Full Episode: https://youtu.be/4l3Sa8ImGFQ Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/sarah-paine-china Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4JH4tybY1zX6e5hjCwU6gF Twitter: https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp From Episode 3 of my lecture series with Sarah Paine! Enjoy!
Full Episode: https://youtu.be/4l3Sa8ImGFQ Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/sarah-paine-china Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4JH4tybY1zX6e5hjCwU6gF Twitter: https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp From Episode 3 of my lecture series with Sarah Paine! Enjoy!
Jeffrey Wasserstrom is a historian of modern China. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep466-sb See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *Transcript:* https://lexfridman.com/jeffrey-wasserstrom-transcript *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Jeffrey Wasserstrom's Books: China in the 21st Century: https://amzn.to/3GnayXT Vigil: Hong Kong on the Brink: https://amzn.to/4jmxWmT Oxford History of Modern China: https://amzn.to/3RAJ9nI The Milk Tea Alliance: https://amzn.to/42DLapH *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Oracle:* Cloud infrastructure. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/oracle-ep466-sb *Tax Network USA:* Full-service tax firm. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/tax_network_usa-ep466-sb *Shopify:* Sell stuff online. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep466-sb *LMNT:* Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep466-sb *AG1:* All-in-one daily nutrition drink. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/ag1-ep466-sb *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:16 - Xi Jinping and Mao Zedong 3:45 - Confucius 11:15 - Education 19:21 - Tiananmen Square 30:36 - Tank Man 40:36 - Censorship 1:16:33 - Xi Jinping 1:34:41 - Donald Trump 1:38:34 - Trade war 1:51:23 - Taiwan 2:01:36 - Protests in Hong Kong 2:33:55 - Mao Zedong 2:55:36 - Future of China *PODCAST LINKS:* - Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast - Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 - RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ - Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips *SOCIAL LINKS:* - X: https://x.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman - TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman - Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman - Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman
Jeffrey Wasserstrom is a historian of modern China. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep466-sb See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *Transcript:* https://lexfridman.com/jeffrey-wasserstrom-transcript *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Jeffrey Wasserstrom's Books: China in the 21st Century: https://amzn.to/3GnayXT Vigil: Hong Kong on the Brink: https://amzn.to/4jmxWmT Oxford History of Modern China: https://amzn.to/3RAJ9nI The Milk Tea Alliance: https://amzn.to/42DLapH *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Oracle:* Cloud infrastructure. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/oracle-ep466-sb *Tax Network USA:* Full-service tax firm. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/tax_network_usa-ep466-sb *Shopify:* Sell stuff online. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep466-sb *LMNT:* Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep466-sb *AG1:* All-in-one daily nutrition drink. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/ag1-ep466-sb *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:16 - Xi Jinping and Mao Zedong 3:45 - Confucius 11:15 - Education 19:21 - Tiananmen Square 30:36 - Tank Man 40:36 - Censorship 1:16:33 - Xi Jinping 1:34:41 - Donald Trump 1:38:34 - Trade war 1:51:23 - Taiwan 2:01:36 - Protests in Hong Kong 2:33:55 - Mao Zedong 2:55:36 - Future of China *PODCAST LINKS:* - Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast - Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 - RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ - Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips *SOCIAL LINKS:* - X: https://x.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman - TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman - Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman - Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman
In this episode, Prof Paine looks at Maoist China. How did Mao go from military genius to peacetime disaster? How did the patriotic hero inflict history’s worst catastrophe on China? How can someone shrewd enough to win a civil war outnumbered 5 to 1 make decisions like "let's have peasants make iron in their backyards" and "let's kill all the birds"? Lecture is followed by a Q&A with me. The first nationwide famine in Chinese history; Mao's lasting influence on other insurgencies; broken promises to Chinese minorities and the peasantry; what Taiwan means. Huge thanks to Substack for hosting this! 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 * Transcript: https://www.dwarkesh.com/sarah-paine-china * Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3APeQ3L * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381 𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒 * Today’s episode is brought to you by Scale AI. Scale partners with the U.S. government to fuel America’s AI advantage through their data foundry. Scale recently introduced Defense Llama, Scale's latest solution available for military personnel. With Defense Llama, military personnel can harness the power of AI to plan military or intelligence operations and understand adversary vulnerabilities. If you’re interested in learning more on how Scale powers frontier AI capabilities, go to https://scale.com/dwarkesh. To sponsor a future episode, visit https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/advertise 𝐒𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐇'𝐒 𝐁𝐎𝐎𝐊𝐒 * "The Wars for Asia, 1911–1949" https://www.amazon.com/Wars-Asia-1911-1949-S-Paine-ebook/dp/B0096R1NZ4 * "The Japanese Empire: Grand Strategy from the Meiji Restoration to the Pacific War" https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Empire-Strategy-Restoration-Pacific/dp/1107676169 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:47 - Disclaimer 00:03:13 - Clausewitz, Sun Tzu, Thayer Mahan, Corbett 00:09:31 - The 1911 Revolution and the Civil War 00:14:27 - Clausewitz on Mao 00:15:47 - Mao the propagandist 00:24:35 - Mao the social scientist 00:29:51 - Mao the military leader 00:40:17 - Mao the feminist 00:49:34 - Mao the grand strategist 00:58:12 - Yin and Yang analysis 01:02:14 - Q&A begins 01:05:16 - Why was Mao worse than Stalin? 01:11:42 - Yalta satisfied no-one 01:14:50 - Corrupt allies, ideologue enemies 01:16:29 - US indifference to the Nationalists 01:25:35 - Imagining a Nationalist mainland 01:28:21 - Communists cling to power 01:32:02 - Xi and Mao 01:38:13 - Making victims victimize themselves 01:42:15 - Journalists' naivete 01:46:16 - Visiting China then and now
In this episode, Prof Paine looks at Maoist China. How did Mao go from military genius to peacetime disaster? How did the patriotic hero inflict history’s worst catastrophe on China? How can someone shrewd enough to win a civil war outnumbered 5 to 1 make decisions like "let's have peasants make iron in their backyards" and "let's kill all the birds"? Lecture is followed by a Q&A with me. The first nationwide famine in Chinese history; Mao's lasting influence on other insurgencies; broken promises to Chinese minorities and the peasantry; what Taiwan means. Huge thanks to Substack for hosting this! 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 * Transcript: https://www.dwarkesh.com/sarah-paine-china * Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3APeQ3L * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381 𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒 * Today’s episode is brought to you by Scale AI. Scale partners with the U.S. government to fuel America’s AI advantage through their data foundry. Scale recently introduced Defense Llama, Scale's latest solution available for military personnel. With Defense Llama, military personnel can harness the power of AI to plan military or intelligence operations and understand adversary vulnerabilities. If you’re interested in learning more on how Scale powers frontier AI capabilities, go to https://scale.com/dwarkesh. To sponsor a future episode, visit https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/advertise 𝐒𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐇'𝐒 𝐁𝐎𝐎𝐊𝐒 * "The Wars for Asia, 1911–1949" https://www.amazon.com/Wars-Asia-1911-1949-S-Paine-ebook/dp/B0096R1NZ4 * "The Japanese Empire: Grand Strategy from the Meiji Restoration to the Pacific War" https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Empire-Strategy-Restoration-Pacific/dp/1107676169 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:47 - Disclaimer 00:03:13 - Clausewitz, Sun Tzu, Thayer Mahan, Corbett 00:09:31 - The 1911 Revolution and the Civil War 00:14:27 - Clausewitz on Mao 00:15:47 - Mao the propagandist 00:24:35 - Mao the social scientist 00:29:51 - Mao the military leader 00:40:17 - Mao the feminist 00:49:34 - Mao the grand strategist 00:58:12 - Yin and Yang analysis 01:02:14 - Q&A begins 01:05:16 - Why was Mao worse than Stalin? 01:11:42 - Yalta satisfied no-one 01:14:50 - Corrupt allies, ideologue enemies 01:16:29 - US indifference to the Nationalists 01:25:35 - Imagining a Nationalist mainland 01:28:21 - Communists cling to power 01:32:02 - Xi and Mao 01:38:13 - Making victims victimize themselves 01:42:15 - Journalists' naivete 01:46:16 - Visiting China then and now
How the rivalry between China and India reshaped Asia forever. I’m thrilled to launch a trilogy of episodes: a lecture series by Professor Sarah Paine of the Naval War College, each followed by a deep Q&A. In this first episode, Prof Paine talks about key decisions by Khrushchev, Mao, Nehru, Bhutto, & Lyndon Johnson that shaped the whole dynamic of South Asia today. This is followed by a Q&A with me. Come for the spy bases, shoestring nukes, and insight about how great power politics impacts every region. Huge thanks to Substack for hosting this! 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 * Transcript: https://open.substack.com/pub/dwarkesh/p/sarah-paine-india * Apple Podcasts: http://apple.co/3RFuS7b * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6beCTbPFOXKXNYPAsU7vQa 𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒 * Today’s episode is brought to you by Scale AI. Scale partners with the U.S. government to fuel America’s AI advantage through their data foundry. The Air Force, Army, Defense Innovation Unit, and Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Office all trust Scale to equip their teams with AI-ready data and the technology to build powerful applications. Scale recently introduced Defense Llama, Scale's latest solution available for military personnel. With Defense Llama, military personnel can harness the power of AI to plan military or intelligence operations and understand adversary vulnerabilities. If you’re interested in learning more on how Scale powers frontier AI capabilities, go to https://scale.com/dwarkesh To sponsor future episodes, go to: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/advertise 𝐒𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐇'𝐒 𝐁𝐎𝐎𝐊𝐒 * "The Wars for Asia, 1911–1949" https://www.amazon.com/Wars-Asia-1911-1949-S-Paine/dp/1107697476 * "The Japanese Empire: Grand Strategy from the Meiji Restoration to the Pacific War" https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Empire-Strategy-Restoration-Pacific/dp/1107676169 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒 00:00:00 - Lecture intro 00:02:43 - Mao at war, 1949-51 00:06:12 - Pactomania and Sino-Soviet conflicts 00:15:14 - The Sino-Indian War 00:20:32 - Soviet peace in India-Pakistan 00:22:32 - US Aid and Alliances 00:26:46 - The difference with WWII 00:30:41 - The geopolitical map in 1904 00:35:42 - The US alienates Indira Gandhi 00:43:30 - Instruments of US power 00:54:13 - Carrier battle groups 01:03:13 - Q&A begins 01:05:03 - The appeal of the USSR 01:10:08 - The last communist premier 01:16:14 - India and China’s lost opportunity 01:32:51 - Soviet proxies in foreign politics 01:58:36 - Bismark’s cunning 02:03:37 - Training US officers 02:07:35 - Cruelty in Russian history
Full Episode: https://youtu.be/4l3Sa8ImGFQ Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/sarah-paine-china Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4JH4tybY1zX6e5hjCwU6gF Twitter: https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp From Episode 3 of my lecture series with Sarah Paine! Enjoy!
Full Episode: https://youtu.be/4l3Sa8ImGFQ Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/sarah-paine-china Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4JH4tybY1zX6e5hjCwU6gF Twitter: https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp From Episode 3 of my lecture series with Sarah Paine! Enjoy!