past your own sense of of of concern yeah i'll tell him you know because i'll tell him
in malcolm's words i'll say you know because i'll be there saying you know i i need the extra ear i have to you know yeah i have to look and i was thinking okay would mal get this what i'm doing here now and then to be brendan and he would try and you know do that role and say
well yeah you know we'll try this or we'll try that so i'm using a bit of that but then i also have put have to put on my brother's head and go would he want that there would he want this here and malcolm had a lot of great things vocal even with vocal ideas and and he knew i mean if i whenever i would do
a vocal i tend to go rhythmic very rhythmic i'm i'm not really if i do a like a chorus idea i kind of do it my own rough style i kind of just go for the meter of that malcolm you know he would always say no we got to get the spread yeah and he would work on it and make it really clear yeah because otherwise when i get
to it it was like a highway to hell or something like that be like oh where the hell you know but now can we go now we've got to stretch it out a little bit here hank he would put the you know the polish on it this album is just i have to say as we've as we've talked about power up
and you've shared some of the process that you've been using in order to achieve this yeah it makes me realize even more after i heard it for the first time what an incredible milestone this is and you're not short on them you know you've been through some real real ups and some real love
only to get back up again and this has been a a life's a life's journey and this album in many respects must feel like a very important one because what a shame if rock or bust had been the last ac dc record and it had been health and it had been addiction and it had been all these other things that had beaten ac dc
and not and you had lost the ability to call time yourself that would have been a tragedy that's right and then that's the other thing to you know you can't call an album rock or bust and then go bust you know and i would have to live with that and go a bust you know well listen long may ac dc reign
no one has done it better no one has has created has brought groove and music and power into rock and roll and the reason why we still love your music and why you still are so adored is because every ingredient is perfect thank you thank you i appreciate thank you thank you so much yes you